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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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Curious wouldn't be heading anything she'd be in jail by virtue of Hawks and the other heroes. Her potential is just Dabi but less concrete.
Can't really disagree with Midnight. She's side character who's death mainly affects side characters.
Nagant did die by a villain's hands though or did you mean die by someone other than AFO?
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So we've confirmed a new weakness for Deku. Using too many Quirks at once (more than three it seems) strains Deku's body.
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Horikoshi’s specialty is making super interesting looking characters just because he’s very good at character designs and art in general, making people get super hyped about them, then ultimately disappoint a lot of people because his plan was only to have them as minor characters in the first place.
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This^ probably the reason why everyone and their mother on reddit or twitter thinks every side character deserves more screen time and lots of development.
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I saw someone go ape on Twitter and blocking everyone who said anything about Setsuna vs Bakugo because Setsuna, who they simp over, lost.
Horikoshi knows what he’s doing and I think he’s an excellent writer. People just wanna simp over his awesome creations a little TOO much sometimes methinks.
Horikoshi knows what he’s doing and I think he’s an excellent writer. People just wanna simp over his awesome creations a little TOO much sometimes methinks.
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Horikoshi is great, yes, but a few of his decisions as one make me grind my teeth.
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I remember all those redditors saying Kaminari, Jiro, and Ojiro deserve more screen time.
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What happened to Nagant bummed me the hell out. I just wish Horikoshi would allow some interesting side characters to actually...live.
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Considering what AtomicSekiro said, they just might be right.
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Guess I'm the only one who liked her death. It's very fitting for her character. She died as she lived: being an unwitting tool to others due to her abilities and the future she thought they'd show her
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I clenched my teeth so hard my molars shattered. Good description of how I felt.
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How? What do they add to story? What makes them deserving of more screen time? The fact that people like their designs?
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In my opinion... many of the side character deaths feel like a "just why?" moment to me. An example I can point to is Akame Ga Kill which forced character deaths just for the sake of shock value, or as a plot device. I have faith in Horikoshi, but I fear that is a route he'll head down in the future.
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Ye. I see that too.
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Even if i think Hirokoshi decision was kind of BS, being "200% Mad" isn't going help either so chill with that
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I heavily disagree with the statements and outlooks on how Horikoshi deals with death, but you guys are entitled to your opinions.
In other news, I am praying and hoping that MHA fighting game is real. Like, that would be FIRE with all the characters like Miruko, Endeavor, Hawks, awakened Shigaraki, Deku with his quirks, Re-Destro, Geten, maybe even Machia. Tons of potential in a fighting game like this.
In other news, I am praying and hoping that MHA fighting game is real. Like, that would be FIRE with all the characters like Miruko, Endeavor, Hawks, awakened Shigaraki, Deku with his quirks, Re-Destro, Geten, maybe even Machia. Tons of potential in a fighting game like this.
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(NOTE: Don't wanted to start a war here) This is why One Piece still superior about side character screen-time, also
AgK major fault was tried to be edgy which hit/miss alongside the generic anime tropes on it
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CoughOne's Justice 2Cough
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Not a bad game all things considered, despite the rep it gets for being a 3D arena fighter. An actual fighting game by ArcSys though would be NUTS.
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To be fair, One Piece is trying to accomplish a whole lot more and has a whole bigger story overall
MHA has a very fast pace by comparison
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The story One Piece is telling, which is heavy on gags, adventure, absurdity and going long as hell, is very different from the one MHA is telling. So I think it’s quite easy to just say “One Piece has better side characters and shows them more” when it’s been going for over 1000 chapters with whole arcs dedicated to side characters and islands vs MHA taking place in a single country with a revolving cast but very central focus around key characters.
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One's Justice 2 is a great arena fighter game, still janky but much better than the prequel, still not the same level as Kill la Kill IF and Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 3/4 but its still good
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Still, even if its fast paced you still need to smart enough for making the screen-time and decision for each characters
Another example on a awesome side characters screen time is One Punch Man
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I mean, he DOES do that, just not so much that Side Characters are left behind or experience some ridiculous power growth.
