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Timestop + 2-A reality hax = DIO casuals
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My Hax is too powerful for you: Heaven Ascension DIO vs Medaka Kurokami
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Votes again?
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Oddly enough not going with dio. He does minimal effort except the hero pis would gimp ha probably optimaly.
Rikimarox2
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Dio FRA.
Also, Fire, you are basically saying Medaka can Power Null any ability.
Also, Fire, you are basically saying Medaka can Power Null any ability.
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DIO FRA.
Udlmaster
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Okay, but what about Medaka's all fiction? All it would take is less than a second for her to erase him from existence? And if not, then why?
Also, it becomes Time Stop vs Time Stop, also, Auto Pilot would help out against each other if they're moving in stopped time.
Also, it becomes Time Stop vs Time Stop, also, Auto Pilot would help out against each other if they're moving in stopped time.
Rikimarox2
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HA Dio's Time Stop >>> Medaka's Time Stop.
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Not comparable as they are not the same thing. Medaka is just Pseudo time stop , not ACTUAL time stop. They work differently, HAD won't move in her stopped time.Rikimarox2 said:
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Because...?Firephoenixearl said:
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Time doesn't stop, she makes herself transcend time in a way, or u could say "she makes herself not have a concept of time", it has nothing to do with whether HAD moves or not. Medaka erases her concept of time.RebubleUselet said:
SchroKatze
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Nope, she erases the time needed to complete a certain action.
SchroKatze
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Its NOT the same as erasing the concept of time.
SchroKatze
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Its not even pseudo-time stop, its just speed hax via self-time manipulation.
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Yeah, but that would mean that time passes for the world too. She erases time as in "the concept of time in her actions" making them instant, that's what i meant.SchroKatze said:
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Mind elaborating? Because it seems like you're just slapping the word "concept" on anything you wish without any context whatsoever.
Btw @Schro, it would be good if you just edited your reply without making new ones
Btw @Schro, it would be good if you just edited your reply without making new ones
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How it works is basically "erase time", but what i mean by this is, she erases the concept of time for her actions or "the time it takes her to do something", so basically, if she needs time to do an action normally that time is just erased by all fiction, not in the sense of "erasing the time frame" but rather erasing the time from her actions, which is essentially conceptual erasure. Correct me if im wrong on that doe.
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Its not the same as conceptual erasure. Its more Space-Time Manipulation and etc, but via erasure.
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U got my point.SchroKatze said:
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Dis be ded?
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HAHAHA! "jobs" never heard someone say it that way xD.PaChi2 said:
But even without that Medaka is the exact same type of stand as TWOH with The End (that's what i call baking hot plot when it's not allowed)
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Voting for Medaka. The End would be able to copy TWOH but better and stands do count as abnormal. An Abnormal is an individual possessing overwhelming capabilities such that the individual is unable to control that aspect of themselves and inherently seeks to master this power. An Abnormality is the specific, beyond human ability that an Abnormal possesses. Abnormalities manifest solely as internal powers, and rarely can be projected outside of the user's body. Oudo Miyakonojou is a notable exception to this rule. Abnormalities are often innate abilities, but are not necessarily present from birth, as it often takes a few years for an Abnormality to make itself evident.
The End (Õ«îµêÉ, Ji Endo): Medaka is capable of learning Abnormalities and completely mastering them, to the extent that she can use them to one hundred and twenty percent of their capability, becoming more skilled with them than even their original owners. This ability allows her to learn any skill quickly, from simple skills like baseball to the impossible feats performed by the members of the Thirteen Party. Medaka has learned super ball usage from Unzen, Auto-Pilot (automatic movement) from Takachiho, hidden weapon techniques from Munakata, accelerated healing from Koga, syringe usage from Naze, Reading Minds (the ability to receive electrical waves) from Yukuhashi, and Weighted Words (the ability to send electrical waves) from Oudo. As her Abnormality has developed, Medaka can now learn abilities based off of information or word-of-mouth and can now copy Minuses, successfully learning Five Forks from only a secondhand description. Throughout her time at Hakoniwa, Medaka has also managed to learn Encounter, Scar Dead, Ice Fire, Unknown Hero, Mother's Task, Book Maker, All Fiction, and a portion of Ajimu's quadrillion skills,[415] of which she has demonstrated one hundred Trample Skills.[416] However, The End does have its limits. While Medaka can learn skills that exceed her physical capabilities, she cannot copy the physical capabilities of the original skill holder. Medaka is unable to stop herself from learning an Abnormality when she experiences it. She is also unable to learn styles.
