My Hax is too powerful for you: Heaven Ascension DIO vs Medaka Kurokami

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

What? Ya do realize dio can move within medakas hax while medaka would be frozen by his?

Yeah? Excluding the fact funny explicitly noted "even with lovetrain i cant defeat him". Which does what encounter does with far higher distance and range but ya forgot ha dio had ticket to ride or almost what could be known as lovetrain 0.1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmhd-P6PLS4 53:01.

No? Kars had feats of copying stands plus kars ya thinking of explicitly and outright not exists. within a canon that ha dio exists within. Eoh canon had not a instance of stand copying.

And feats of copying a 2-A power for medaka?. Ya claiming nlf.

Mindcontrol bfr timetravel or soulhax etc. Excluding lightning all his power or hax would defeat medaka.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Boi get that conceptual erasure shit out of here. This crap is basically no different from your basic time stop, and HA Dio's TS >>>> Basic TS.

It's not Basic TS, it's "pseudo TS" it works differently from the conventional TS. That's what i mean, being immune to normal TS doesn't make u immune to sth that works like a time stop, but is not a time stop.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

TWOH's Infinite speed counters time erasure though

 

[Firephoenixearl]

BFR won't work, All Ficition.

Mind Manipulation...yeah, Medaka can resist dat shit, she will just control her own mind back to normal.

Soul Manipulation, won't happen unless you menage to hit Medaka.

Overwriting encounter through the barriers is like overwriting goku through his Ki balls.

Kars that copies stands is not canon, neither is HAD doe.

About Medaka's copying abilities, she was stated to be able to copy ANYTHING within her verse (styles aside due to the fact that a perfect being like Medaka can't use words well enough to make normal ppl understand), any abnormality and minus including "nullify any skill" "be ANYWHERE, like literally even in ppl's minds, hearts or dreams" "power swap" etc etc. The End is scary.

And Medaka always has the upper hand on HAD due to Mind Read.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Nevermind, I just noticed that the speed is equal. But it still doesn't change the fact, 'cause the time stands still in both cases, just for different reasons.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

You still haven't proven that Medaka's powers will work against 2-A hax.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Nevermind, I just noticed that the speed is equal. But it still doesn't change the fact, 'cause the time stands still in both cases, just for different reasons.

Yeah, that's the point. In this case with speed equal it's better to have both combattants "not" use the time stop. It stops being a battle, or creates complex situations.

 

[Schnee_One]

Time Stop 2A bitchslap FRA

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You still haven't proven that Medaka's powers will work against 2-A hax.

Which powers exactly?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Multiversal range on the bfr. While all fiction only universal.

Except his mindhax directly comes from his or.

He litterally soulhaxed the main cast from cairo egypt 1990 from an completely alternate universe while the main cast was within future and an alternate universe.

Or overwriting the stand user from their stand. Or erasing the forcefield from hax.

Holy shit man ya CANT scale medaka off kars especially when kars not even canon within eoh despite eoh being debately noncanon anyway.

Mind read would do what? Let dio have a free attack while med would be a bit of a busy bee reading his mind excluding the fact mindgax would prevent him from doing any hax on med how exactly also medaka cant outright copy multiversal power without a decent feat of doing anything on par or at least encroaching multiversal power alone.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

DIO is 3-D with 4-D power.

Medaka power will works just fine.

 

[DMUA]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1440174

This exists.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

DIO is 3-D with 4-D power.

Medaka power will works just fine.

Ah cool. The multiversal hax which dio needed a highly complex ritual for can be copied from a almost featless manga character when copying 4D power.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Not siding.

Just being the devil advocate here.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Then why mention a thing medaka cant do.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Nah, Medaka can erases him out of existence.

Whether she can do it before DIO neg or not is up to you to find out.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

All Fiction is not "universal". It's "all of existence", so it's unknown but there ARE more universes (it's shown), especially when Ajimu and Medaka created 2 casually. All Fiction was said to erase all of existence just by being careless, now that ability is 120% stronger on Medaka.

Ok so HAD can erase the force field from the hax, ok, but can he really? All Fiction is not enough to affect Encounter, will Reality Overwrite really work?

I never scaled Medaka off of Kars i just said that Medaka can copy Stands. Is there any proof that Stands can't be copied? If no, canon or not, it still works as evidence as long as it doesn't conflict with the main series.

Mind Read means knowing what ur opponent will do, not sitting down and eating popcorns to learn what they did in their childhood. DIO thinks "i'll stop time" medaka already knows that, that's what it means.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Which decent yeah although not infinite. Which is what his power is at.

