Minor addition to Sniper (TF2)

[Crabwhale]

That's fair, actually. Still, it should be valid, as it is the only explanation we are given as to why the Jarate has the effects it has. Nothing contradicts this idea, and it still at the very least counts supplementary canon.

Just because nothing contradicts it doesn't mean it's automatically true.

True; it is quite ridiculous how you can't accept something so simple that the actual page literally says "IT IS NOT COMPLICATED!"

First of all, I was moreso referring to the fact that we're debating PISS WARFARE EMPATH MANIP. It's an inherently silly topic y'see, and I couldn't help but make note of that. Second, what you say is true: it is not complicated. It's simply not empath manip lol

Released and written by Valve.

I...never claimed it wasn't valid? Or canon? Just that the advertisement has wording that's too ambiguous to say it's some supernatural piss ability.

According to the official article about the weapon, you're wrong, plain and simple. Unless of course, you have an alternative source that contradicts it; in which case, I will gladly secede.

Yeah I've already said what I had to say. No approval from me.

 

[Da3ggman]

Just because nothing contradicts it doesn't mean it's automatically true.

True, but it does make it more reliable, especially when it is considered supplementary canon, as many of these type of weapon advertisements are.

Unless you go the route of this being a databook-esque statement, but I'll save that for later.

First of all, I was moreso referring to the fact that we're debating PISS WARFARE EMPATH MANIP. It's an inherently silly topic y'see, and I couldn't help but make note of that.

In that case, I apologize. I thought you were talking about how I was debating, rather than the subject.

Second, what you say is true: it is not complicated. It's simply not empath manip lol

"The ability to allow to influence feelings and emotions. Usually associated with mental manipulation, but can sometimes be carried out in other ways (e.g., direct biochemical effects). Controlling emotions can be divided into manipulating positive and negative emotions. Also possible to use the absorption of emotions and their conversion into energy, as well as predicting the enemy's actions by comprehending their emotions."

This is the definition of Empathetic Manipulation. Now, what exactly does Jarate do again? Oh yeah, manipulates the enemies feelings in order to make them lose the will to live via them being splashed by it! By our own definitions, you're wrong

I...never claimed it wasn't valid? Or canon? Just that the advertisement has wording that's too ambiguous to say it's some supernatural piss ability.

Bruh. It literally says that it makes them lose the will to live by being splashed. Does piss in a jar naturally doe that? No. Therefore, it is SUPERNATURAL. A crazy concept, I know, but just hang on for a second.

Sarcasm aside, what more do you want? The article to go into the biochemical processes by which the piss interacts with their brain or something? This should be plenty enough.

Yeah I've already said what I had to say. No approval from me.

I figured as much; can't say I agree, but it is well within your right. Counted.

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

 

[MinecraftHater2011]

I really quite think "losing the will to live" is a bit of an exaggeration. This is an in-universe advert after all.

It's not like this is some special piss that impacts your emotions lol

Little late to this, but Pyro [someone who sees the world drastically different from how your average Joe does] still gets negatively affected by the effects of Jarate (I know some of the other non-reskin, throwable liquids like the Mad Milk or Gas Passer are able to have a similar effect on Pyro, but that's likely because they use a lot of borrowed code from Jarate, to the point where you can earn what are supposed to be Jarate-exclusive achievements with one of them).

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Agreed

 

[Da3ggman]

Little late to this, but Pyro [someone who sees the world drastically different from how your average Joe does] still gets negatively affected by the effects of Jarate (I know some of the other non-reskin, throwable liquids like the Mad Milk or Gas Passer are able to have a similar effect on Pyro, but that's likely because they use a lot of borrowed code from Jarate, to the point where you can earn what are supposed to be Jarate-exclusive achievements with one of them).

Thanks for the extra evidence!

Agreed

Counted

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

yeah I p much agree, was close to saying disagree, however. This seems to be good

Little late to this, but Pyro [someone who sees the world drastically different from how your average Joe does] still gets negatively affected by the effects of Jarate (I know some of the other non-reskin, throwable liquids like the Mad Milk or Gas Passer are able to have a similar effect on Pyro, but that's likely because they use a lot of borrowed code from Jarate, to the point where you can earn what are supposed to be Jarate-exclusive achievements with one of them).

 

[Da3ggman]

yeah I p much agree, was close to saying disagree, however. This seems to be good

Counted

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

 

[ShionAH]

This is definitely something supernatural

 

[Livinmeme]

It made Spy cry like a little boy, who just has been told that his Dog was "put to sleep"
Agree

 

[Da3ggman]

This is definitely something supernatural

It made Spy cry like a little boy, who just has been told that his Dog was "put to sleep"
Agree

Both counted.

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump

(Gotta love how literally a dozen people agree with a CRT, but it can't go through because one admin essentially says "no, that's dumb")

 

[Crabwhale]

(Gotta love how literally a dozen people agree with a CRT, but it can't go through because one admin essentially says "no, that's dumb")

Big Chungus funny moments

 

[Da3ggman]

Big Chungus funny moments