Look at side characters like Dabi, Shoto, Endeavor, Toga, Twice, Momo, Kirishima, Mina, Mount Lady, heck even Spinner and Mineta. There are tons of side characters that experience growth and change over the series, and I’ve yet to see ANY growth that I dislike.
I feel there’s a difference between “side character that exists in this arc only and does nothing else ever” and “consistent side characters that are learning and growing with the world alongside the main character, but in different ways.”
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That's why i said making decision, and its not just about killing your characters
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I'm more excited for the part about it being similar to DBFZ in all honesty. Though, the MHA leak community does make it sound like its a small chance in hell the rumor is actually real, but we can still hope regardless.
I'll be adding this to my list of E3 hopes now.
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I mean, he’s been VERY generous with not killing important or developed side characters. Most of the characters that have been killed were introduced in the same arc or weren’t important even among side characters. Most of them were just overhyped by fans because they liked their designs and baseline personalities and decided that they would be more integral to the plot than anyone else.
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It just goes to show how utterly sadistic All for One is. There's nothing "bullshit" about it.
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The main issue is Bandai Namco recently announced that One's Justice 2 would be getting a second wave of DLC, so we can't really say where their priorities are...
Speaking of MHA games, fun fact: that new MHA mobile game somewhat expands upon certain minor characters, like a few of the Villains that attacked the U.S.J. with Tomura all the way at the beginning.
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What were y'all expecting from a guy who's power is literally stealing other people's powers, in a world where it's a natural part of you, and having that taken is comparable to losing an organ?
Oh, and the guy who wants to be a demon like the one he saw in a book as a child once.
Oh, and the guy who wants to be a demon like the one he saw in a book as a child once.
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Exactly. Nagnant's death was perfectly within reason. I bet on all of the MHA volumes I currently own that no one in this chat could come with a legitimate explanation on how her death doesn't make sense or fit the narrative when factoring in All for One as a variable.
People don't even seem to realize that this would be a wonderful opportunity for Horikoshi to develop Deku's character, making him realize that he truly just can't save people with a few words and sympathy, not when All for One is around. This would not only make All for One even more cunning and a great villain, but this would also possibly make Deku's character even greater than it already was.
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That's true, but they could've had her in a hidden unit. Hawks doesn't get fed everything although he does spy on the majority of them so he might've found out anyway.
Point is, mass media control is one of the weapons of MLA and that was Curious's forte and she was gone. I feel like she could've worked well with Dabi more than the convenience that Skeptic did. And we know that Skeptic only survived and escaped purely as a convenient device for Dabi to do his thing, because Horikoshi forgot about him right after his thing with Dabi and had to redraw him lmao
As for Nagant, what happened to her is narratively to be expected. It's not surprising at all. But the way she went out just sucks (even if the cause of her death specifically was flashy enough to be cool), on top of her being more interesting than not just villains but literally most character in the series. If she actually does die, it'll only be justified if this actually affects Deku's and Hawks's characters but it's going to suck if all of their attention will just be directed at AFO.
Not all people who are disappointed with how other characters are handled are simps, it doesn't nullify their justified disapppointment in Horikoshi's writing sometimes. This is a tad bit bad generalization.
There's nothing we can do about it as Horikoshi wrote Setsuna's team to suck, and wrote everyone to praise Bakugo head over heels for doing the bare minimum of what a team member should do. Doesn't mean it didn't suck, because he could've easily written the 1-B team to be an effective team (because narratively, they should be) which would've made the 1-A team's victory feel earned and far better than what it actually was. Both sides would've benefitted than what it was.
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that Bakugo's team fight was easily the worse out of the JT arc. But then again that's just my opinion.
