Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

[Betatester0]

I'm back from my vacation and I've seen that no one has commented on the feats I posted. Well, I'm updating the tier now and with this I think I'll finish my contributions for now.

Well people, I proceed to update the scale with the data from volume 23, 24, 25 and 26:

TIER LIST

Orsted FP = Universal/Planet
Max of Paul´s Short Sword
Orsted = Dragon God
Kalman III Fighting Armor
Fighting God = Dragon God Laplace (Demon God x2)
Rudeus Magic Armor MK0
Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5)
Young Man Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5)
Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3)
Young Man Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3)
Laplace = Demon God = Technique God
Gino = Sword God
Kalman III = North God
Rudeus Magic Armor MKI
Gal Farion = Sword God
Kalman II = North God
Mirai Old Rudeus Magic
Young Man Rudeus Magic
Kalman I = North God
Reida = Water God

God Level = Atofe = Ogre God = Randolph = Death God

Eris LN15 = Nina LN 15 = Isolte = Mirai Old Rudeus With Armor
Youth Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) > 2,3 TER TNT

Imperial Level = Youth Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3) = Zanoba = Dogha = Ruijerd = Auber > 1,38 TER TNT

Youth Rudeus Aqua Hartia Fire (x2) > 920 GIG TNT
Hydra
Roxy Staff Water King (x2) > 460 GIG TNT
Badigadi = Almanfi = Ghislaine
Peridot

King Level = Youth Rudeus Magic = Wii Taa = Calina > 460 GIG TNT

Roxy King > 230 GIG TNT
Roxy Staff Fire King (x0,5) > 115 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) > 115 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3) > 69 GIG TNT
Fitts Magic (>1/7 Youth Rudeus Magic) > 65 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Aqua Hartia Fire (x2) > 46 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Magic
Jinas Halfas Magic = Nina

Paul LN12 >= Saint Level = Rudeus Magic Armor MKII = Gino = Funeral Procession = Roxy Staff Water (x2) = Gallus Cleaner = Benebene = Klein Dinoltas = Nuckle = Gard = 23 GIG TNT
The calc for the 23 GIG TNT: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Mushoku_Tensei:_Rudeus_makes_a_storm

Eris LN6 = ~20 GIG TNT -> Close to Saint
Roxy Magic = 11,5 GIG TNT
Roxy Staff Fire (x0,5) = 5,75 GIG TNT
Class A Monster
Cliff Magic
Paul
7º Year Student Magic

Gyes >= Advanced Level = Eris = Soldat = New Guardian Knight = Conrad Magic = Silphiette Magic = Strong Bandit = Linia Magic = Pursena Magic = Leno Magic = 5º Year Student Magic

Class B Monster = Elinalise
Class C Monster
Class D Monster
Young Man Rudeus
Mirai Old Rudeus
Youth Rudeus
Luke = Linia = Pursena
3º Year Student Magic
Pope´s Assassin

Intermediate Level = Adult Norn = Adult Pax Magic = Pax Magic = Timothy Magic = Roxy Child Magic = Ginger = Therese = Juvenile Rudeus = Regular Swordsman

Infancy Rudeus -> Close to Intermediate
Eris Magic

Beginner Level = Lucie Magic = Elinalise Magic = Ghislaine Magic = Patrice Magic = Aisha Magic

Nokopara
Adult Pax
Geese = Mimir = Timothy
Zenith = Lilia = Jinas Halfas
Pax > Fitts = Nanahoshi
Roxy
Class E Monster
Cliff
Kishirika
Ashia = Norn
Silphiette
Lucie
Roxy Child
Min Paul´s Short Sword

No Level

The changes:

.- Incorpore Gino Sword God as above Gal Farion Sword God
.- Change Technique God to put him at the level of Demon God Laplace
.- Incorpore Dogha as north emperor
.- Incorpore Ogre God as basic God Level
.- Incorpore Kalman III as stronger than Kalman II and Gal Farion (Have better feats) but weaker than Gino
.- Change Rudeus Magic Armor MKI to put him weaker than Kalman III
.- Specify that Fighting God and Dragon God Laplace to be x2 Demon God Laplace
.- Incorpore Rudeus Magic Armor MK0 as stronger than Rudeus Magic Armor MKI but weaker than Fighting God
.- Incorpore Kalman III with the armor of The Fighting God as the strongest character but weaker than Orsted

The new Modifications:

.- Modify Atofe and put her in basic God Level
.- Modify Zanoba and put him in Emperor Level
.- Modify Eris LN15, Nina LN 15, Isolte and Mirai Old Rudeus With Armor and put them above regular Emperor and near to God Level
.- Incorpore Kalman I as stronger than Atofe

Previous Doubts:

.- I don't know where the following characters will be: Bloody Kant, Blaze, Dale, Leno, Gadalf Rangid, Talhand, Shierria, Vierra, Class S- Monster, Sara, Suzanne, Patrice, Elmore, Kleene, Nights Eyes Crow, Goliade, Conrad, Sylvarill, Perugius, Moore, Dragon God Urupen, Necross Lacross, Hero Ars, Argantos and Argantos Summons.

.- I will waiting the aproach we finaly take to add the advanced tier calc

Now please, I would like all to review the entire tier and highlight any inconsistencies or possible improvements that they see possible.

I think Atofe should be in the category between imperial and God.
Perugius(with familiars), Urupen and Necross should probably be in basic God. Otherwise everything looks fine.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I think it's best to leave Eris, Nina, Isolte, etc. at Emperor level and only raise Atofe to base God level and understand that there is very little difference from Emperor level to base God level.

