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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Well, he’s definitely fast AF with Fa Jin when he’s not focusing on like 5 quirks at once, good to know. So if he just uses Fa Jin, he can reach 100% levels of strength and speed while still being at 30%, meaning a boost to his power while at 45% would be quite insane. Also, he can build the energy for it by literally any movement, so that’s pretty fantastic for someone that moves around a lot in battle.

As for Lady Nagant, let’s hope she isn’t fully dead yet, now that Hawks is here and has baby wings to use. I wonder if Chisaki is going to do anything now, since him being shot at was clearly not the plan.

Deku needs more therapy. Like, a lot of therapy. Also he’s a full blown omega hero, stepping in to help Overhaul without ANY question. Just like the First said, his will to help, to save, is irrationally high.
 
Quirk rank:

With OFA stockpile

Fa Jin: 8/10
Danger Sense: 9/10
Blackwhip: 8/10
Smokescreen: 5/10
Float: 7/10

By Themselves:

Fa Jin: 7/10
Danger Sense: 7/10
Blackwhip: 6/10
Smokescreen: 5/10
Float: 6/10
 
What if the last OFA quirk is a quirk that can heal others but not himself? The gun-gauntlets are just a red herring and just a support item, that has nothing to do with his quirk.
 
People already spent ages crying about Eri being a healer (mind you she's untrained and requires a lot of charge time). Her quirk is like an extremely weaker version of Orihime's ability yet people kept treating her as if she would "break the plot" or "reduce tension".

If Deku got such an ability, I'm sure there would be a lot of the same complaints.


It's a cool thought though and I really liked an indirect healing ability like Katsuma's cell activation.
 
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I want the last quirk to be some transformation or healing ability or something and not another “projectile” attack as his gauntlets make it seem. It would be so redundant. He already has Fajin, Air Force and Blackwhip.
 
I feel it’s definitely a sort of projectile. None of his quirks, not even Air Force, give him good ranged options. Air Force is too weak to bother with against sufficiently strong enemies, Fa Jin is a great amp but requires build up time and Blackwhip doesn’t actually have attack power, only grabbing (at least so far).

An actual, dedicated projectile attack is the only thing he truly lacks, and it can be combined with those other quirks to be way better.
 
Blackwhip can tear things apart as shown when it first appeared. A 100% Pinpoint Blackwhip would basically be a sniper round. Not to mention a 100% Fajin Air Force finger flick would be better than a simple projectile quirk. Again, it’s redundant.
 
It also depends on what the projectile even would be though. If it’s a laser for instance, then that opens up him being able to cut things. Or what if he’s able to redirect the projectile mid air? Or refract it into multiple projectiles? With Blackwhip, he tends to make the shape first then shoot it out, but being able to actually play around something that isn’t attached to him seems like a much better option, especially since Blackwhip can be destroyed.

I wouldn’t undersell a projectile quirk just because he has ranged options, especially since those options tend to need him to be going all out. There are a lot of ranged attacks that anyone would kill to have.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Well, he’s definitely fast AF with Fa Jin when he’s not focusing on like 5 quirks at once, good to know. So if he just uses Fa Jin, he can reach 100% levels of strength and speed while still being at 30%, meaning a boost to his power while at 45% would be quite insane.
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There's a panel in this chapter where it shows he is using 45%, at least while performing the pseudo-100% feat.
 
Therefir said:
There's a panel in this chapter where it shows he is using 45%, at least while performing the pseudo-100% feat.
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Still a good amp regardless considering he doesn’t need to break a leg to reach that level anymore from 45%. Just means that his 30% receives a substantial increase as well for some brief moments. And the more he moves the more he gains.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Still a good amp regardless considering he doesn’t need to break a leg to reach that level anymore from 45%. Just means that his 30% receives a substantial increase as well for some brief moments. And the more he moves the more he gains.
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Agree, and the feat itself is insane, it will be hard if not almost impossible to find the distance that Deku traveled, but I will do my best to calculate this feat.

