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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
Tdjwo
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I understand how hax works and that's not my point. My point is, we already have a solid feat for Kin>Toneri. And the narratives also implies the same. Talking about Toneri's hax is entirely useless at this point unless we are going to disregard what the show implies.
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No, he's not....
Tdjwo
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Which of Toneri's ability is as fast as Kinshiki?
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Nu uh, you need to prove that he's faster first. And after that, prove why he's so much faster that Toneri would not be able to compete with him at all, despite his sensory abilities.
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he doesnt need to be, he can literally just make a TSB shield around him
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"It's said that Kaguya was fearful of Kinshiki, she wouldn't be fearful if she could just erase him. Thus, he should be resistant against her haxes"But my headcanon I mean the narrative says Kinshiki resists all of Toneri’s hax
Tdjwo
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Keeping up with Adult Sasuke is more than enough to make him faster than Toneri and all his abilities. Also. Not once did I say Kin is "so much faster" than Toneri.
I know.Tdjwo did you know that vaguely faster characters can still be tagged by slightly slower characters
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Clearing the ******* discrepancies that has stemed up in Tdjwo
While you seem to be all around Kinshiki **** because of his presumed "superior AP". Yeah, I agree with this, pretty sure everyone else does but it doesn't warrant any one shot advantage like you're milking it to be.
Simply put it Kinshiki scales to a Shit drained Sasuke who had been teleporting all day and still reserving enough chakra to head back to Konoha. NE Sasuke>Weakend sasuke>/=Kinshiki~Kaguya>Hamura>/=Toneri. Yes superior but not that far off.
Whilst not being that far off Toneri can still keep up, although inferior. To add to it Toneri can Incapacitate Kinshiki with the TSO, Weaken him via targeting his tenketsu or Just keep in enough range to barrage him with attacks.
Tbh I see more shot at Toneri wining this
While you seem to be all around Kinshiki **** because of his presumed "superior AP". Yeah, I agree with this, pretty sure everyone else does but it doesn't warrant any one shot advantage like you're milking it to be.
Simply put it Kinshiki scales to a Shit drained Sasuke who had been teleporting all day and still reserving enough chakra to head back to Konoha. NE Sasuke>Weakend sasuke>/=Kinshiki~Kaguya>Hamura>/=Toneri. Yes superior but not that far off.
Whilst not being that far off Toneri can still keep up, although inferior. To add to it Toneri can Incapacitate Kinshiki with the TSO, Weaken him via targeting his tenketsu or Just keep in enough range to barrage him with attacks.
Tbh I see more shot at Toneri wining this
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No, it isn't.
Then......Toneri would be able to keep up with and tag him with his hax, especially when aided by his sensory capabilities.
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Nuh Uh!
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if you want to argue an actual qualitative scaling measure for Kinshiki then rather say
Kinshiki = raiton enhanced Sasuke Speed>Base> The Last Naruto. (being a little charitable given we have no idea how big the speed gap is between a fatigued Sasuke and Naruto)
but even then this doesnt change anything, because the gap isnt speed blitz worthy and like... massive AOE, TSB and sensory abilities means that having a speed advantage isnt enough to combat all of toneri's abilities
Kinshiki = raiton enhanced Sasuke Speed>Base> The Last Naruto. (being a little charitable given we have no idea how big the speed gap is between a fatigued Sasuke and Naruto)
but even then this doesnt change anything, because the gap isnt speed blitz worthy and like... massive AOE, TSB and sensory abilities means that having a speed advantage isnt enough to combat all of toneri's abilities
Tdjwo
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Womp womp.
Never said it would be a oneshot.
Prove he's been teleporting "all day".
Yes, he wasn't at 100% but he still had considerable amount of reserves to use amenotejikara more than once. He's no different in stamina when he fought Jigen in that dimension. And your scaling chain only proves Kinshiki is far more superior. You know the gap between Kaguya and Toneri isn't just tiny right?
