My dark self (Battle for eight strongest no Smurf character) - Dark Surfer Vs Yubel

[Oliver_de_jesus]

SBA and Speed equal
Weird Monster:

Infinity Dude:

Goku solos:

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Surfer has 3 ways to know the danger, the time gem, cosmic awareness and the Soul gem that will tell him that Yubel is a massive problem and not to play.


So he would snap Yubel in stopped time and then transmutate or delete her

 

[deonment]

Surfer has 3 ways to know the danger, the time gem, cosmic awareness and the Soul gem that will tell him that Yubel is a massive problem and not to play.


So he would snap Yubel in stopped time and then transmutate or delete her

Power null + Invul on a 4D level go brrrrr
So how many universes do they scale to

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Power null + Invul on a 4D level go brrrrr

Resistance go brr, also all his power are 4D, from what I see her invulnerability is for conventional attacks not for exotic things like Time Stop, also nothing prevents him from simply erasing her from history itself aka 4D EE or throwing her across the 2-A multiverse

 

[deonment]

Resistance go brr, also all his power are 4D, from what I see her invulnerability is for conventional attacks not for exotic things like Time Stop, also nothing prevents him from simply erasing her from history itself aka 4D EE or throwing her across the 2-A multiverse

How layered is that resistance, yes the invul extends to that stuff, and her passive power null extends to shit like BFR and history level ee anyways, it would also stop surfer's methods of sensing yubel's danger

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

How layered is that resistance, yes the invul extends to that stuff, and her passive power null extends to shit like BFR and history level ee anyways, it would also stop surfer's methods of sensing yubel's danger

a fractal already gives him 4D resistance, he now has a tens of fractals that are the sword itself

about invul, the profile should say so because it give a vague explanation that does not give to understand that last

anyway, Surfer if he want would just change the past and that's it, i dont see acausality

 

[deonment]

a fractal already gives him 4D resistance, he now has a tens of fractals that are the sword itself

That doesn't mean additional layers of hax, wut

about invul, the profile should say so because it give a vague explanation that does not give to understand that last

blame yugioh

anyway, Surfer if he want would just change the past and that's it, i dont see acausality

Yubel thinks and mind haxes with layered mind hax

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

That doesn't mean additional layers of hax, wut

it do in verse, more Fractals more powerful

Also, Surfer's powers are cosmic, which are distinct in the verse itself from things like mystical powers.

blame yugioh

huh, should remove the part of YGO in the thread in that case, i see a lot of perfile and scaling chain that no make sense or no have anything, look Elemental Hero or The Egyptian Gods, only Yubel is somewhat good but even is like 70%

either way, we can probably agree that without Speed equal, Yubel is a stone compared to Surfer that is trillons of time faster

Yubel thinks and mind haxes with layered mind hax

he resist, and has his mind complete take by funny 4-D Sword

 

[deonment]

it do in verse, more Fractals more powerful

Also, Surfer's powers are cosmic, which are distinct in the verse itself from things like mystical powers.

That does not mean they are additional layers of hax, that just means greater amounts of AP

huh, should remove the part of YGO in the thread in that case, i see a lot of perfile and scaling chain that no make sense or no have anything, look Elemental Hero or The Egyptian Gods, only Yubel is somewhat good but even is like 70%

These profiles are literally older than your time on site, but even then, the relevant stuff is in fact right on the profiles.

he resist, and has his mind complete take by funny 4-D Sword

Yubel's mind hax has layers, and has bypassed that type of mind control before

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

That does not mean they are additional layers of hax, that just means greater amounts of AP

no, I mean, the Hulk was not affected by Strange's transmutation (he says it himself Minute 1:05 to 2:40), but the power of a Fractal affected him transmutated him (Same link but minute: 20:10 to 22:00)

These profiles are literally older than your time on site, but even then, the relevant stuff is in fact right on the profiles.

I know dude, but what i saying they are so outdate that you can see Neo Speed feat has broken two links, lack even the most powers, Zorc has nearly all broken/blocked links, The Sacred beasts rank above Hero, who from the description, is comparable to Yubel to some extent in her base form, but Yubel's own profile makes her stronger than the beasts together.

Like i say Yubel is the one with good profile, she can stay in that place but others are old as hell

 

[deonment]

no, I mean, the Hulk was not affected by Strange's transmutation (he says it himself), but the power of a Fractal affected him transmutated him

okay that is a single layer, and still doesn't prove that more fractals are more layers

The Sacred beasts rank above Hero, who from the description, is comparable to Yubel to some extent in her base form, but Yubel's own profile makes her stronger than the beasts together.

