Nah you aren't blind, Fikr commented his choice on the TR discussion thread when i first tagged this fight for more opinions to the thread even though I asked weeks ago. Steez commented this on my page today which is why his vote was added , not sure what this even means but i'll comment the screenshot since I don't have contact information on them.
Manjiro is 18. Taegon looks about 30. If he started from 15, he'd have more experience. Lemme remind you that back then, even goons had fought 1,000 fights as said by Minsik Choi.
That's more than me
You cant exaggerate accuracy. Thats a contradiction in it of itself
You're contradicting yourself even more. For starters his grandpa trained him in karate . He is wearinga Gi not a dobok. He just uses alot of Taekwondo kicks
Well this is just not true
You literally just tried to say im exaggerating but saying a punch is why he wins. This punch does not change this fight this is a lazy answer.
The information you gave regarding to his abilities are accurate however it's usefulness in a middle of a fight is not that awesome as you implied it to be - that's exaggeration.
That doesn't really debunked my argument. Whatever the case that thing never give him an edge in midst combat against anybody. Even a nobody in fighting, like hanma can easily counter his attacks. All his W's are through strength and speed and not skills.
Even if you say that it's not going to hinder Daniel from depending himself from Mikey
I'm thinking of putting the link in it to make it more convincing but didn't cus i thought you all already know how powerful and destructive his punches are but ig i really need had to do it here
Assumptions ≠ Feats. "Ifs" "could'ves" and "mights" are not feats.
He could use it but not damage Taegon Yi or Xiaolang they both didnt even suffer damage from his systema. So to say Mikey will suffer damage when it wasnt even shown in his own manhwa is not valid.
Once again you are trying to connect other characters abilities to Daniels. Johan's copy ability has nothing to do with Little Daniel.
Its for kick accuracy
I know you like Daniel but you're clearly being disingenuous. NOBODY in Lookism has copy feats at age 4. Literally all of them are 17+ . You dont have to downplay , nothing about what i said is "weak" your bias is showing.
"For all we know" is assumption based. And for him to live in a dojo 18 years what sense would it make for him to lose skill as he is clearly stronger with age.
"Logic implies" but to prove your bias point you will ignore all logic just to hope
I will when you provide actual Daniel skill feats rather than bringing other characters up. All he has shown is systema that doesnt really damage opponents, and a spin kick. Johan has nothing to do with Daniel. neither does his 2nd body i can provide the scan that literally says he can't do everything the other can
Can you show statements/feats of him actually being as skilled as his second body?
You can sarcastically downplay it but social influencing is an ability for a reason.
I never said it was disarticulation i said it was similar. He seperated the bone from the joint which is why the arm was dangling, he didnt break his bone in half. And yes he did use brute force thats why it was a bruise surrounding the affected area. Being stronger ≠ Impossible to break.
We're not discussing Lookism as a whole, we're discussing Little Daniel Park and his own personal feats, you've done this three times now lol
Daniel was distracted by a Yawn and was struck twice by Taegon Yi, and Mikey has perception manipulation, it doesnt have to be guaranteed but i bet it happens.
Mikey literally has far more hax for this including reactive power, rage power, and statstics amp and already out stats him to begin with in . You also still havent said a counter for when Mikey paralyzes him with paralysis inducement. Copying ≠ victory He also has resistance to Analytical Prediction so he cant read Mikey attacks and Sophia even said that copying techniques won't win him any fights
Yeah saying Mikey will paralyze him with paralysis inducement and status effect incudement via pressure points is useless in a fight. Literally nobody has told me hoe he stops this. If Mikey paralyzes him (which will happen) he will die.
"Even a nobody in fighting" yeah You're bias is showing. Somehow Hanma is a nobody when he stood toe to toe with Draken twice..Hanma blocked his kick because Mikey underestimated him and his character profile clearly says he has enhanced kinetic vision,
Says who??? All it takes is a instant for Mikey to break one of his limbs or paralyze him. Im starting to question your knowledge on these characters
Dude . Mikey scales in the megajoules as well and has extreme pain tolerance, idc about a punch Daniel doesnt even have the AP or durability advantage. You're the 2nd person who keeps using other characters to make points about Daniel
It's not going to work here because this Daniel is massively much more stronger than him.Yeah saying Mikey will paralyze him with paralysis inducement and status effect incudement via pressure points is useless in a fight. Literally nobody has told me hoe he stops this. If Mikey paralyzes him (which will happen) he will die.
Bias to hanma? to TR? lol u don't know me. I'm talking about his skills, his skills is nothing impressive, all he has is a strength.
It's the fact that he fight ppl much stronger than Mikey and not of the amount of Ws he took.
Try me then lol and again that ain't gonna happen cause for it to work he would needs to be stronger than his opponent. Though you can say that the paralysis thingy is going to work on him,temporarily, but to say it's going to have an effect on him throughout the fight letting Mikey beating his ass without even depending himself is a pure stupidity.
My bad for not being specific here take a look at this, With this. it's not weird to say that his punches is just gonna tickle Daniel l.
