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prob not, the amount of content is barely enough for a cour, so unless they add original stuff then i doubt it, they will adapt Omnipotence first anyway.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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the code arc which contained 12 chapters was adapted into 7 episodes and that arc has far more yapping than TBV, TBV has far more action which means the amount of content to adapt per episode will be less as adapting action is much quicker.
chapter 15 is a logical end point but unless they expand on the manga significantly or have anime original stuff then i find it unlikely, its also likely that by the time omnipotence is adapted the amount of chapters for TBV is enough that they can find another natural end point for the cour.
the kawaki arc which stretched from chapter 24 to 55 was adapted into about 33 episodes, which may suggest roughly 1 chapter per episode, but that arc in the anime also heavily added new original content, both as an expansion to the manga and sometimes entirely original stuff, if you remove all original content youll like get on average something like 2 chapters per episode , which wouldnt even be a enough for two cours and thats with double the source material to work with.
chapter 15 is a logical end point but unless they expand on the manga significantly or have anime original stuff then i find it unlikely, its also likely that by the time omnipotence is adapted the amount of chapters for TBV is enough that they can find another natural end point for the cour.
the kawaki arc which stretched from chapter 24 to 55 was adapted into about 33 episodes, which may suggest roughly 1 chapter per episode, but that arc in the anime also heavily added new original content, both as an expansion to the manga and sometimes entirely original stuff, if you remove all original content youll like get on average something like 2 chapters per episode , which wouldnt even be a enough for two cours and thats with double the source material to work with.
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I think the idea is TBV S1 also covering the Omnipotence Arc
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OA isn’t even in TBV
honestly i think it’ll be dope if OA gets adapted as a movie or 2 movies sequel to each other. It’ll create the perfect tone for TBV just like the manga did
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it will but it def wont be in the same cour
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they wouldnt work well as movies at all, most of the manga to movie adaptions tend to be for arcs that are more self contained or very much action focused, Omnipotence is neither, not only is 80% of the arc literally spend inside rooms with exposition, it also introduces plot threads and characters that wont go anywhere, and unless the movie is really long or cuts out a ton of content, your going to get a very unfaithful adaption, and the main reason why we get these kinds of movies anyway is because they very profitable for the license holder and studio but they also require significantly longer pre production and costs, and i dont believe a two parter anime film that will mostly be yapping will perform all that well, i think that time would be better spend on just adapting OA as a cour or a collection of episodes.
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I kinda see where you’re coming from, but OA can work as a film if streamlined properly, with key exposition condensed and unresolved threads building intrigue for sequels. skilled direction can make "yappingg" engaging, as dialogue driven stories succeed when done well.
preferably, i love movies with good and in-depth screen play rather than back to back action.
Not to add, we’ve got some exhilarating moments that would make up for less action;
- Omnipotence activation
- Naruto sealing
- The prophecy
- Daemon vs Code
- Sarada’s awakening
- Jubi spawns creation
- Boruto vs Kawaki
- Boruto’s rogue path
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the issue isnt a matter of execution its a matter of marketability and whether or not its worth the resources, there are plenty of films that are well written with amazing animation and directing that dont do well, and this is for an audience that doesnt have any expectations, let alone something like boruto where the market for the films would be people looking to get spectacle , a lot of the "exhilarating" moments come from knowledge fans would have prior or with future events in mind not your average person who would be buying a ticket who makes up the bulk of revenue.
also while you can polish the moment to moment writing, that doesnt change the fact that the arc is not self contained and the larger screenplay will suffer for this, themes, characterization ect will take a hit because it will be taking the approach that many marvel movies do where the connective tissue that makes a narrative engaging is sacrificed at the alter for future setups.
the opening of the arc alone acts as resolution for code/eida and daemon coming off of the previous arc, you would have a resolution at the start of your film followed by setup that eventually gets resolved in TV show potentially years later.
my question would then be to what benefit is there in making it a movie?