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Perhaps that is the case, but I'm still gonna call nonsense on how soon she was destroyed. She was probably one of the most interesting—and straight up awesome—villains I have ever seen in this story. I wanted her to at least exist for another 6 chapters (not in a row it would get a bit boring IMO) to build up more tension and suspense with her dynamic with Deku, Overhaul, and the other heroes/villains. I wanted to see her change as a result of dealing with said characters for long enough, seeing what All-for-One's vision truly is like, and making the choice on her own to finally help the main characters. I would not really care if she would get destroyed or would (somehow) survive.
Yet she has not even existed for like 5 chapters before literally blowing up. Horikoshi could have utilized her in a more effective, compelling, and interesting manner with both the characters and the world itself so that we would actually have more reasons to root for her development and feel like shit—for good reasons—as the rope ties around her neck and finally gets pulled by the people she believed to be better than hero society.
Yes. Nagant's death can absolutely be utilized to further support Midoriya, Hawks, and AFO's characterizations and I have little doubt that that was what Horikoshi intended to do. But the way this was handled was just not good.
I apologize for losing my cool in regards to what happened. That said, I am still going to drag Horikoshi for what I feel to be a poor writing decision.
— Also I agree with everything Metalballrun said.
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Bakugo’s fight in the JT arc was cool and very well choregraphed and earned. 1-B did well but they’re against Bakugo, someone who has ALWAYS been on top through sheer battle sense. He is battle incarnate. He was unstoppable by himself, and now he’s learned to let people save him when he isnt as effective as a team mate could be against an opponent. They were up against the strongest team with no notable weakness. Of course they got floored.
Anyway, if Nagant looked like Recovery Girl, how many people would be less butthurt over the current chapter which we still don’t even know the conclusion to?
Anyway, if Nagant looked like Recovery Girl, how many people would be less butthurt over the current chapter which we still don’t even know the conclusion to?
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Regarding what Deku does this chapter:
Did Deku actually outspeed the bullet, or did the bullet miss like Deku said and Deku pushed Overhaul out of the way after it missed?
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Let me spit some cold and hard facts to all of you; the story doesn't really care whether Nagant was a well-written character, or whether or not she was powerful. The story wants to build tension and stakes, and it has rightfully done so.
You wanna argue that the way she died was anti-climatic? Fine, I'm not stopping you. But this would also be ignoring the very cause behind her death, and honestly? That cause is extremely twisted and ****** up when you think about it. So there shouldn't be any excuses going around saying that "this was an extremely disappointing way for her to die." Correction; this was a very ****** up way to die. End of story.
Could this have been done better? Probably, but when you look back in retrospect on a lot of manga's and their chapters, many things could have been done better. This is a pointless argument to make. Her debut, as short as it was, was beautifully done on Horikoshi's part, and now it's possibly being wrapped up to further the development of the cast.
You wanna argue that the way she died was anti-climatic? Fine, I'm not stopping you. But this would also be ignoring the very cause behind her death, and honestly? That cause is extremely twisted and ****** up when you think about it. So there shouldn't be any excuses going around saying that "this was an extremely disappointing way for her to die." Correction; this was a very ****** up way to die. End of story.
Could this have been done better? Probably, but when you look back in retrospect on a lot of manga's and their chapters, many things could have been done better. This is a pointless argument to make. Her debut, as short as it was, was beautifully done on Horikoshi's part, and now it's possibly being wrapped up to further the development of the cast.
This is wrong. Everyone's not praising Bakugou because he did the bare minimum of teamwork, they're praising Bakugou because he gave fluid instructions to his teammates and perfectly countered Setsuna's team flawlessly. That's more than just simple teamwork. For someone of Bakugou's caliber? It's unexpected for him to work this well in a team-focused environment, which could also be a reason he's being praised.
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Nagnant said Deku was faster than the bullet, so I believe he actually did outspeed it.
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People who say “Bakugo gets praised for no reason” often overlook everything he does that is giving him praise. Same way Deku haters ignore Deku’s development and then say he does not develope.
Seems to be a common trend for people who dislike certain aspects of the series.
Seems to be a common trend for people who dislike certain aspects of the series.
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