- 3,191
- 3,445
This fight is really dependent on how much Deku is willing to hold back. Unless the students get blatant upgrades of course like, say, Kirishima or Tokoyami tanking 30% attacks.
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¯\( ツ)/¯Rei tried helping Shoto’s burn by placing her hand directly on his face and using her quirk. If his quirk was “spawn ice” I don’t think she would’ve been able to do that exactly. She’d be sending sharp ice shards straight into his eye rather than just cooling the water affected area.
If you are referring to my calcWhich also means the re do calc at Low 7-B+ is incorrect as well.
I see.When Rei used her quirk (which Todoroki inherited), she was generating cold mist over her whole body but there was no ice. So it’s clear he freezes the air and creates a cold mist, which then spawns ice. The anime and movies supports this when it goes into “super detailed hyper cool animation budget mode” where Todoroki makes little sprinkles and cold mist around his skin before making ice.
Ah well they're the minority for a reason.Some minority of people are saying “Class 1A are biased for all going to save Deku but only a few tried to save Bakugo at Kamino” completely ignoring how different the contexts are, most importantly, they have PERMISSION to save Deku
I actually did do this 8-A with V frag or Low 7-B with KEAlso I was thinking of possibly using this new sports festival area size to calculate the amount of concrete Shoto’s Flashfreeze heatwave destroyed
Idk seems like it could yield good now
Oh, I don't know? Because of the giant vortex which spun at ludicrous speeds? It's not that hard to fathom how he'd bring them in.how exactly would he pull something in Thats directly above them?
The clouds spinning would seemingly imply that something seemingly drew them in. The clouds obviously aren't funneled clouds. The sky isn't that dark, nor is their lightning. So the only plausible explanation would be that the vortex brought them in, given how it's also spinning. And calculating the Rotational Kinetic Energy of the clouds would likely yield far more impressive results, and be way harder to calculate.That doesnt seem right. In the anime all we see are the storm clouds spinning in circles, none of the sort implying he pulled the clouds from a far away distance. I dont see why not just do KE for the clouds spinning
People are claiming that his ice doesn’t have KE because his Ice “forms in place” rather than having a set mass then moving or something like that.By the way, is Todoroki losing his Low 7-C rating because it's not known whether or not he freezes the air or generates the ice from his body? If so, then I might take a shot at calculating the KE of his moves.
You have no proof that anything like this ever happened, and I called you ignorant because storms in real life start to spin when the warm, moist air above the surface rises, and is replaced by cooler air, producing that characteristic spinning effect in hurricanes, so to say this storm was created by KE simply because the clouds are spinning is showing that you don't know how a storm really works.First of all, despite your attempts at making it seem like I'm ignorant to how the feat operated, I never ruled out the possibility that this was done through CAPE. Because there's evidence in the anime suggesting that All Might created the clouds first, then brought them in via the Kinetic Energy of his Cyclone. It's not impossible for that to happen.
She’d basically stomp almost anyone in a 1v1imagine how deadly a Lady nagant with those quirk null bullets would be.
Give her a Quick Nullification Bullet and have her shoot Shigaraki, GG.imagine how deadly a Lady nagant with those quirk null bullets would be.
Interesting, but I think if you were to pixel scale the Sports Festival stadium using the characters or the length of the arena they fight on, it probably wouldn't reach over 1km. But that's just me.People are claiming that his ice doesn’t have KE because his Ice “forms in place” rather than having a set mass then moving or something like that.
I personally don’t care for the ice wall but if it helps I’ve already recalculated his Sports festival Heaven piercing Ice wall using the 4km circumference statement for the track around the stadium.
So I have the Ice’s mass and I also got the speed.
Edit: Shoto also may get a 7-C rating for Half Hot during UA Beginnings, due to these recalculations using the new stadium size (him vaporizing the ice wall was Town level and his flash freeze heatwave vaporizing his own ice I got to town+)
So I have no proof that this happened despite the literal several instances of evidence being brought to the table, shown, given context, and then backed up by more arguments. Are you sure about that? Because I can argue with certainty that you're just trying to preserve your headcanon at this point.You have no proof that anything like this ever happened.