+ better pacing?, not really, anything the movie could do, the anime could do equally well with the right staff
+ Better animation?, maybe but thats not a guarantee either, given 70% of something like Road to the Ninja looks like a very average shippuden episode and plenty of this
< this is from the road to the ninja movie
+ would it let us get to adapting TBV faster?, not really as the staff would be split up and movies have far longer pre production (let these guys finish up just 4 naruto episodes first lol)
+ better viewing experience? MAYBE, i personally prefer watching films over tv shows normally but thats too subjective and not everyone would feel as i do
+ would it cost them cheaper? well this isnt super binary as on a technical side there would logically be less to animate but the quality spent on each genga/background/character animation ect would be higher which would require more time and more money, this can be technically countered by producing something of tv quality with a films runtime but this would be negating one of the benefits of having a movie.
+ would it be more financially beneficial to them? , likely not, boruto does not have the cache it did in 2015, a lot of its money would have to be made via licensing overseas , which isnt impossible and i think would be the main reason for getting a movie.
also while you can polish the moment to moment writing, that doesnt change the fact that the arc is not self contained and the larger screenplay will suffer for this, themes, characterization ect will take a hit because it will be taking the approach that many marvel movies do where the connective tissue that makes a narrative engaging is sacrificed at the alter for future setups.
the opening of the arc alone acts as resolution for code/eida and daemon coming off of the previous arc, you would have a resolution at the start of your film followed by setup that eventually gets resolved in TV show potentially years later.
my question would then be to what benefit is there in making it a movie?
+ better pacing?, not really, anything the movie could do, the anime could do equally well with the right staff
+ Better animation?, maybe but thats not a guarantee either, given 70% of something like Road to the Ninja looks like a very average shippuden episode and plenty of this
+ would it let us get to adapting TBV faster?, not really as the staff would be split up and movies have far longer pre production (let these guys finish up just 4 naruto episodes first lol)
+ better viewing experience? MAYBE, i personally prefer watching films over tv shows normally but thats too subjective and not everyone would feel as i do
+ would it cost them cheaper? well this isnt super binary as on a technical side there would logically be less to animate but the quality spent on each genga/background/character animation ect would be higher which would require more time and more money, this can be technically countered by producing something of tv quality with a films runtime but this would be negating one of the benefits of having a movie.
+ would it be more financially beneficial to them? , likely not, boruto does not have the cache it did in 2015, a lot of its money would have to be made via licensing overseas , which isnt impossible and i think would be the main reason for getting a movie.
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I agree but while marketability and resources matter, Boruto’s movie potential will hypothetically lie in its ability to generate long-term value rather than just short-term revenue. yes, some films flop even with great execution but omnipotenve arc, with its strong character moments and emotional stakes can cater to a core fanbase that drives profitability through merchandise and licensing.
while i also agree that the start up would be somewhat relied on the preceding arc but you’re assuming the movie will follow the manga’s story line at 1:1 which is never always the case. So much can be done to make up for that. claiming the arc’s lack of self containment is a flaw ignores how many successful films like marvels work well despite being part of a larger narrative lol. fans are used to interconnected stories, and resolving code/eida early isn’t an issue if the film pivots to focus on the heart of omnipotence i.e kawaki, boruto, and their fractured bond.
animation and pacing concerns also depend entirely on the team behind it. good staff can elevate a movie’s quality beyond what a tv anime could consistently deliver. financial risks are valid, but Boruto’s overseas licensing potential and the chance to reestablish hype with a film outweigh the downsides. a movie isn’t just about quick gains it’s about building the brand. RTN is bad example and is a pessimistic view on the outcome. Seriously, if the theoretical movie gets a budget relatively close to TL or BTM -which makes RTN look mediocre in comparison- then this point wont even be valid. boruto doesn’t need to aim for your refrenced appeal, its focus should be on reconnecting with its core fanbase. the argument that every moviegoer demands constant action overlooks the fact that well crafted and emotionally driven storytelling can succeed when presented well enough
idt it’ll cost them cheaper. normally a movie technically requires animating fewer minutes compared to a series, the quality expectations for films such as more polished gengas, intricate backgrounds, and fluid character movements will for sure demand more time, skilled animators, and budget. all these will inevitably drive up costs compared to the anime series. trying to cut costs by producing a movie/film with a casual anime quality defeats the purpose of making a film, as it would diminish its appeal and fail to capitalize on the elevated standards that attract both fans and casual viewers. without delivering that higher quality, the movie risks losing its core advantage as a cinematic product.
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I do wonder what the meltdown will be if the series continues its weekly route
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Kawashiki ~ Borushiki > Limited code ~ Naruto.
