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Fusion Reborn takes place before Super Buu's birth, it's stated in the Daizenshuu
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Movie 12 Gogeta and Janemba scaling in regards to Buuhan's tier 2 feat
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Vegito is 2-C but it’s bs that he’d be comparable to SS4, Goku and Baby ( with complete access to vegetas memories) confirm Baby Vegetas second form is greater than anything that came before which would include Vegito as they retain memories of being fused.
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If that statement is by its lonesome then Vegito has no reason to scale that high, even if he was holding back a massive extent of his power
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Why shouldn't Vegito be that strong? He has no anti feats.
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1. The statement is by its lonesome
2. The statement isn't very solid
Though, I'll take second opinions if he has reason to scale that high
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why isnt it very solid?
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Fork over the scan
If it corroborates Vegito and Gogeta being that strong, then I'll be damned
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Because the show hints at his level of power being surpassed.
Scaling wise he wouldn’t have needed to put even mild effort whilst in base making SS1 unnecessary as a whole and showings where he puts effort inconsistent
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What.
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Bruh Vegito is already 2-C from scaling above Buuhan he doesnt matter
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How is consistency needed when Vegito and Gogeta essentially just whoop their foes.
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Lol I meant SSJ4 Goku during baby stuff
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Give the scan of Gogeta being stated that strong
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Hints what? Nowhere is hinted except your headcanon dude.
My guy, accuracy matters here. If DBZ fusions scale from GT, then is some good information worth to be added. Stop looking at just the tier.
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Whoops got it mixed up.
Eden_Warlock99
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I do want accuracy if just looked like you guys were struggling To find a good reason for 2-C Vegito but his justification could merely be upscaling Buuhan
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Wasn't Vegito literally playing with Buuhan though and was literally unharmed throughout the entire fight.
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There's no Toei Vegito profile anyway
Though his justification would be upscaling from Gogeta, who effortlessly stomped Janemba, who is stronger than Hirudegarn, who severely damaged Post-Buu Saga SS3 Goku, who is vastly stronger than he was when he fought against Kid Buu, who is stronger than Buuhan
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If he can become higher in tier, why not lol.
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He actually put significant effort to stop Buuhan from blowing up the universe and outright claimed he could’ve been hurt by his Super Ghost Kamikazes Kamehamehas (6 of them at once ) opting to IT instead of taking them head on.
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What its looking like so far
2-C = Buuhan < Kid Buu ~ SS3 Goku <<< Post-Revitalization SS1 Goku <<< Post-Buu Saga SS3 Goku <<< Hirudegarn < Janemba <<< Gogeta < Vegito
2-C = Buuhan < Kid Buu ~ SS3 Goku <<< Post-Revitalization SS1 Goku <<< Post-Buu Saga SS3 Goku <<< Hirudegarn < Janemba <<< Gogeta < Vegito
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He said he could've gotten a bruise or a cut. Nowhere near what you're suggesting.
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I still don't see why shouldn't Gogeta be stronger.
Besides, Goku talks of Majin Buu in the movie as a past thing, implying it's post-Buu arc.
Besides, Goku talks of Majin Buu in the movie as a past thing, implying it's post-Buu arc.
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He's faced Innocent Buu at that point. That is most certainly who he's referring to
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That's the dub, in the sub he just said it would have damaged him
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Hmm alright.
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Inclined to believe SSJ Vegito/full power is the one as strong as SSJ4 still though.
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With then Goten and Trunks being able to easily perform Fusion Dance. Come on now.
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They learned it IMMEDIATELY after he went back to Other World. There's a very buyable window of time
There is absolutely no case for Fusion Reborn taking place after the Buu Saga, especially considering Goku and Vegeta WERE DEAD DURING THE MOVIE
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With a dead Goku and Vegeta, and like the Daizenshuu already places it before the Buuhan fight anyway, here's the scan
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That part of the statement is contradicted. I doubt they had the stupid ass Post-Vegito Division scaling in mind. Clearly they were just trying to convey that Janemba is stronger than Hirudegarn
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I just don’t think Goku matters in the scaling, Janemba almost killed him and quickly incapacitated him, wether Goku is weaker or Stronger than Kid Buu doesn’t directly contradict the notion of Janemba being > Hirudegarn as per the guide statement.
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If the baseline for 2-C is Buuhan and we consider that Gohan makes up more than half of Buuhans power, then even SS1 Goku post defusion would be like 25x above Buuhan, but I don’t personally think this Goku scales.
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