Mortal Kombat CRT Part 2: Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

[DMUA]

Why not

"MK vs RWBY is overdone"

 

[Hellbeast1]

I'm sad we can't really do MK vs SC

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Tbh Shao vs Nightmare is possible

 

[DMUA]

If Shinnoo could "effortlessly" defeat Raiden, he should be the next tier up with how close he is to cap

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Baseline City level Shinnok?

But he was beaten by Johnny Cage, and MK scaling is bad

 

[DMUA]

Is Johnny Cage inferior to Raiden normally?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

He is a descendant of a bloodline of warriors bred and trained to fight gods with their awesome green powah and defeated Shinnok who effortlessly defeated Raiden and Fujin.

MK scaling is bad, and I can't even answer your question properly with that

 

[DMUA]

... so like

Johnny is meant to fight divine beings

And he can punch a divine being

.... How is that bad scaling at all?

Just seems like Raiden>>Shinnok=Johnny

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Idk man

Johnny being superior to Raiden seems iffy, but I'm quite leaning on 7-B Shinnok.

Although it could be possible, we just need Dark to come here.

 

[DMUA]

If he can fight someone superior to Raiden, I dunno what else to tell you

 

[Hellbeast1]

Johnny would only have this with his MKX key since that's when the power awoke.

Not sure about Shinnok being 7-B but I'll let you lot have the verdict

 

[DMUA]

He effortlessly defeated someone like .7 Megatons away from 7-B

 

[Schnee_One]

.6

And two people, Fujin as well

 

[Hellbeast1]

Fair enough

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Moderate storms are close to 7-B, sure, but for tier jump we need to be more careful

Raiden directly scales to Low 7-B, only beings capable of absolutely stomping him (and who scales) should be 7-B

 

[DMUA]

Again, a .6 gap, and Shinnok effortlessly defeated them

Yeah, Raiden should be Low 7-B, but Shinnok should be 7-B.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I believe "At least Low 7-B" for base Shinnok and 7-B for Corrupted Shinnok should be better, with the Cages scalling to him

 

[DMUA]

Yosh

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Corrupted Shinnok was absorbing Earthrealm's power so 7-B makes sense since he was getting a boost.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

So...

Low 7-B Raiden and who directly scales

At least Low 7-B for Base Shinnok and Inner Power Johnny

7-B for Corrupted Shinnok and Inner Power Cassie

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Inner Power Cassie can fight Kratos now lol

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Lmao

Also, can I change everyone who is High 7-C to Low 7-B ? I believe they all scale to Raiden, right ?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Yeah go ahead

Kratos haxstomps but if Cassie had higher AP then she could punch him in the nuts and send his consciousness to the 7th dimension lol

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I'll wait for Dark to upgrade Shinnok and The Cages

 

[Kredory]

Cassie Cage with a only a forcefield being stronger than Raiden is funny.

I'd buy it though, Havik even said in the comics that she came from a bloodline of warriors bred to fight gods (which includes Raiden and Shinnok)

 

[Kredory]

Ermac should be equal to Reiko and Kotal Kahn, as he ripped off the former's head with telekinesis.

He also easily defeated Kung Jin and Jacqui Briggs with one telekinetic blast.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I agree with this, considering his unique powers.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Stryker beating this guy is an absolute outlier btw

Add Johnny Cage and Smoke to the list of people who easily beat as well, if you watch their fight in MK9 with Johnny, Ermac barely had any damage on him and broke his leg. It's implied that he beat Smoke as well.

 

[Dark649]

If Shinnok overpowered bot Raiden and Fujin, him and Inner Johnny could be 7-B. The difference from Low 7-B+ to 7-B is from 6.0 to slightly over 6.3 Megatons.

 

[Mightyser]

Maybe current timeline Quan chi also should have two diffrent keys?, one is least 8b ( after shinnok's imprisoned in amulet) and other low 7b or 8a , because it was statement that Quan chi got much weaker after Shinnnok's imprisomnent: For example in first chapter of mkx he almost evently fight with Raiden though he lsot in hand to hand combat he than overpower Raiden with his skull, and first chapter he becomes weaker and because of that he lost to Sonya,Jax and Hanzo Hasashi.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

If Shinnok overpowered bot Raiden and Fujin, him and Inner Johnny could be 7-B. The difference from Low 7-B+ to 7-B is from 6.0 to slightly over 6.3 Megatons.

And "At least 7-B" for Corrupted Shinnok, maybe ?

 

[Schnee_One]

That works^

 

[Dark649]

Nope, just 7-B is fine. For Quan, well he should not have been weaker than his revenants at that time.

 

[Qawsedf234]

A quick question, where does the lifting strength justifications come from? Class K is probably spine rips but what about Class M?

 

[Dark649]

I think is for being far above the Class K char.

 

[Qawsedf234]

That doesn't sound like the correct way to scale things

 

[Dark649]

Then i will change them.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Well after searching around I think the justification comes from Shao Khan but his reasoning doesn't make much sense

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I don't think Revenants should have Type 3 Self Sustenance tbh

They retain their organs even after death and have been knocked out/tired before like when Raiden restored their souls. Scorpion, Sub-Zero and Jax were lying on the ground when that happened. Type 2 is fine since they don't even eat (there is literally nothing to eat in hell besides hellfire and spikes)

 

[Dark649]

Well, Smoke was also knocked down. I will fix that.