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a TV show's long term value supersedes a single film from an IP who's largest theatrical release will be in one of its weakest markets.
I dont
one of my initial points was that the film would not be 1:1 faithful or may be abridged
I listed Marvel specifically as an example of it being a flawed, because most most marvel movies dont work as standalone films, they often not very well put together and the ones that are tend to have a strong self contained thematic through line for its own story outside of the connections but they can still remain popular among causual demographics because they tend to offer either popular actors, large scale action set pieces and homogenized comedy thats inoffensive to most people, but doubly so this is a false equivalence , by the time marvel was succesful in creating a shared cinematic universe it had already conditioned its audience into watching its films on a regular basis, it didnt start off this way, which is why many of the phase 1's films were self contained where the connective tissue was subtle or left for post credits, the moment marvel tried to cross polinate its mediums of television and film it lost much of its audience retention
you overestimate how many fans are willing to actually go beyond their preferred medium, there are also plenty of boruto fans who have now grown up with the series and havent actually watched Naruto its parent series
this is half true, its a mixture of good staff and a good production pipeline
Boruto's license potential for a TV show is significantly higher than that for a film, this is one of the primary reasons for why companies like TV tokyo prefer weekly shows over seasonal as instead of reaching high profit margins before having to restart and rebuild hype over again over potentially a few years, weekly can often offer less luxurious highs but consistent revenue through its partnerships, most notably music or record labels.
a film isnt going to rebuild the brand anymore than a new tv show will
its not a bad example, its a good example to counter the idea that it being a film will result inherently in the best resolution
the issue with RTN wasnt based on budget but the staff and time they had to make the film
which can be replicated with a show
this is a strawman, the issue isnt that EVERY moviegoer demands action but that certain IP and genres cultivate demographics, boruto is a shonen action series aimed at young boys.
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So the Low 6-B tier is 1-7 teratons. + starts at the average of both ends. Average here is 4 teratons. So anyone who’s 4 teratons or stronger is Low 6-B+. It’s explained in detail on the AP pageZ
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I dont think you understand my question,
it says a character is allowed to enter the + tier even if I dont reach 4 teratons but be close to it as long as I overpower said near 4 TT enemies, and i wanted to know how close to the mean I need to be assuming I havent touched the mean
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If your character overpowers 4 TT enemies they’d be 4 TT themselves. But stuff like that, generally referred to as upscaling is case by case dependent. I’ve seen it vary from 1.1x away from the tier to 1.2x away from the tier, it truly depends. There is no ironclad rule. Say I’ve got a 3.5 TT character, and character B one shots them, it’s probably safe to upscale B to 4 TT at the + tier.
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The general accepted, but unwritten, consensus is between 1.01 to 1.2 X Difference.
Let's say, Character X One-Shots Character Y who scales to 3.5 Teratons. Low 6-B+ starts at 4 Teratons.
The difference between 4 and 3.5 Teratons is 1.142857142857142857 X
So if you can make a sound argument you can get said character to upscale
Let's say, Character X One-Shots Character Y who scales to 3.5 Teratons. Low 6-B+ starts at 4 Teratons.
The difference between 4 and 3.5 Teratons is 1.142857142857142857 X
So if you can make a sound argument you can get said character to upscale
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oh damn it, I wanted one to upscale with 1.652x difference, I thought if characters are allowed to upscale 2x with the + one then maybe you could enter the plus with the same
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ah rip, I'll just slap on a multiplier as a band aid,
thanks for answering
thanks for answering
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Man's feeling himself early in that video lol.
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A 1.3x difference is the maximum you can really get away with, but generally, it’s 1.2x or lower.
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understood
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That always gets me when I see people making videos on fights and saying it's some heavy topic and I be like "Says who?". I know you can find a lot of different spaces but come on.Brother, ain't nobody debating this fight
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MinatoSparkle
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Mazeltov!
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wdnc (i saw the bleach disc thread)
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Wait??? Are you for real? Or is this a joke?
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w d n c?
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for real
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your body pillow dont count lil bro
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his heart is present during the mariage
the actual ceremony and bride werent
the actual ceremony and bride werent
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ha, jokes on you, i have no body pillow
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If you want to say it that way, yes.
But to be honest, my friends didn't care much, what mattered was what was done and the emotions there were, and it wasn't the fact that we were obviously not present.