So now you're claiming All Might generated something similar to a hurricane? Something which by all definitions is far different than just a regular thunderstorm with strong instability. Why should I take you seriously at this point if you're just spouting baseless nonsense?because storms in real life start to spin when the warm, moist air above the surface rises, and is replaced by cooler air, producing that characteristic spinning effect in hurricanes
I assumed that because it's been made apparent there's a connection with All Might's cyclone and the storm spinning. Moreover, there is a giant eye in the center of the storm where the cyclone formed. Implying that All Might's cyclone must've moved in the clouds in, and made them rotate.And you are not even calculating the KE of the spinning clouds, you just randomly assumed All Might pulled a storm cloud from tens of kilometers away at Hypersonic speeds.
If you applied KE to my calculation in the conventional sense using my numbers it’ll yield 7.359548625E+16 Joules or 17 Megatons of TntInteresting, but I think if you were to pixel scale the Sports Festival stadium using the characters or the length of the arena they fight on, it probably wouldn't reach over 1km. But that's just me.
I recall a friend of mine getting Shoto's Heaven Piercing Ice Wall to 41 Kilotons, but he hasn't posted the calculation yet. When I'm not busy or when I'm motivated, I might calculate this myself.
Once again, how is he dragging in the clouds HE CREATED over a great distance if the vortex was created right above him. That makes no sense, earthboyOh, I don't know? Because of the giant vortex which spun at ludicrous speeds? It's not that hard to fathom how he'd bring them in.
Then rotating in a circle doesnt imply whatsoever that they are being drawn in. I fail to see what are you not understanding, am sent a shockwave upwards, the same shockwave was SHOWN TO BE SPINNING, then we have statements saying that AM created the clouds we SEE SPINNING. All of this says all might’s SPINNING vortex caused the clouds he created to spin. If something that isn’t obvious pointed out dont you think they would have a statement supporting what had happen? If anything everything shown does not support what you have stated.The clouds spinning would seemingly imply that something seemingly drew them in. The clouds obviously aren't funneled clouds. The sky isn't that dark, nor is their lightning. So the only plausible explanation would be that the vortex brought them in, given how it's also spinning. And calculating the Rotational Kinetic Energy of the clouds would likely yield far more impressive results, and be way harder to calculate.
Hypersonic ice speed for Shoto is…. Interesting to say the least.So, my Todoroki calcs have been accepted.
Shoto will have a 7-C rating for Half Hot and will be Low 7-B with Flashfreeze Heatwave during UA beginnings.
Along with Hypersonic Attack speed for the Heaven piercing Ice wall.
So I guess we may have a more minor revision soon? Especially since the god tier revision is taking forever to be ready due to Calc evaluations (And people arguing over the same All Might feat)
It did pretty blatantlyDidn’t Flashfreeze Heatwave overpower and beat 100% Deku tho?
I mean it would be cause Weak AM is Low 7B and he completely overpowers Class 1-A stillIt did pretty blatantly
It being Low 7-B isn’t an outlier at all
Prove that in of itself is a contradiction thenI mean it would be cause Weak AM is Low 7B….
Well that and he honestly would’ve killed the man if he did use the same level of power he used on DekuFlashfreeze Heatwave is Shoto's strongest moves plus it needs setup, it isn't something he can bust out in an instant, that's why he has the weaker version he used against Cider House.
That’s fairI would definitely not say it “blatantly overpowered” Deku’s 100%. We’re comparing Deku needing to push, not punch, air pressure at Todoroki because his whole hand was already broken to Todoroki heating the cold air up to make an explosion. It’s not like Todoroki clashed with his fist, he blew him out of the ring.
I just did lol. The fact that it could be in the same lvl on AM who is >>>> Class 1-A should tell you alreadyProve that in of itself is a contradiction then
Endeavor believed Shoto could surpass All Might
If Shoto can bust out a 1.16 Megaton feat at full power than this is not outrageous
He overpowers 100% Deku himself (albeit he was weakened but then again this Calc is only around 1 Megaton slightly above baseline)
Plus it’s just one attack his strongest move that needs setup
Plus we have Nejire at possibly Low 7-B or something