Toneri cant use gentle fist.
Prove Toneri's TSO is fast enough to tag Kinshiki.
Toneri can't run away from him lmfao. Kinshiki can also fly. And he's faster.
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he doesnt need to tag him, he can just place TSB like fucken everywhere including around himself and wait for Kinshiki just to fly into them
Tdjwo
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That's the Sasuke I've been using tho.
Really? So that Sasuke can't blitz TL Nard?
Kaguya has all these above Isshiki yet Isshiki could kick her to death if he wanted to.
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This fandom needs to one day realize that not every scaling gap in the series results in a speed-blitz or a one-shot. In fact, they very rarely do.
Everyone within a certain "tier" is usually pretty close overall. Ya'll need actual evidence to substantiate a large gap in speed or power. Ya'll's baseless assumptions don't mean squat.
And don't even get me started on the Kaguya vs MomoKin stuff.....
Let's just say, there's definitely more than one interpretation for that stuff.
Everyone within a certain "tier" is usually pretty close overall. Ya'll need actual evidence to substantiate a large gap in speed or power. Ya'll's baseless assumptions don't mean squat.
And don't even get me started on the Kaguya vs MomoKin stuff.....
Let's just say, there's definitely more than one interpretation for that stuff.
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based on what?
because unlike kinshiki and toneri we actually have direct showings of what happens between characters of those levels interacting with one another.
also Ishikki has hax to counter kaguya's that kinshiki does not
Tdjwo
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Isshiki could literally kick Kaguya till she dies. He doesn't need his shrinking hax.
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Actually, no he can't. There's this nice, awfully convenient thing, called Immortality.
Tdjwo
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Cuz he's supposed to be equal to adult nard who would definitely blitzhis last version.
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Based on what
Tdjwo
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Isshiki can kick Kaguya's head off her neck.
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so?
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Cool, still not gonna kill her.
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T0neri is washing Kinshiki, ngl
Thing is with Shippuden is that the gap between God Tiers and Kage Tiers was very clear, A4 isn't going to the f*cking moon to fight with Toneri, he'd get folded in an instant
In Boruto you have f*cking Darui chasing Momoshiki around talkin bout some "we're gonna beat your ass unconscious" to a "God" that terrified Kaguya
Thing is with Shippuden is that the gap between God Tiers and Kage Tiers was very clear, A4 isn't going to the f*cking moon to fight with Toneri, he'd get folded in an instant
In Boruto you have f*cking Darui chasing Momoshiki around talkin bout some "we're gonna beat your ass unconscious" to a "God" that terrified Kaguya
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sEz dA nArAtIb! yA gIt!Based on what
Tdjwo
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You do realize this entire argument stems from this ridiculous misconception of the gokage vs MomoKin.T0neri is washing Kinshiki, ngl
Thing is with Shippuden is that the gap between God Tiers and Kage Tiers was very clear, A4 isn't going to the f*cking moon to fight with Toneri, he'd get folded in an instant
In Boruto you have f*cking Darui chasing Momoshiki around talkin bout some "we're gonna beat your ass unconscious" to a "God" that terrified Kaguya
Tdjwo
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Kaguya can't regen her head can she?
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yall all crying about the gokage, just wait until Konohamaru slams down a Jigen level fighter later this year
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With the power creep lately, maybe.
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im just waiting for cho cho to get her Jigen scaling so we can then apply the 100x amp
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I dont wanna sound like a broken record, cuz you've already been told this, but instead of arguing here on something you don't even agree with in the first place, you should save your efforts on making an actual, detailed CRT.
And trust me, NONE of us think the Kage scaling to MomoKin ACTUALLY makes sense or is good writing. It's garbage. But it is what it is. Not much we can do about it.
And trust me, NONE of us think the Kage scaling to MomoKin ACTUALLY makes sense or is good writing. It's garbage. But it is what it is. Not much we can do about it.