God level can be Continental. I don't know.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I'm back from my vacation and I've seen that no one has commented on the feats I posted. Well, I'm updating the tier now and with this I think I'll finish my contributions for now.

Well people, I proceed to update the scale with the data from volume 23, 24, 25 and 26:

TIER LIST

Orsted FP = Universal/Planet
Max of Paul´s Short Sword
Orsted = Dragon God
Kalman III Fighting Armor
Fighting God = Dragon God Laplace (Demon God x2)
Rudeus Magic Armor MK0
Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5)
Young Man Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5)
Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3)
Young Man Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3)
Laplace = Demon God = Technique God
Gino = Sword God
Kalman III = North God
Rudeus Magic Armor MKI
Gal Farion = Sword God
Kalman II = North God
Mirai Old Rudeus Magic
Young Man Rudeus Magic
Kalman I = North God
Reida = Water God

God Level = Atofe = Ogre God = Randolph = Death God

Eris LN15 = Nina LN 15 = Isolte = Mirai Old Rudeus With Armor
Youth Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) > 2,3 TER TNT

Imperial Level = Youth Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3) = Zanoba = Dogha = Ruijerd = Auber > 1,38 TER TNT

Youth Rudeus Aqua Hartia Fire (x2) > 920 GIG TNT
Hydra
Roxy Staff Water King (x2) > 460 GIG TNT
Badigadi = Almanfi = Ghislaine
Peridot

King Level = Youth Rudeus Magic = Wii Taa = Calina > 460 GIG TNT

Roxy King > 230 GIG TNT
Roxy Staff Fire King (x0,5) > 115 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) > 115 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Aqua Hartia Earth & Wind (x3) > 69 GIG TNT
Fitts Magic (>1/7 Youth Rudeus Magic) > 65 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Aqua Hartia Fire (x2) > 46 GIG TNT
Juvenile Rudeus Magic
Jinas Halfas Magic = Nina

Paul LN12 >= Saint Level = Rudeus Magic Armor MKII = Gino = Funeral Procession = Roxy Staff Water (x2) = Gallus Cleaner = Benebene = Klein Dinoltas = Nuckle = Gard = 23 GIG TNT
The calc for the 23 GIG TNT: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Mushoku_Tensei:_Rudeus_makes_a_storm

Eris LN6 = ~20 GIG TNT -> Close to Saint
Roxy Magic = 11,5 GIG TNT
Roxy Staff Fire (x0,5) = 5,75 GIG TNT
Class A Monster
Cliff Magic
Paul
7º Year Student Magic

Gyes >= Advanced Level = Eris = Soldat = New Guardian Knight = Conrad Magic = Silphiette Magic = Strong Bandit = Linia Magic = Pursena Magic = Leno Magic = 5º Year Student Magic

Class B Monster = Elinalise
Class C Monster
Class D Monster
Young Man Rudeus
Mirai Old Rudeus
Youth Rudeus
Luke = Linia = Pursena
3º Year Student Magic
Pope´s Assassin

Intermediate Level = Adult Norn = Adult Pax Magic = Pax Magic = Timothy Magic = Roxy Child Magic = Ginger = Therese = Juvenile Rudeus = Regular Swordsman

Infancy Rudeus -> Close to Intermediate
Eris Magic

Beginner Level = Lucie Magic = Elinalise Magic = Ghislaine Magic = Patrice Magic = Aisha Magic

Nokopara
Adult Pax
Geese = Mimir = Timothy
Zenith = Lilia = Jinas Halfas
Pax > Fitts = Nanahoshi
Roxy
Class E Monster
Cliff
Kishirika
Ashia = Norn
Silphiette
Lucie
Roxy Child
Min Paul´s Short Sword

No Level

The changes:

.- Incorpore Gino Sword God as above Gal Farion Sword God
.- Change Technique God to put him at the level of Demon God Laplace
.- Incorpore Dogha as north emperor
.- Incorpore Ogre God as basic God Level
.- Incorpore Kalman III as stronger than Kalman II and Gal Farion (Have better feats) but weaker than Gino
.- Change Rudeus Magic Armor MKI to put him weaker than Kalman III
.- Specify that Fighting God and Dragon God Laplace to be x2 Demon God Laplace
.- Incorpore Rudeus Magic Armor MK0 as stronger than Rudeus Magic Armor MKI but weaker than Fighting God
.- Incorpore Kalman III with the armor of The Fighting God as the strongest character but weaker than Orsted

The new Modifications:

.- Modify Atofe and put her in basic God Level
.- Modify Zanoba and put him in Emperor Level
.- Modify Eris LN15, Nina LN 15, Isolte and Mirai Old Rudeus With Armor and put them above regular Emperor and near to God Level
.- Incorpore Kalman I as stronger than Atofe

Previous Doubts:

.- I don't know where the following characters will be: Bloody Kant, Blaze, Dale, Leno, Gadalf Rangid, Talhand, Shierria, Vierra, Class S- Monster, Sara, Suzanne, Patrice, Elmore, Kleene, Nights Eyes Crow, Goliade, Conrad, Sylvarill, Perugius, Moore, Dragon God Urupen, Necross Lacross, Hero Ars, Argantos and Argantos Summons.

.- I will waiting the aproach we finaly take to add the advanced tier calc

Now please, I would like all to review the entire tier and highlight any inconsistencies or possible improvements that they see possible.

Should be good. Only those who don't have a level remain.

 

[Narutouchiha95]

God level can be Continental. I don't know.

Nothing says that emperors aren't close to continental level. Although I think continentals are the highest god levels and the average is quite a bit below.