Im not sure you know how wiki works. Mikey scales to 1.86 Megajoules, Daniel is 961 Kilojoules, not only will it hurt him, it will eventually kill him.
Ignored every point i made just now, are you only here to troll?
So for Mikey its about Ws , for Daniel its not. And Once again. He has one fight and he didnt even win it.
Yeah you clearly dont know how wiki battles work
It's still part of his post training sophia so it's valid
I already did just not directly. The only reason he is able to toe to toe against Draken is because of his strength and not his skills. Also stop addressing this cus ur argument is base on misunderstanding.
Doesn't matter if he lost its the fact that he faught ppl much stronger than Mikey
Idk what you are talking I'm using it cause those feats are still part of his post training sophia, do you mean to say i should ignore it?
Yes it makes him different but different doesnt mean victory. Daniel has never fought anyone who can paralyze him or corrupt his vision and hearing
Systema is not a power, its a russian fighting style through physical force. I dont have to prove anything, thats like me saying mikey not reacting to Kakucho or Draken punches means the same will happen to Daniel. Thats now how fights or wikibattles work.
I "love" to clarify the difference because there is a clear difference. Which is literally why they have separate profiles.
He has a weaker copy ability than 2nd body Daniel. Please provide scan of them saying this for Little daniel as well because thats headcanon.
Not sure what this even means, but nothing you will ever say will convince me a 4 year old Mikey is the same skill level as an 18 year old when he clearly used over 7 fighting styles at this age and only used karate at age 4
just gone drop this off. Hate it had to he you man . Definitely assumption basedFor all we KNOW is the very opposite of assumption based
So basically he has no skill feats or actual feats and its all assuming, gotcha
It's literally stated as his special skill but divineaura44 says its not so i guess its not
You can't catch me if im already higher and have REACTIVE POWER to develop everytime my opponent does. Yikes
You literally contradicted yourself this entire reply. Daniel wins because he fought "stronger" people(who he never actually wins against). But you just said Draken relies on strength which is literally no different than being punched into a wall(relying on strength to do so). Both are strength feats and not skill. You are clearly not objective enough to debate this fight.
I think you are misunderstanding my argument here even though he lost he is able to damage taegon and is able to tank a punch from UI Daniel without losing consciousness making him much more stronger and durable than Mikey and the duck you mean by draken bro lmao did you forget the reason why i believe he would win against Mikey?
Again, what im telling you is all of that is irrelevant. Taegon was stomped by Eli who scaled to 1.06 megajoules at that point in time. That punch caused the same amount of damage as Vascos kick, which only scaled to 961 kilojoules. Mikey is 1.86 megajoules. Which means HE is stromger and more durable, if you are going to keep ignoring the VsBattleWiki rules i will just start ignoring you
I can't forget something I never knew. You havent made any real points man.
Yes it makes him different but different doesnt mean victory. Daniel has never fought anyone who can paralyze him or corrupt his vision and hearing
Systema is not a power, its a russian fighting style through physical force. I dont have to prove anything, thats like me saying mikey not reacting to Kakucho or Draken punches means the same will happen to Daniel. Thats now how fights or wikibattles work.
I "love" to clarify the difference because there is a clear difference. Which is literally why they have separate profiles.
He has a weaker copy ability than 2nd body Daniel. Please provide scan of them saying this for Little daniel as well because thats headcanon.
Not sure what this even means, but nothing you will ever say will convince me a 4 year old Mikey is the same skill level as an 18 year old when he clearly used over 7 fighting styles at this age and only used karate at age 4
just gone drop this off. Hate it had to he you man . Definitely assumption based
So basically he has no skill feats or actual feats and its all assuming, gotcha
It's literally stated as his special skill but divineaura44 says its not so i guess its not
You can't catch me if im already higher and have REACTIVE POWER to develop everytime my opponent does. Yikes
still no counter to paralysis inducement either
.So are you going to ignore the "tank a punch from UI Daniel part" ? You can't spam wiki rules here when those feats are literally part of the key you are using lmao
I did you just decided to ignore it. I doubt you check the link I've send to you lol
The profiles are edited wrong and literally every scan you see is 2nd body Daniel. Where is the feat of his systema showing durability negation? What fight did this happen in?
Lol he physically weaker, lesss athletic, less flexible and acrobatic. Thats only the start i digress
"He has to land that you know that right" so now Daniel dont be hit somehow? Sounds like he has no counter. Meaning it will definitely happen to him. All it takes is a pressure point attack which mikey ONLY aims to attacks, which goes back to his training kicking the bottle tops.And I can see why. You still have to prove it first.
I can't see your scan, I have to change my device. I'll respond to that when I'm on my phone.
Ok so you refuse to prove Daniel doesn't scale in skill? I'll accept that as a concession thank you
Oh so you agree it's not? I'll take that as a concession too!
Not if mine's is way better and has me grow faster.
He has to land that, you do know that right?
