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Just having his cells doesn't mean they scale to Hashirama's Regen
Ex. Obito dying because of heart problems
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Naruto Ability Additions
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Ex. Obito dying because of heart problems
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Tsunade has multiple feats of doing this.
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Just because they have his cells doesn't mean they have the full extent of his abilities. They can't use his strongest Mokuton techniques for example, in the case of Obito.
And again, their feats contradict with this imo.
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Tsunade has nothing to do with them though. She doesn't have Hashirama cells implants.
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And what is the correlation between Tsunade's Jutsu to the Regeneration limit shown by Hashirama Cells
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As soon as obito left the kamui dimension, Madara used BZ to take over his body which is when obito turned into the ten tails jinchuriki.
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Yes she does since madara says her healing ability is inferior to hashiramas.
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There is no contradiction with the feats as I've explained above. They can use all of his wood style techniques.
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Yes, Hashirama the original, not people with his cells.
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They have his cells, which means they have his regeneration.
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Obito can't, and Madara only can because of Kabuto's enhancements.
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Not without feats.
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Obito can use wood style as well, just because he doesn't use hashiramas specific techniques doesn't mean he can't.
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They have his cells, that's all they need.
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I never said he can't use it, I said he can't use it on the same scale as Hashirama.
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That just comes down to how much chakra you have.
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Dude, we have two actual examples of them failing to achieve the only two things that get you Low-Mid regeneration, which are healing severe organ damage (Obito failed to regenerate his heart and was going to die) and regenerating lost limbs (Madara couldn't regenerate his arm.)
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Not necessarily, no. Obito has many large scale techniques that can match Madara and even the Bijū, such as his massive Katon that matched Madara and his Fire formation that stopped Gyūki dead in his tracks and burned him. He's capable of large scale techniques, that much is clear.
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I already explained the obito example above. And Madara wanted to experience battle again, read chapter 659.
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Not really? You said he made BZ connected to him to perform Rinne rebirth, but how would that prevent him from healing his heart if he could? Also he was still visibly dying.
As for Madara, again, him wanting to experience battle and fighting recklessly (which he himself said) has nothing to do with his regeneration, and again if he could regenerate his own arm he wouldn't need to use White Zetsu's and attach it to himself.
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So Madara used BZ to keep Obito Alive and Madara didn't regenerate his arm because he wanted to experience battle again?
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He literally says he has hashiramas healing ability in the chapter I said above. And I'm fone with completely removing obitos healing ability, but madara should get the same as hashirama.
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And then attached a Zetsu arm right after....
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Hashiramas healing ability just doesnt cover healing lost limbs
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Okay, I'm fine with Low-Mid for Madara (with the caveat that he can only heal organ damage), but since Obito clearly can't do either of those things I think High-Low fits him better tbh.
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Does Obito ever actually regenerate? I can't remember him doing so.
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He healed cuts and the damage he received from the Rasengan (which wasn't a lot), and can attach Zetsu limbs to himself like Madara.
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That would just be Low regen, and attaching zetsu likbs doesnt cout as regen as far as I know.
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High-Low: The ability to regenerate severed fingers, toes, or ears, minor organ damage, and even potentially reattach lost limbs.
It doesn't specify having it to be your own limb that has to be attached so long as you are able to attach a new one and it functions normally
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I'm pretty sure attaching limbs to yourself and having them bond with your body immediately like that is High-Low.
But anyway, I can't remember any other feats for Obito tbh.
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That's an extremely weird condition for regeneration, but I guess it fits since its stated on the regen page.
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I like how we're all using "Hashirama's healing ability" as a justification, yet we don't even see it in the manga.
The closest thing we have to it is Mitoic Regen which heals stab wounds and organs
The closest thing we have to it is Mitoic Regen which heals stab wounds and organs
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Yes, Hashirama is scaling to Tsunade.
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Anyway, I'm going to edit Hashirama's profile shortly to reflect the abilities I suggested that got accepted.
There is also the matter of editing his profile to reflect the fact that he has Sage Mode in his alive key as well. How should I go about that? I'll shift the powers and abilities of Sage Mode to his Alive key, or should I give it it's own key?
Also I need Itachi, Naruto, and Madara's pages unlocked to add the other accepted abilities.
As for the Non-Physical Interaction, I'll leave that for the souls thread.
There is also the matter of editing his profile to reflect the fact that he has Sage Mode in his alive key as well. How should I go about that? I'll shift the powers and abilities of Sage Mode to his Alive key, or should I give it it's own key?
Also I need Itachi, Naruto, and Madara's pages unlocked to add the other accepted abilities.
As for the Non-Physical Interaction, I'll leave that for the souls thread.
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I think you should give it its own key but do you think we also should give him an Edo Tensei (Base) Key?
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Just give him a separate tab for his sage mode abilities
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Okay, I'll do that.
I think it'd probably be better if I merge it all like this.
"At least Mountain level+, Small Country level with Wood Release, Multi-Continent Level with Sage Mode" for both his Alive and Edo keys for now. After the AP revisions we can improve upon this by giving him physical stats for his Sage Mode and probably a completely separate key, but for now I think this works. What do you guys think?
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Just leave his AP alone and create a separate for the abilities. We can work out his keys when we do the AP revisions.
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Okay then, that makes things easier.
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Should we note that as an Edo Tensei he's weaker than when he is alive?
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