What, Yubel's profile literally puts her above Neos

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

okay that is a single layer, and still doesn't prove that more fractals are more layers

What, Yubel's profile literally puts her above Neos

Low Multiverse Level (was able to block and overpower attacks from the Light of Destruction, which could corrupt and empower Yubel)

I not say Neo is equal, just saying that Neo profile make look comparable to Yubel to some extent in her base form like enough for backscaling

 

[Zencha9]

Yubel is above neos
neos is bellow rainbow dragon which was the only monster with enough spirit energy to return duel academy home alongside the sacred beasts and she could overpower them while heavily weakened and was just an rm
also oops should've clarifed that yubel's invul is comes from her card effect

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Yubel is above neos
neos is bellow rainbow dragon which was the only monster with enough spirit energy to return duel academy home alongside the sacred beasts and she could overpower them while heavily weakened and was just an rm
also oops should've clarifed that yubel's invul is comes from her card effect

Someone(in Discord) say me that her invul not cover things such as time stop or thought-based EE, besides that I have my doubts since it is not in her profile as a resistance

Would you send me some scans

 

[Zencha9]

Someone say me that her invul not cover things such as time stop or thought-based EE, besides that I have my doubts since it is not in her profile as a resistance

Would you send me some scans?

it's the whole egyptian gods spirit energy stuff where they nullify and aren't affected by any monster effects in the game which is listed as power null atm
so the evidence would be contextualizing that unsure about time stop but i do remember some monsters having time manip such as moving the flow of time quickly and reverse it
for EE you would have sophia and the power of darkness essentially in duel terminal

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

it's the whole egyptian gods spirit energy stuff where they nullify and aren't affected by any monster effects in the game which is listed as power null atm
so the evidence would be contextualizing that unsure about time stop but i do remember some monsters having time manip such as moving the flow of time quickly and reverse it
for EE you would have sophia and the power of darkness essentially in duel terminal

Well Surfer has resistence to Power Null and his power is not similar to magic

Sophia is CM3, but Surfer is Temporal EE, he make Yubel never born itself

 

[Zencha9]

Well Surfer has resistence to Power Null and his power is not similar to magic

Sophia is CM3, but Surfer is Temporal EE, he make Yubel never born itself

head empty to figure this stuff out but yubel is like stronger than darkness post season 4 so she has higher spirit energy than his history EE

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

head empty to figure this stuff out but yubel is like stronger than darkness post season 4 so she has higher spirit energy than his history EE

Not sure, Surfer's powers become stronger than Thanos' with IG, not only in the sense of stats but haxes, since he add a both power to make it stronger like he say add Infinity to Infinity and the context of the end season 1 about the Infinity sword can used its full power with gems


But well, what about layers transmutation or he change her past?

 

[Zencha9]

for transmutation i'm pretty sure there was a card that could do that
but for messing with the past then yubel gave judai protection from darkness's EE and he could remember erased people though it's not on the profile

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

for transmutation i'm pretty sure there was a card that could do that
but for messing with the past then yubel gave judai protection from darkness's EE and he could remember erased people though it's not on the profile

as i said before, fractals can overcome someone's resistances, the sword itself has a tens of them+IG empowering it

about this, something sounds that has to be activated and is not actual EE, just change her past, a example is like person 1 never know person 2 cuz they go different ways

 

[Zencha9]

dunno about layers but i'll reply with what i know atm and that is regarding darkness's EE
it has Phyiscal components such as erasing said person from pictures taken in the past etc so it does affect history as far as we know and darkness's whole thing is that it returns everything to him darkness the void that existed before creation and time were a thing

 

[Zencha9]

also found some normal monsters that can turn people into zombies via an energy beam and a sword that can mutate people into darker versions of themselves

 

[Zencha9]

wait i forgot the lswarm virus was a thing

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

dunno about layers but i'll reply with what i know atm and that is regarding darkness's EE
it has Phyiscal components such as erasing said person from pictures taken in the past etc so it does affect history as far as we know and darkness's whole thing is that it returns everything to him darkness the void that existed before creation and time were a thing

Mmmmm, i guess they could incon place with unequal speed, Surfer would simply tear the universe apart in a singularity or throw her to the other side of the multiverse

also found some normal monsters that can turn people into zombies via an energy beam and a sword that can mutate people into darker versions of themselves

Well, Sword do that



although now that I think about it just as a joke, I wonder how crazy it would be if Surfer did the same thing he did to the super hero squad's hero up(14:00) to destroy the Duel sequence, not a real thing about the vs, just for the lol

 

[Zencha9]

Mmmmm, i guess they could incon place with unequal speed, Surfer would simply tear the universe apart in a singularity or throw her to the other side of the multiverse

if it's 2-A i don't think she can come back from that physically that but she a way if she gets BFRed or erased via the evolving and reconstructing her body but i dunno would that fall under NLF?

although now that I think about it just as a joke, I wonder how crazy it would be if Surfer did the same thing he did to the super hero squad's hero up(14:00) to destroy the Duel sequence, not a real thing about the vs, just for the lol

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

if it's 2-A i don't think she can come back from that physically that but she a way if she gets BFRed or erased via the evolving and reconstructing her body but i dunno would that fall under NLF?

it's probably NLF with no feats of that caliber or something similar

 

[Zencha9]

Fair enough for yubel she starts with Both mind manip and seeing people's darkness which something like their weaknesses insecurities etc

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

In the serious battles where Dark Surfer fights against someone dangerous, he starts with EE or Time Stop and sealing, his precog, soul stone and cosmic awareness activate themselves when he is in trouble that he himself does not know, showing imagen of the future in some cases