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Mortal Kombat: One Being is wack
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Current TL would be Low 2-C only. But pre-retcon I believe its still 2-C. The realms are stated to be different in Deception
However post-retcon the One Being would only be Low 2-C since the modern MK timeline has them all seemingly coexist in a large void. So maybe a key split?
Alternatively we could note that the One Being's existence is super weird with all the Titan retcons and note the profile is only talking about Midway era.
Plus the Blood Ocean from MK11 is said to be infinite in depth, which doesn't work unless the overall cosmology is bigger than Low 2-C.
However post-retcon the One Being would only be Low 2-C since the modern MK timeline has them all seemingly coexist in a large void. So maybe a key split?
Alternatively we could note that the One Being's existence is super weird with all the Titan retcons and note the profile is only talking about Midway era.
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I'd say the latter, I don't think the Retcon would make it a whole different continuity. Iirc the MK profiles do not have a Pre/Post Retcon key distinction, so making OB the only one with that would be weird.
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The timeline creation feat for both Kang and Shang Tsung would still be 2-C, as even if we do consider all the realms to fall under a single timeline, many other alt timelines exist that:
1. Do not have their pasts, presents and futures hinge on each other.
2. Can't be accessed normally without portals.
3. Verbatim called timelines.
4. Destroying one timeline means nothing for the others, as Shang Tsung stated. There is no "Sacred Timeline" in the MCU-esque sense in MK.
But of course, this one will be left for another thread in another day.
1. Do not have their pasts, presents and futures hinge on each other.
2. Can't be accessed normally without portals.
3. Verbatim called timelines.
4. Destroying one timeline means nothing for the others, as Shang Tsung stated. There is no "Sacred Timeline" in the MCU-esque sense in MK.
But of course, this one will be left for another thread in another day.
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This is for the realms... I never said the multiverse as a whole is Low 2-C, I said the singular timelines that have realms are.
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Just clarifying in case some people get funny ideas.
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Hmm, a bit weird but I guess you're not wrong. Of you can't prove a different space-time it would just be Low 2-C.
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Given 3 staff approved, can I apply this?
I'd like to apply this note too, but I don't know the verse so I'd like to get a written note from someone who knows the verse so I can add it.
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I'm not sure the Titans weigh in in any way.
There's that tweet about them being above the One Being, but it could just mean they reside in yet a farther plane than the Elder Gods'.
There's that tweet about them being above the One Being, but it could just mean they reside in yet a farther plane than the Elder Gods'.
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Just now seeing this thread. Each realm are infinite in size with their own flow of time.
Which does qualify them as their own universe.
Which does qualify them as their own universe.
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It's relevant, it confirms they're each their own universe. The universe page supports this.
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Yeah if you have a quote about them being seperate spaces it's 2-C.
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So, I always saw a realm as a spiritual reality as much as a physical place. Whether it’s Outworld or Netherrealm or Earth... they all exist on parallel planes. The physical manifestations being the world we know and can comprehend... (9/11)
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They're all separate spaces.
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With everything else Midway era OB would be 2-C.
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Is that a buff?
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Here's the scan in imgur:
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I’m confused, but let me know if you need anything else.
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I don't get it. The Tiering says that multiple High 3-A realms are not 2-C, but still High 3-A to be honest.
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High 3-A is for infinite 3D space but without a notable 4th Dimensional Axis.
Since 4D is a power set of 3D on this site, that is an uncountably infinity. Meaning Low 2-C is = infinite 3A/High 3A in size.
That's why the MIB aliens that have universal marbels are still only Tier 3, since they're within the same temporal plane just bigger.
If the MK realms are separated that means they're apart from each other on a 4th Dimensional level. Which would make them different Low 2-C spaces.
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I do not agree, given there's no evidence of time separation in this case. They seem to be under the same flow of time, just at different speeds.
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They are seperated from each other, which makes them under different temporal sets.
Same temporal direction =/= same space-time component. A multiverse like with DC/Marvel have infinite universes but they're under the same temporal direction as seperate space-time entities.
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So since the downgrade failed this can be closed?
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No. More proofs need to be added on profile if 2-C goes.
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What's already been provided is supplementary.
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No. On the profile the proof is not sufficient. Plus, @Qawsedf234's vote alone is not enough anyway.
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I'm not enough to reject it alone, no. But I am against a downgrade.
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I voted against also 
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I'm also against it but i agree with Strym that if we keep the 2-C, we should rewrite the current justification and give it more cohesion and meaning. Ngl that the current justification is very limited and just bad.
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I'm fine with that
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do we have the supporters listed on the page do it? if no one else is working on it i could do it. (btw im the person who made the void arguments from before)
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Currently no MK supporter is doing something to update the justifications, so if you volunteer to do this, it would be of a great help.
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Will do then!
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You won't before telling here how
Swordsaint456
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do you want me to make it on a google doc then copy and paste my explanation here? or just tell the overall idea without scans?
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Preferably the former. I meant the fact that you can't edit the page yet as this thread is far from done.
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