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Nanatsu no Taizai Discussion Thread 15
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Yes when he tried to save him from the cruel sun.
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With the whole thing of darkness being magic or not. I think we need a full author's statement on the matter at this point
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I wish that Zeldris had a side of him equivalent to Meliodas' emotions, as opposed to acting like an edgy manlet all the time.DemonGodMitchAubin said:It's a shame, they really got along as brothers
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There are plenty of people who care about their parents, but don't really look up to them. I don't think this is terribly far fetched
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So how did Mael negate ON again?
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The esplosive power of the grace did not just cover the surface of his body but it was also coursing within him as well. Because of this ON and God can't stop his attacks.
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So if you're insides are being powered up, then ON and God don't work on you?
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Don't know, that explanation is a bit unclear.
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Does he need the sword to use ON?
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It's likely similar to Meliodas w full counter. Zeldris could probably use a spoon if he needed toDragonEmperor23 said:
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ON is Zeldris's own technique right?
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Well yes, of curseDragonEmperor23 said:
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as for GOD... heres a better explaination So i finally understand zeldris GOD fully with all the info we have now ( ill post scams)- if you have corrections leme know.
1-It can completely seal magic (used once vs dolar)
2-It can null even the strongest magics (obv NLF)
3- Mael got pass GOD not cuz hes using his grace as an enchantment as i thought but cuz of the simple fact that hes just not using magic so theres nothing to null (could be seen as an enchantment due to his grace burning around him but thats a passive not something he can turn off)
4-Long story short any magical abilities that face zeldris will be Null
1-It can completely seal magic (used once vs dolar)
2-It can null even the strongest magics (obv NLF)
3- Mael got pass GOD not cuz hes using his grace as an enchantment as i thought but cuz of the simple fact that hes just not using magic so theres nothing to null (could be seen as an enchantment due to his grace burning around him but thats a passive not something he can turn off)
4-Long story short any magical abilities that face zeldris will be Null
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Are you sure God is what seals magic? It would've been real helpful to seal any of the people he's fighting right now.
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try renaming them
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is that Sound manipulation?
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Is someone willing to calc Mael's feat of dispersing the clouds of the True Night? Because it seems pretty impressive in every possible way. We can't see clouds in the horizon while the sky is clear and it happened in a short timeframe.
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Already tried. Sadly right now there isn't enough evidence to prove that Mael dispersed all the clouds summoned by The Original Demon so the calc made by Causality couldn't be used. Junkie tried to recalc it with the horizon stuff and something else and got some good results but than he heard the news about the cloud revision stuff and the calc results got lowered even further and became useless.
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What did the results were? I see no problem with using KE while the feat is quite clear and straightforward.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Causality/Mael's_Come_Back_-_Nanatsu_No_Taizai
This is Junkie's calc before he deleted it in the comment section after realizing the cloud revision stuff.
Cumulus clouds tpyically form at 2000 meters. Giving us a horizon distance of 160 kilometers Low-end Cumulus thickness. 600 meters. High-End 2000 meters.
Volume of a Cylinder is pi*radius^2*length
Low-End: 48254 km/3 =pi*160^2*0.6. or 4.8254e+13 m/3
High-End: 160849 km/3 = pi*160^2*2. or 1.60849e+14 m/3
Since this is both the clouds and air being moved, we use the 1.003 kg/m3 figure.
Low-End mass: 4.8398762e13 kilograms
High-End mass:1.61331547e14 Kilograms.
Now for KE. Since this is a combat situation, and Mael did a small chant before fully parting the clouds, I think 10 seconds is a good end to use.
So the clouds would've been moving at 16000 m/s.
Lw-End: 6.195041536e21 Joules or 1.48 teratons Small Country level
High-End 2.0650438016e22 Joules or 4.93 teratons. Small Country level+
This is Junkie's calc before he deleted it in the comment section after realizing the cloud revision stuff.
Cumulus clouds tpyically form at 2000 meters. Giving us a horizon distance of 160 kilometers Low-end Cumulus thickness. 600 meters. High-End 2000 meters.
Volume of a Cylinder is pi*radius^2*length
Low-End: 48254 km/3 =pi*160^2*0.6. or 4.8254e+13 m/3
High-End: 160849 km/3 = pi*160^2*2. or 1.60849e+14 m/3
Since this is both the clouds and air being moved, we use the 1.003 kg/m3 figure.
Low-End mass: 4.8398762e13 kilograms
High-End mass:1.61331547e14 Kilograms.
Now for KE. Since this is a combat situation, and Mael did a small chant before fully parting the clouds, I think 10 seconds is a good end to use.
So the clouds would've been moving at 16000 m/s.
Lw-End: 6.195041536e21 Joules or 1.48 teratons Small Country level
High-End 2.0650438016e22 Joules or 4.93 teratons. Small Country level+
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Damn... that's sad.
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It's likely similar to Meliodas w full counter. Zeldris could probably use a spoon if he needed to
deadly spoon, spoonulous nebula
deadly spoon, spoonulous nebula
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Any soilers yet?
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Not yet.
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right and he used the term "darkness power", how does that disprove its not magical attack? what is magical attack in the first place?Peter1129 said:
in the fight did meliodas any physical object to fire it??? darkness is not a physical substance to be called "physical attack" and not only that you're not articulating your point properly and now you're going in the route of "Well so he said power rather than magic so therefore its not magical attack". We see magical attacks often to be COATED by magic OR launching an attack that is NOT specifically physical object (i.e purgatory flame bird, cruel sun, greatest sun, omega hellblaze, hellblaze, Sunflower).
other than that, it supports estarossa's comments due to the fact he relied darkness to gauge HIS MAGIC and escanor's which he's making a comparison between cruel sun and his darkness shrouding it.
not only that you're doubting zeldris own statements and knowledge despite being over 200 years old and knowing most of the demon clan stuf like chrono time spell whch both him and sinner knew about it. Even though he said "Even with DKs magic i can't move my body an inch" yet another line supports where he said "Just like father said, meliodas really is..."
so what doubts his statements that darkness that he was being hit by which casued the darkness to have gravity manip, are we seriously saying he isn't known for t hat knowledge?
if you doubt it then that your burden of proof, and i had shown plenty of proof.