By the way, I just read the summary and it seems that Deku has been using 45% all this time, so I guess we can finally put 30% to rest, we should have gone with that image comparing his 5% and 45%...
 
Fa jin just reminds me of Yang's semblance but instead of getting hit to grow stronger fa Jin just absorbs KE like ozpins cane
 
Therefir said:
Agree, and the feat itself is insane, it will be hard if not almost impossible to find the distance that Deku traveled, but I will do my best to calculate this feat.

By the way, I just read the summary and it seems that Deku has been using 45% all this time, so I guess we can finally put 30% to rest, we should have gone with that image comparing his 5% and 45%...
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I put no trust in those summaries when it comes to what’s on page, because there are times where they just assume things without evidence. I will be waiting for officials, especially since him being at 45% this entire time wouldn’t make much sense from what we know.
 
Also, beyond the feat of him pushing Overhaul out of the bullet’s path, after catching up to the bullet from at least dozens to maybe even a hundred meters away, he blitzed Lady Nagant from the distance she was flying at. Also, the bullet was going to blitz Overhaul, since he was in the exact same yelling position from before she shot. So he do be kinda fast with Fa Jin.
 
Just in time as the MVA arc draws near, Horikoshi kills off Nagant. He does love doing things in parallel with the anime, even killing off female villains that was just introduced recently. Hope I'm wrong though,
 
Hopefully she makes it, she’s a pretty great character and exploding from the inside tends to not kill people, see Toga in MVA. Sure are a lot of parallels here huh?

Failing that, she can at least tell us where AFO is before dying. I feel she’s still got one last heroic act left in her. Best case scenario is she lives though, I really like her.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
I put no trust in those summaries when it comes to what’s on page, because there are times where they just assume things without evidence. I will be waiting for officials, especially since him being at 45% this entire time wouldn’t make much sense from what we know.
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Yeah lol. He can still use 45% when landing hits but 45% Full Cowl should significantly tax his body. He didn't even use 45% Full Cowl consistently against Shigaraki.
 
I absolutely hope Nagant doesn't die from something so lame, but I've set my standards for the series on a level that I won't be too disappointed if she does kick the bucket.
 
Metalballrun said:
I absolutely hope Nagant doesn't die from something so lame, but I've set my standards for the series on a level that I won't be too disappointed if she does kick the bucket.
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I mean, the death is actually quite tragic and in line with where the series is right now. A broken hero seeing the light in society, a true hero for the first time in probably years, the main character who has been working so hard to save people, only for both of them to be viciously kicked to the dirt by her dying from a preset plan of the villain in case this happened. A tool used until the end.

Quite poetic and mentally scarring. The death itself is very lame though because E X P L O S I O N.
 
Inb4 the last quirk Deku unlocks is “vestige” which allows him to absorb quirk factors and the personality of a person if they are dying. Could explain how One For All cultivated this Vestige world in the first place outside of “it just kinda happened with the younger brother’s quirk”.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
Inb4 the last quirk Deku unlocks is “vestige” which allows him to absorb quirk factors and the personality of a person if they are dying.
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I fully believe Deku is going to have AFO before this series ends. If nothing else, he might just steal it while clashing with Shigaraki trying to take OFA.
 
Animegod12345 said:
Lmao deku isn’t going to get afo
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I am allowed to believe. I’ll fully accept being wrong, but that’s my wish. I also have the theory that AFO wants OFA for the added reason of being strong enough to take over the world, not just Japan, because there are stronger villains and heroes than him out there and OFA is a required boost to make him a player.

All headcanon, but all my own.
 
I reckon Deku turns Shigaraki over to the good side and saves him, he allows Shigaraki to take One For All and Shigaraki kills All For One, then willingly allows One For All to destroy himself. Series ends with Deku retired at age 17 as the greatest hero in the world, now quirkless.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
I mean, the death is actually quite tragic and in line with where the series is right now. A broken hero seeing the light in society, a true hero for the first time in probably years, the main character who has been working so hard to save people, only for both of them to be viciously kicked to the dirt by her dying from a preset plan of the villain in case this happened. A tool used until the end.