Its like im debating a 4 year old toddler. Tanking a punch ≠ victory when he is AT A DISADVANTAGE. Whats the point of even having rules if kids will just ignore them when its against their wishes for their character to win
Dude for the 3rd time the feat is IRRELEVANT . Notice NOBODY who commented used that bs besides you. It means nothing in this fight unless you are implying Daniels profile was made incorrectly and the whole fight be shut down since he should be small building(which he isn't).
I feel like you are forgetting the fact that the only Wincon Mikey has against Daniel is AP and Paralysis via AP but now that I've already countered it by proving his dura are too much for his AP to handle... but hey keep believing you are winningIts like im debating a 4 year old toddler. Tanking a punch ≠ victory when he is AT A DISADVANTAGE. Whats the point of even having rules if kids will just ignore them when its against their wishes for their character to win
Are you sure you should be saying that to me? Did u check the profile properly? The second key is literally about Post Sophia Training then the third key is about Post Gun Training or unless you meant to say those feat are not included in it ig if that's then case you win
lmao
Already proven his profile is innacurate and he only used systema so far. So Mikey>Daniel i skill.I feel like you are forgetting the fact that the only Wincon Mikey has against Daniel is AP and Paralysis via AP but now that I've already countered it by proving his dura are too much for his AP to handle... but hey keep believing you are winning
You just dont know how the debates work i cant blame you for your lack of knowledge. Just stop talkingAre you sure you should be saying that to me? Did u check the profile properly? The second key is literally about Post Sophia Training then the third key is about Post Gun Training or unless you meant to say those feat are not included in it ig if that's then case you win
Tanking a punch does not making him comparable in durablity or AP to Gun or 2nd Body Daniel. He was stomped by both
No i know exactly what you were talking about you just dont seem to understand that those feats mean nothing towards giving him the edge in the fight. All it says is he has pain toleranceI should have known when most of you arguments are literally base on misunderstanding although it's my fault for not being specific but that's me assuming you already knew what I'm talking about
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It looks like I'm right. You didn't check their profile properly
Prove it scans. I'm posting scan after scan after scan and all you do is tag a lookism chapter
AP/Dura - 1.86 Megajoules > 961 Kilojoules
Laughing doesn't invalidate the information i^^^
You not even debating no more you trolling atp.It looks like I'm right. You didn't check their profile properly
Notice nobody here is little daniel. Once again for the 5th time using other characters skills to prove a wrong point. You even jumped to an entirely different manhwa. What is the point of showing me young hansoo and Johan feats?!?! Bro leave me alone til you learn how to properly debate
Notice nobody here is little daniel. Once again for the 5th time using other characters skills to prove a wrong point. You even jumped to an entirely different manhwa. What is the point of showing me young hansoo and Johan feats?!?! Bro leave me alone til you learn how to properly debate
Do you see me bringing up Izana or Takemichi when discussing Mikey feats? You have mentioned what 2nd Body Daniel, Johan, Gun, Manager Kim, can do..... everybody but the person who actually fighting. I didnt even mention that Daniel also is lacking in the Lifting Strength category which confirms his arm or leg will 100% be broken, so he even fighting with 1 arm and will be paralyzed. Its a L, just accept it.
I'm literally the only person in this debate thats actually a supporter of BOTH verses and created over half of the profiles for both verses, while most of you only support Lookism. No TR supporters are even commenting yet
Insult me all you wish it won't change the results, im just trying to help you understand why those feats dont mean anything and you keep bringing them up.
Please show the scan that proves Daniel is comparable to Gun or UI Daniel, tanking an attack does not make you comparable in statistics. Takemichi has tanked hits from everybody yet doesnt have the same AP as them. Small Daniel is comparable to Vasco before the wrecking ball feat. He's not stronger than Eli, Hudson or Warren so he does not have the same AP as them. Which once again. Makes that feat irrelevant to the fight, unless you can show Small Daniel actually hurting either of these charactersbut i can't cus i know it's my fault for not giving a specific details
"Character A is City level, and Character B was able to survive attacks from or harm Character A. However Character A was holding back, restricting themselves, not putting their all into their attacks or was in a weakened state during the fight, then it is not safe to asses that Character B has City level AP or durability. As this would clearly indicate that the two do not have comparable power and that one is much superior to the other."
That's cuz the verse's characters are lower in power level :V
By skill or by strength? If it's by strength then Daniel would be in the megajoule range and make this thread a stomp.
"Another way powerscaling works is through attributing feats a character performs to other characters who are equal or greater than that character as well. So if Character A is capable of lifting a car. And Character B has proven to be stronger than Character A, then it is safe to say that Character B can also lift a car. Although a misuse or over extrapolation of powerscaling can lead to grossly inaccurate ratings, a logical and moderate use can be both helpful and essential to properly determining one's power. As without powerscaling and going purely by feats, many characters would end up being "Unknown" in stats or be lowballed to absurd extents. Such as Whis being weaker than Piccolo going by pure feats. Sosuke Aizen being weaker than Ulquiorra Cifer. Or characters who have consistently been said and shown to have power on par with Planet level beings be rated as Wall level."