Yeah? He erased funny despite only having one funny he erased him across the multiverse and funny himself mentioned he cant defeat had with the full body of the corpse also. Plus had infinitely above encounter.

Had medaka copied multiversal power? Depending on what ya claim then yeah medaka cant. (Also stand per organism a rule).

Exactly. Medaka would be well aware and cant prevent him from doing any of that.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Homu.


Except that had not been argued . The debate was mostly can medaja copy hax?

Also hax directly pointed and directed at ha dio would probably have negated or shot away from him as he holds the corpse at his peak and the corpse negated or plenty (over 30 times within the game) ya may find a handful off the link above which had the parts mitigate and null hax.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Fair.

Tho Medaka other hax would still works on him.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Depending on what. Honestly punching him would odd as that may be would do the most damage as that would not be flung away.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Hmm Medaka kills herself and then uses Encounter to push the death onto HAD. That works.

 

[DMB_1]

Hmm Medaka kills herself and then uses Encounter to push the death onto HAD. That works.

Dio wouldn't let her do that: she would get time-stopped and overwritten from reality first.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Hmm Medaka kills herself and then uses Encounter to push the death onto HAD. That works.

Love train does the exact same thing back and says omae wo mo.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Dio wouldn't let her do that: she would get time-stopped and overwritten from reality first.

Depends, all she needs is to use any hax that insta kill her (appointment table makes this ez if u wanna count that). Then Encounter will passively redirect the death onto HAD the moment it happens, even if the time stop happens the exact time she dies, the death will be pushed onto HAD.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Love train does the exact same thing back and says omae wo mo.

And HAD was unaffeced? Pff, show me a scene where Love train pushes the concept of death onto HAD and HAD just lol nopes it. I don't see HAD having death manipulation immunity which means Deathst Moment also works.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Ya misunderstood. Hadio obtained lovetrain. Eoh lovetrain null multiversal hax.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Ya misunderstood.
Hadio obtained lovetrain. Eoh lovetrain null multiversal hax.

Dude still doesn't make him immune to death inducement. Multiversal Hax is a mute point if he just dies.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Ya do realize lovetrain automatic?.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Ya do realize lovetrain automatic?.

Dude has lovetrain ever induced death on to DIO? Like literally make him die, and he just lolnoped it in some way.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Does Medaka's Death Inducement make DIO die across the whole multiverse (which is infinite) ?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Does Medaka's Death Inducement make DIO die across the whole multiverse (which is infinite) ?

How it works is basically push her death somewhere else, namely HAD.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Dude has lovetrain ever induced death on to DIO? Like literally make him die, and he just lolnoped it in some way.

Do ya have any idea what lt even look meant or does because ya say plenty of shit that does almost nothing for the debate on hand. Obviously lt didnt do that because love train directs and outright mitigates and negates hax. Lt would move the death off dio and place the death on medaka or a civilian.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

So it doesn't? In this case I doubt it'll work

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Also dio undead for what that worth.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Do ya have any idea what lt even look meant or does because ya say plenty of shit that does almost nothing for the debate on hand. Obviously lt didnt do that because love train directs and outright mitigates and negates hax. Lt would move the death off dio and place the death on medaka or a civilian.

Oh so Love Train can push GER's 0 reset onto someone else? Will it really work against something that just happens, Encounter basically takes any kind of dmg, attack and even death and adds the famous "no u" at the end. Also i don't see HAD being immune to death.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

If ger aimed directly at dio yeah maybe.

Worked on mindhax. Which as ya pointed out just does what it does obviously.

He obviously not immune to death he just had a encounter of his that does exactly what medaja does of course all this would have minimal effect on the match when Dio would just hax and be over with the match.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

DIO won't just hax and be over with the match. Time stop gets nulled and his infinite speed countering time stop is negated along with the "speed equalized". Medaka due to more convinient hax still takes this. Also Medaka got Unknown Hero to become basically invisible.

As for encounter if Love Train can really push death then death manipulation won't work. Though im not fully convinced on that, imma leave that as an argument.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Do ya not listen man? His timestop>>>>>Medaka. Infinite benefits dont get equalized only the speed portion and his endurance had nothing do with speed plus even posted gifs above. Lt above multiversal hax meaning quite literally above encounter over an infinite amount and negating a thing such of reality warping and mind hax im sure deathmanipulation within hadio capabilities as the reality warping within question can even do existence erasure with minimal effort.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Medaka cant null his form of time stop hax.