Quite poetic and mentally scarring. The death itself is very lame though because E X P L O S I O N.
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Nagant's character deserves a far better way to kick the bucket than that. It might just be me, but I'm simply bitter with how this series has handled character deaths for characters with a lot of potential.

Nighteye was kinda okay I guess, but his death suffers due to the overall quality of the Overhaul arc.

Curious dying was an absolute shame and waste of character with high potential that Horikoshi didn't have plans for. Curious would've been perfect for the current arc, she would've spearheaded smearing the name of the heroes and the hero society because that was her specialty. Then again, all of the remaining MLA members got shafted so perhaps it wouldn't have made a difference even if she actually lived.

Midnight's death was just blah. I wouldn't have felt as much emotion for her death if I haven't read Vigilantes where she actually got significant screentime. It was a sad death, as people argued, due to the reactions of Class 1-A to her death. But IMO it just made it worse, it's a lose-lose situation where either we think of her as a wasted character who got killed off for the sake of having a significant death for the hero's side of the series, or she was just a minor character anyways that was only there to make an emotional impact for the students who are similarly minor characters themselves, so they actually all matter so little.

And now Nagant, who honestly is the type of character that would usually die at the hands of the villains. I think another thing that grinds my gears is that she's far cooler and more interesting than the majority of the villains ever introduced in the series, and now she's probably gonna bite the dust.
 
Is it just me or does All For One have twisted versions of every Vestige quirk?

Float - Air Walk.
Blackwhip - Rivet Stab.
Smokescreen - Radio Waves.
Fajin - Multiplier.
Danger Sense - Search. Kinda.

Based off this, maybe the last Vestige quirk is something similar to Impact Recoil or Spear-like Bones.
 
I hope Overhaul steps up and we get an answer on what being "remodelled" meant.

Last week I kinda found Fa Jin a bit underwhelming but from this chapter, it seems to be a pretty formidable quirk. Just an absolutely overpowering ability. Even without OFA, the 2nd user must have been pretty strong.

This kinda gives me hope for the first also having a powerful ability. These 2 were resistance fighters against AFO and even broke AFO's brother free so they couldn't have been as weak as say Smokescreen.

And once again, once Black Whip comes into play, things enter high gear. Black Whip is a powerful ability through and through.
 
Earthyboy said:
I'm also making attempts at calculating the bullet's muzzle velocity, but I'm not having much luck on it.
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It will be hard calcing the speed of Nagant's bullets considering she can alter their speed.

Apparently she can increase the speed of her bullets by sacrificing accuracy.
 
Metalballrun said:
Nagant's character deserves a far better way to kick the bucket than that. It might just be me, but I'm simply bitter with how this series has handled character deaths for characters with a lot of potential.

Nighteye was kinda okay I guess, but his death suffers due to the overall quality of the Overhaul arc.

Curious dying was an absolute shame and waste of character with high potential that Horikoshi didn't have plans for. Curious would've been perfect for the current arc, she would've spearheaded smearing the name of the heroes and the hero society because that was her specialty. Then again, all of the remaining MLA members got shafted so perhaps it wouldn't have made a difference even if she actually lived.

Midnight's death was just blah. I wouldn't have felt as much emotion for her death if I haven't read Vigilantes where she actually got significant screentime. It was a sad death, as people argued, due to the reactions of Class 1-A to her death. But IMO it just made it worse, it's a lose-lose situation where either we think of her as a wasted character who got killed off for the sake of having a significant death for the hero's side of the series, or she was just a minor character anyways that was only there to make an emotional impact for the students who are similarly minor characters themselves, so they actually all matter so little.

And now Nagant, who honestly is the type of character that would usually die at the hands of the villains. I think another thing that grinds my gears is that she's far cooler and more interesting than the majority of the villains ever introduced in the series, and now she's probably gonna bite the dust.
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This is the issue i had with Hirokoshi, his intent to killing his characters was BS
 
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