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Cipher is wanked more then anything
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Most downplayed character, in your opinion
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Yeah cipher gets wanked too but he also gets downplayed
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Bill Cipher is a weird case. Outside of the wiki he's really wanked, but on the wiki he's very downplayed
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Moro made that side of Reddit that loves downplaying db scream up in joy because of the Galaxy busting statement
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Arceus
pretty obvious ones like Meteor one shot him, he was outsmarted by humans, regular pokemon damaged him
Then you have ones like he is at most superhuman speed because people could see him move
pretty obvious ones like Meteor one shot him, he was outsmarted by humans, regular pokemon damaged him
Then you have ones like he is at most superhuman speed because people could see him move
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yeah, PIS is a funny thing that people don't realize that is an avatar and not the real thing
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Yeah tons of those examples are explained in the very scenes that are used
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Hahaha. Do please show me a feat above 5-B.
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What is his level in your opinion?
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I think he's generally planet lvl and can be argued to uni+.
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There's a literal statement that the biju bomb from kurama can destroy the planet. It's from a Boruto recap of the momoshiki fight.
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There is literally a feat above 5-B accepted on the wiki
the only reason it doesn't scale to god tiers is lol outlier which actually isn't a outlier
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Uni+? What 4-D timeline anything has happened in fehken naruto?
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Inb4
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Actually the highest achievement accepted is Small Planet. But well, I saw many people planning an upgrade for Naruto to 5-B/Low 5-B, so maybe is true
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Are you referring to the 4-B momoshiki Calc?
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ETSB is accepted as High 4-C
It just doesn't scale for no reason at all
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momoshiki, kaguyas dimensions being compared to momoshikis parallel dimension. Madara's thing about creation. There's just really a lot of things that allude to the god tiers being more than moon lvl or planet lvl but people like to go against it.
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that, ETSB, Some more momoshiki feats, Kaguya originally creating her dimensions
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There was like several planet lvl calcs all accepted for a while. There's a calc for moon lvl naruto in the war, there's a calc for kaguya creating each of her dimensions individually all being planetary . Just biased or downplay is why the verse is at moon lvl again
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Or, or, or, the calculations had issues with them.
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I mean, feats of creation are usually "Environmental destruction".
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If there are other feats that were casual then I'd be open to hear about it.
Dimensions depend on the context, DOOM for example has dimensions as being universes
We rarely take statements over feats.
If there are that many then how are they outliers? I have an extremely negative opinion of Naruto as a verse but I also like accuracy.
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Yea I remember people not accepting the tree calc cuz of something non calc related issue. What's the issue with kaguya creating dimensions calc?
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Holy Shit dude, this is not a serious thread with discussions
Arkenis
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That isn't environmental destruction though, especially when you can't prove that's how the dimension was formed
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That is a possibility too
Although haven’t seen any body try recalcing the tree
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Ah but I like to debate and discuss!
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Nah its fine!My bad for making this about naruto.
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At least you didn’t make this about bleachMy bad for making this about naruto.
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Sure Kaguya originally created her dimensions (stated to be her dimensions when she was sealed and by knowledgable people, can control them and has methods the create them) , Momoshiki in the light novels has created a dimension with at least a star in it (says parallel but I don't want to go down that rabbit hole), Momoshiki has some other possible feats with him absorbing the energy in his dimension and his supernova
No they are usually used for tiers
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