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can i see the bakugo scene
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Why are his explosions weaker than his own punches, that makes no sense. It is a downgrade you've gotten rid of his 8-C+ rating, also what dura negation? What is happening here, I feel like I'm missing something here.It's technically not a downgrade since he has dura neg but I asked like twice and no one said they disagreed. Plus like 3 other people in this thread agreed.
The explosions are literally 9A.I thought you were just gonna put he can ignore conventional durability, not downgrade him.
His Physical AP is in his striking strength (we agreed on that a while ago in the main discussion thread). Bakugo can harm 5% with punches and kicks and 5% can take his explosions with less visible damage. I have no clue why his punches being stronger than his explosions is a problem when he can A. alter their strength and B. His explosions and punches literally rival each other in power at one point in the story.Why are his explosions weaker than his own punches, that makes no sense. It is a downgrade you've gotten rid of his 8-C+ rating, also what dura negation? What is happening here, I feel like I'm missing something here.
Shouldn't his physical AP stay though?
Here is the scene.can i see the bakugo scene
No I thought we agreed on that for UNKNOWN ratings, he should have the rating if it's something we can actually list. I never agreed to anything like that.His Physical AP is in his striking strength (we agreed on that a while ago in the main discussion thread). Bakugo can harm 5% with punches and kicks and 5% can take his explosions with less visible damage. I have no clue why his punches being stronger than his explosions is a problem when he can A. alter their strength and B. His explosions and punches literally rival each other in power at one point in the story.
Well it wasn't there when I got to it. His AP justifications were just explosion.No I thought we agreed on that for UNKNOWN ratings, he should have the rating if it's something we can actually list. I never agreed to anything like that.
By that logic we should lower Endeavor's rating as well, since he can lower the strength of his flames against normal people. Why not go all the damn way and lower Bakugo's rating to 9-B or 9-C in this case? What's the point of rating his weaker explosions, we should just rate his normal blast which should equal his physical AP.
Dura negation due to heat. How else would you explain causing AM pain or harming characters with explosions too small for their tier. We literally see him harm characters by burning and several times it's characters he shouldn't. This is literally the logic we have for Shouto and Endeavor as they harm character's above them by temperature.The hell are you talking about, what dura negation please explain.
Please give me ever single instant of dura negation, also tell me how hot his explosions are. I want you to tell me, please.
Now then, please tell me how long the heat from Nitroglycerin last. How long does the heat stay there and how fast does the heat transfer from air to skin?Dura negation due to heat. How else would you explain causing AM pain or harming characters with explosions too small for their tier. We literally see him harm characters by burning and several times it's characters he shouldn't. This is literally the logic we have for Shouto and Endeavor as they harm character's above them by temperature.
Nitroglycerin explosions give off 5000 degrees celsius when they explode
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i dont think thats spit
some of the ground got sent flying from the impact
That wasn't his spit, that was the stuff that was kicked up as a result of the throw. Even if it was? That doesn't mean he damaged him. It just means that the speed was great enough for spittle to fly out of his mouth.0008-021.png
I can see him Bakugo's spit in that panel as well, and why you ignored Deku blocking Bakugo's right hook?
I guess the only other logical argument is that since it’s stated Bakugo’s blasts are Like Nitroglycerin not exactly they possibly could not be as hot But that can’t be proven that could also make dura neg via heat kinda weirdNow then, please tell me how long the heat from Nitroglycerin last. How long does the heat stay there and how fast does the heat transfer from air to skin?
Unless your imply the majority of the verse has heat resistant that's close to the surface of the sun?
Therefir is suggesting 8-C+ because of Deku's statement (Even tho it's really vague.)Why does spit matter here?
What rating do people suggest Base Izuku to have, I don't really care so I'm neutral about any rating. I'd like to see everyone's opinion and reasoning.
The heat is quite obviously sufficient to burn characters and objects. I'd be happy to get you scans of that.Now then, please tell me how long the heat from Nitroglycerin last. How long does the heat stay there and how fast does the heat transfer from air to skin?
Unless your imply the majority of the verse has heat resistant that's close to the surface of the sun?
My arguments are:Why does spit matter here?
What rating do people suggest Base Izuku to have, I don't really care so I'm neutral about any rating. I'd like to see everyone's opinion and reasoning.
He can slam Bakugo into the ground hard enough to make him complain about the pain, if he is saying "Urk...!" That clearly should be more than stunning him.
He can block Bakugo's right hook.
He considers his 5% only a small increase in power compared to his body's level.
He can survive slamming himself into a wall with a 5% jump. 5% Deku's jumps are strong enough to hurt Bakugo in the Final Exams Arc.
He can block Bakugo's right hook
So he can take hits from Bakugo physically, which are High 8-C, yet gets hurt by small explosions. Something is off here.Because he read his move and grabbed it instead of just letting it hit him. When Bakugo hits Deku directly with his "right hook", Deku is pretty clearly hurt by it.
Also base Deku can be hurt by pretty weak explosions from Bakugo. The idea that he's 8-C+ in his base state here doesn't make a lot of sense.
Well, I'm 90% sure Bakugo doesn't have High 8-C striking strength at the time of their fight there. That would make him physically as good or better than his largest, building-destroying explosions.So he can take hits from Bakugo physically, which are High 8-C, yet gets hurt by small explosions. Something is off here.
Those explosions are even smaller than the ones Bakugo used against Uraraka.Also base Deku can be hurt by pretty weak explosions from Bakugo. The idea that he's 8-C+ in his base state here doesn't make a lot of sense.
Yeah, and we currently rate Ochaco at that time to be 9-A+.Those explosions are even smaller than the ones Bakugo used against Uraraka.
Also it is me or the normal explosions that Bakugo used against Uraraka were bigger than the ones he used against 5% Deku.Btw here's a list of Bakugo's normal attacks
The multiple interpretations of Deku's statement would be:I'm going to drop the Bakugo thing for now, because it's just a distraction at this point.
1: Izuku states that 5% is a small increase from his base. "Given the level my body's at, even when I control it... it only gives a small increase in power"
Arguments against this say the statement is somehow vague, if this is vague then that means there are multiple interpretations. Can someone tell what those are?
I don't think the Bakugo stuff is evidence, Bakugo was holding back that entire fight so the match wouldn't get stopped. He was caught off guard by Izuku's attack, and didn't visible show any signs of actual damage.
That's genuinely debatable because the blasts used against Deku either didn't visibly harm him, burned him and in a few cases were clipped so we don't know the full size.Also it is me or the normal explosions that Bakugo used against Uraraka were bigger than the ones he used against 5% Deku.
Do the size of his explosions even matter?
The size of his explosions probably does matter. The only reason his smaller explosions do damage is because of the temperature.Also it is me or the normal explosions that Bakugo used against Uraraka were bigger than the ones he used against 5% Deku.
Do the size of his explosions even matter?
But the gap is indeed small, 5% Deku is Mach 2 while 8% is baseline Supersonic+ (Mach 2.5).And he already considers the gap between 5 and 8% to be small, despite 8% being way faster than 5%, to the point where he's Supersonic+ and Bakugo can't even dodge.
Bakugo couldn't hurt Kirishima with his explosions until his hardening started to wear off, the temperature had nothing to do with that. Kirishima just couldn't keep himself that durable for long. Him making his skin harder wouldn't change his resistant to heat, since it's apparent dura negation.The size of his explosions probably does matter. The only reason his smaller explosions do damage is because of the temperature.