The End (Õ«îµêÉ, Ji Endo): Medaka is capable of learning Abnormalities and completely mastering them, to the extent that she can use them to one hundred and twenty percent of their capability, becoming more skilled with them than even their original owners. This ability allows her to learn any skill quickly, from simple skills like baseball to the impossible feats performed by the members of the Thirteen Party. Medaka has learned super ball usage from Unzen, Auto-Pilot (automatic movement) from Takachiho, hidden weapon techniques from Munakata, accelerated healing from Koga, syringe usage from Naze, Reading Minds (the ability to receive electrical waves) from Yukuhashi, and Weighted Words (the ability to send electrical waves) from Oudo. As her Abnormality has developed, Medaka can now learn abilities based off of information or word-of-mouth and can now copy Minuses, successfully learning Five Forks from only a secondhand description. Throughout her time at Hakoniwa, Medaka has also managed to learn Encounter, Scar Dead, Ice Fire, Unknown Hero, Mother's Task, Book Maker, All Fiction, and a portion of Ajimu's quadrillion skills,[415] of which she has demonstrated one hundred Trample Skills.[416] However, The End does have its limits. While Medaka can learn skills that exceed her physical capabilities, she cannot copy the physical capabilities of the original skill holder. Medaka is unable to stop herself from learning an Abnormality when she experiences it. She is also unable to learn styles.
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I'm still not buying her copy'ing 2-A powers
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It's not that hard, just remember that Ajimu and Hanten exist and she copied a skill that's above these 2.RebubleUselet said:
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Ajimu herself is rated as Unknow, so she can't be used as an argument.
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inb4 Medaka vs UKG
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Plz no.....RebubleUselet said:
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Even by lowballing it is true.DMB 1 said:
All Fiction is at least 2-C
Ajimu is stronger than that (so at LEAST 2-B, it is unknown what tier she is due to her dimensional crossing and stuff but she's at LEAST that much)
Hanten is about as strong if not stronger than ajimu by skill creation
And Medaka copied Bookmaker which worked on both of these AND made it better.
2-A ain't a big deal, and let's not mention she only needs to copy TWOH and she wins, she doesn't need to use Reality Overwrite (which is the only thing that is ranked as 2-A) to beat HAD.
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"All Fiction is at least 2-C"
Since there are (at best) 2 universes in Medaka, that's not "at least 2-C", but rather a "possibly 2-C (a baseline one)". And let's not forget that Tier 2 Medaka Box isn't accepted, so that's why she's Unknown.
"Ajimu is stronger than that (so at LEAST 2-B)"
Not how it works buddy: if you are incredibly stronger than a 2-C, you are still a 2-C, especially if the first is a baseline. In fact, with the new Tier 2 revisions, even if you were infinitely stronger than a 2-C, you'd still be 2-C.
So no, Medaka ain't copying a 2-A power anytime soon.
Since there are (at best) 2 universes in Medaka, that's not "at least 2-C", but rather a "possibly 2-C (a baseline one)". And let's not forget that Tier 2 Medaka Box isn't accepted, so that's why she's Unknown.
"Ajimu is stronger than that (so at LEAST 2-B)"
Not how it works buddy: if you are incredibly stronger than a 2-C, you are still a 2-C, especially if the first is a baseline. In fact, with the new Tier 2 revisions, even if you were infinitely stronger than a 2-C, you'd still be 2-C.
So no, Medaka ain't copying a 2-A power anytime soon.
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Actually there are at least 4 universes in Medaka Box, but anyway.
Not gonna bother with the explanation over Ajimu's transendence over Medaka Box and her higher dimensional existence which qualify for tier 1 if im not mistaken, so imma just skip to the point. Medaka only needs to copy TWOH to stomp dis guy. She doesn't need RO to win, she will just steal RO after she wins. TWOH is not treated as 2-A so Medaka *understands* her way to victory here.
Not gonna bother with the explanation over Ajimu's transendence over Medaka Box and her higher dimensional existence which qualify for tier 1 if im not mistaken, so imma just skip to the point. Medaka only needs to copy TWOH to stomp dis guy. She doesn't need RO to win, she will just steal RO after she wins. TWOH is not treated as 2-A so Medaka *understands* her way to victory here.
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Being "Higher dimensional" can very well just be High 3-A.
And what are these 4 universes? Everyone says that there is the mani 1, and then the "room" or something, but that's it.
And DIO can just time-stop and overwrite her out of existence, or steal her soul. And since he stomped GER, her Causality Manipulation is useless.
And what are these 4 universes? Everyone says that there is the mani 1, and then the "room" or something, but that's it.
And DIO can just time-stop and overwrite her out of existence, or steal her soul. And since he stomped GER, her Causality Manipulation is useless.
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Transcending a verse is not 3-A doe.
The room is not a universe, it's not even heaven or hell. It's just ajimu's ability to be anywhere (she is present in their hearts or dreams when they die). Medaka traveled into other universes with War-Gold (and possibly many other universes), that makes 2, then there is Baby Planet and Pioneer Flag used by both Ajimu and Medaka (in that order), both of which create a new universe. That makes 4, but again that's only "at least" 4 (there could be more but we take 4).
Medaka won't get time stoped due to copying TWOH, then she will All Fiction blitz HAD and Bookmaker him and GG.
The room is not a universe, it's not even heaven or hell. It's just ajimu's ability to be anywhere (she is present in their hearts or dreams when they die). Medaka traveled into other universes with War-Gold (and possibly many other universes), that makes 2, then there is Baby Planet and Pioneer Flag used by both Ajimu and Medaka (in that order), both of which create a new universe. That makes 4, but again that's only "at least" 4 (there could be more but we take 4).
Medaka won't get time stoped due to copying TWOH, then she will All Fiction blitz HAD and Bookmaker him and GG.
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