Mortal Kombat CRT Part 2: Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

[Hellbeast1]

That's...... actually a good point on Sindel (I'd personally suggest a likely higher since she's the strongest female on the cast making her above Sheeva)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Also I recall her fighting Fujin in MKX and harming him with her scream

 

[Hellbeast1]

Does she? I'd say that's an outlier honestly (she gets beat by Jax and did absolutely nothing to Raiden)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Oh yeah I forgot she got beat by Jax and Cassie even as a revenant

I'd say 8-A for Sindel, MK 8-Bs and 8-As can fight each other since the AP gap isn't that big

Her AP justification should be this:

(Casually killed Jade, Kitana, Smoke, Jax, Stryker, Cyber Sub-Zero, Kabal and defeated Sonya Blade and Johnny Cage. Was amped with thousands of souls from Shang Tsung)

Her dura justification should be this:

(Took hits from Cassie Cage and Jax)

 

[Schnee_One]

Revanent Sindel is 8B

8A for amped seems good

Also her harming Fujin was with her scream which is Hax.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Sindel has hax?

 

[Schnee_One]

Sound manipulation is Hax yes

Sound still stuns

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I just rewatched that scene where she kills everyone, talk about a stomp tho

8A for amped, 8B for revenant seems perfect

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Speaking of which, Sindel was 8-A when she was first introduced. She was already dead and Quan Chi had to resurrect her, then brought her to Shao where she received thousands of souls.

Then she died and started jobbing like all revenants except Kitana and Sub-Zero, so 8-B is fine lol

 

[Dark649]

I'm fine with the Sindel changes.

 

[Schnee_One]

Also

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...!_(Mortal_Kombat_Raiden_Calc)?comments_page=1

Someone should double check these comments, because many agree with 8A over Low 7C

 

[Dark649]

I think this calc should be checked again there was debates whatenever 8-A or Low 7-C should be used.

 

[DMUA]

I made a thread about that stuff actually, I was told the Low 7-C result was accepted on another thread

.... That said I never was provided said thread

 

[Hellbeast1]

To be fair that call is kinda outdated as it doesn't account for Omaha dwarfing 8 foot Shokans

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Can someone apply the Sindel changes because I'm on mobile and I don't know how to do it here

Also pls add Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Soul Attacks since she was charged with thousands of souls from Shang Tsung

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Also add Resurrection (Of others) for Shao Kahn as Hellbeast pointed out

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

What power do you think this is?

 

[Dark649]

That's an hologram Quan sent to D'vorah.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Should Sub-Zero have a 8-B Revenant key since the power levels are very different from his High 7-C key?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Also we should add "Varies with Shapeshifting" in Shang Tsung's stats since he can actually morph into anyone he sees or knows. It's a big NLF but he obviously can't morph into a someone who isn't a 3 dimensional dude.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

8-B Revenant Sub Zero should be good, however maybe part of the cast is already 8-A by that point, it's possible

He can copy the powers but not the AP, I believe

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

He should be 8-B though, he was kinda weaker in MKX and got beaten by Sonya Blade, and his powers in his High 7-C key should be moved to that since he was a revenant when he gained the three variations (Cryomancer, Unbreakable, Grandmaster)

 

[Schnee_One]

Shouldn't Nightwolf be 8A since he fought on par with Sindel or no?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Yeah

He beat her but was forced to disintegrate her once she got the upper hand

 

[Dark649]

I repeat that MK 9 and X powerscaling is bad, i don't think we should too much consider it.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Maybe Nightwolf could be 8-B and 8-A with one attack which we don't even know the real name

 

[Dark649]

Nightwolf lost to Scorpion and Kenshi. Through we have at least 8-B+ char. defeating 8-A char. from Striker defeating Kintaro.

 

[Hellbeast1]

On that note why do we have the majority as one tier below the Shokans and co? There's not much indicative of such a tier difference in any of the Netherrealm properties.

 

[Dark649]

They were all 8-A, however other Admins and Users told me that's bad powerscaling [especially since MK9 and X is scaling is very bad] to put all of them in the same tier, so i came up with this scaling and char. such as Striker are phisically weaker than the strong Shokans.

 

[Hellbeast1]

I don't really see how, bad scaling is when one scales all the characters to Raiden, not when you scale characters who actually do fight on par with each other the same tier. With that logic it's poor scaling to scale the JL to Superman

 

[Dark649]

I think it is. There are situations like Ermac, who was put againt Liu Kang, later ripped Jax arms and fought Sub-Zero to losing to Striker [later Erron and Ermac will easily deal with Kung Jin, who previously defeated Kotal Kahn and they will lose to Jacqui], then there is Kotal Kahn who easily defeated Rain, overpowered Goro and matched Reiko [who previously defeated Jax and was harmed only by the combined effort of Ermac and Mileena] to losing to Kung Jin. And these are only the starting ones, since there is much more [according to X plot Erron and Ermac are stronger than Kotal].

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

DontTalkDT accepted the storm calc, Mortal Kombat, InFAMOUS and many other verses are going to get some changes

 

[DMUA]

Alright

Who's the best Mortal Kombat boi for The Stranger (Furi)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Oh shit I forgot about him

Idk, because that immortality is quite hard to get around with since no Low 7-B dude goes for incap

Shinnok probably stomps or maybe it's the other way around

 

[Schnee_One]

Does MK qualify and have the horizon?

 

[Hellbeast1]

@Dark the Ermac example is exactly what I was talking about - scaling a mid tier to the top tiers which is honestly ridiculous with logical scaling.

The second example simply supports the concept of Kotal, Erron and Ermac being equivalent in terms of AP.

The Ermac and Milerna thing was when he was Blood God correct?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

The Ermac and Milerna thing was when he was Blood God correct?

IIRC all of them attacked simultaneously which actually incap'd Reiko for a while

The gap between MK 8-Bs and 8-As isn't that big

 

[DMUA]

Does MK qualify and have the horizon?

Yeah, Raiden's storm definitely goes that far out.

 

[Schnee_One]

Cool!

Time for Scorpion vs Salem.....If someone else doesn't wish to make

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Why not Shinnok vs Salem

Then Raiden vs Oz