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Not necessarily disagreeing but he did attribute his ability to react to Deku telegraphing his kicks.
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MHA AP and Durability Upgrades
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That's a good point, but Deku's statement is still vague, and is contradicted by other things.
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Yeah but every time Kirishima got hit he was smoking and his clothes were burning.
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And? He wasn't taking any damage, did I say something wrong?
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Which is exactly the reason the size of his blasts matter. Otherwise Sports Festival Uraraka is High 8C.
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He could only hurt Kirishima because of the heat of his attacks. You can clearly see smoke coming off of him.
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I misread your comment nvm
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He couldn't hurt him before that though, his explosions didn't injure him in the slightest until his hardening started wearing off.
What's your point here.
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It's very clear he was taking damage.
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Before that, am I not taking right or something?
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The point is, his smaller explosions only affect people because of how hot they are. They shouldn't be High 8-C.
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Kirishima, quite literally, got fried.
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The hell are you on about, do you not understand me. What the hell does this have to do with anything I said?
Before his hardening went down, seriously how much do I need to repeat that?
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All I'm getting from this discussion is that Uraraka is not only resistant to the temperature of the Sun's surface, but she is also more durable than Base Deku, Hardened Kirishima, Dark Shadow, Todoroki's ice, and even Deku's 5%.
And that this somehow discredits 8-C+ Deku.
And that this somehow discredits 8-C+ Deku.
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Kirishima was practically getting fried. There's stuff in canon confirming that Bakugo's bigger blasts>smaller explosions as well.
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And once again your not making sense, what does that have to do with my original statement that Bakugo couldn't originally hurt Kirishima, he had to wait until his Quirk started to weaken. I never brought up the size of his explosions. I don't understand what's happening in this thread right now.
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I don't understand this discussion too, Damage is using a Wall level sized explosion to discredit 8-C+ Deku, even though those same Wall level sized explosions can hurt High 8-C characters as well.
If we want to continue with this discussion, then stop using Bakugo's explosions as an argument because they are not consistent in the slightest.
If we want to continue with this discussion, then stop using Bakugo's explosions as an argument because they are not consistent in the slightest.
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The only reason they hurt 8-C level characters is because of the heat mainly. But I'm fine with moving on from this.
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Also wait Kirishima is Tier 8 via scaling to Bakugo, doesn't that mean he's downgraded to 9-A+ as well?
Also are we saying Bakugo was going all out against Uraraka?
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He can damage Bakugo himself I think. So I think he'd still scale.
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He still scales to 8C from being able to oneshot 1 point bots, tear through the zero point bots armour and scratch Bakugo.
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Why does Bakugo have Tier 8 dura though?
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I don't believe the 1 Pointers are even 9-A+, that calc shouldn't scale to them.
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Did we forget he withstands multiple 5% to 8% level attacks? Even attacks from a heavily weakened All Might (which damaged 5% Deku) is something he withstood.
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His durability scales to his full strength blasts as he withstands the force on himself. Plus he'd still be High 8C due to scaling from 5% Deku who can break attacks that can harm him.
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That's fine the Zero point bot still has armour that can withstand it's attacks and he still scratched Bakugo.
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He also tanked his own grenade bracer in Heroes Rising
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I won't deny I was being a little sarcastic there, I should apologies for that since there's no way you could've been able to tell.
Sorry for derailing, that's 100 percent my fault.
Sorry for derailing, that's 100 percent my fault.
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It's fine really.
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Back on track.
I don't believe this calc should scale to the 1 Pointers, since this sheet of metal came from a Zero Pointer. Also I think the calc is slightly inflated, the explosion's radius doesn't appear to extend that far. Since we can see the explosion above Todoroki's head and it doesn't go that far, and there's a small gap next to his head and the blast doesn't appear to reach all the way to the end of the screen.
I don't believe this calc should scale to the 1 Pointers, since this sheet of metal came from a Zero Pointer. Also I think the calc is slightly inflated, the explosion's radius doesn't appear to extend that far. Since we can see the explosion above Todoroki's head and it doesn't go that far, and there's a small gap next to his head and the blast doesn't appear to reach all the way to the end of the screen.
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I agree.
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No I think Rusty has a point. The zero point bot has shown High 8C+ levels of power iirc and the one point bot's best showing is casual wall level iirc. We also know they have varying durability based on how Kirishima dealt with them (he one shots the one pointers but it seems to take him at least two to deal with the 3 pointer)
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This might not be the thread for it, but I think part of the issue from this is is how we scale Bakugo's durability fully from his most powerful explosions, so that anyone who causes even a bit of damage to Bakugo has striking strength equal to his most powerful explosions. I am almost positive that without that bit of scaling chain, the striking strength for a lot of characters would be a lot lower.
Also, and I may be misinterpreting this, but this calc is getting the width of the explosion to be 70 meters across, yeah? The same explosion that appears to be as wide as the street is.
Is the width of the street really 70 meters across? That seems rather high.
Also, and I may be misinterpreting this, but this calc is getting the width of the explosion to be 70 meters across, yeah? The same explosion that appears to be as wide as the street is.
Is the width of the street really 70 meters across? That seems rather high.
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It is kind of weird that we scale characters to his full power blasts but 5% Deku has a High 8C durability calc and from my understanding he is taking the full power of his blasts on himself.
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I don't think the recoil would be quite equal to the full power.
When Bakugo first used his Grenadier Bracer against Deku, he could have killed him if he hit him directly.
But when Deku uses the Grenadier Bracer himself, he just gets some pain in shoulder from the recoil.
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So are you proposing Bakugoiu's durability would downscale? How far would he downscale btw?
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I'm not proposing anything specific at this time, just raising a concern of mine.
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