Minor change to the Durability Negation page

[DontTalkDT]

Currently, the durability negation page states

A good example of ignoring the strength would be a laser, which at negligible attack potency, easily cuts through thick steel sheets.

which, if you ask me, is a terrible example.
Have we ever on any profile considered a regular laser as durability negation? I don't think so.
Really, the idea the example brings up goes more so in the direction of sharp weapons being more effective than blunt ones. Unless the laser is literally so focussed that it can specifically target singular electrons or something like that I don't think we would list it as durability negation.

So I would like to replace that example. I think poison would be good, as it is easy to understand why it circumvents durability and is a real-life thing everyone has a good grasp on.
So how about

A good example of ignoring durability would be poison, as it can kill a person without even needing to wound them.

instead?

 

[KingTempest]

Seems valid

 

[Axxtentacle]

Wholeheartedly agree on this.

 

[joshpiece]

Looks good much better example

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Big agree

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

It's simpler and straight to the point. Agree.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Totally agree, lasers in fiction tend to be used as AP instrad of dura neg.

 

[Elizhaa]

I am cool with the proposals in the OP.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Could we also add a note to the page not to link the Durability Negation page in a character's resistances?

 

[Js250476]

Looks good to me

 

[Thelastmlg]

Could we also add a note to the page not to link the Durability Negation page in a character's resistances?

Hum? Wdym?

 

[Antoniofer]

I'm fine with the changes, simply enough. Also, it may be unecessary, with maybe a note where it states that, only because that an attack ignore durability doesn't mean it will instant kill a the target.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Hum? Wdym?

I mean there are characters that when listing resistances list Durability Negation as one which isn't a thing. Most prominent one from my memory is The Nameless (who for some reason also resists body control?)

 

[Axxtentacle]

I mean there are characters that when listing resistances list Durability Negation as one which isn't a thing. Most prominent one from my memory is The Nameless (who for some reason also resists body control?)

Oh. Resisting durability negation is absolutely a thing, if a move is shown and described in a way that negates durability (like say, just a sword swing that cuts through things no matter what basically) and it doesn't have said effect on you, it can be resisting Durability Negation. Though listing that for resisting a durability-negating thing like Poison I would disagree with.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yeah depends on what the move is, if it is a unamed generic dura neg, is fine to say you reisst it, but if it uses something like soul manip or telekinesis, you'd have resistance to it.

 

[Antoniofer]

Resists Dura Neg its indeed pretty fallacious, as its pretty broad; one thing its resisting an ability that ignore dura, and another is resisting dure neg as a whole.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Maybe we can just put "resistance to getting his heart exploded" or whatever does the unamed dura neg does.

Like we do eith those with "resistance to blunt attacks" like nomu or luffy.

 

[Antoniofer]

That wording sounds weird: either the character is resistent in the sense that the explosion of the heart doesn't cause that much damage (kind of having great endurance, immortality type 2 or simply doesn't need a heart to survive), or its heart its somehow immutable (that its kind of nlf).

Resistent to blunt/piercing damage is simply Durability or Damage Reduction.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Resisting general "durability negation" is weird. You resist one sword that "can cut through anything" or some weirdness along those lines is the only real way you could get it.

Resisting abilities that neg durability by how they function is entirely different though. You don't resist someone blowing up your heart with explosion manip because you resisted the sword.

 

[DontTalkDT]

I can agree that listing just "resistance to durability negation" doesn't make sense. It's too broad.
One could list something more specific and link to durability negation, if there are no better alternatives, but just durability negation in general seems misleading.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I agree with this proposal 100%

 

[DontTalkDT]

I have applied what the main topic of this thread was.

 

[Antoniofer]

I guess we can leave the other issue for another thread, so this thread can be closed.