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MCU Thor Storm Calcs
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It's just that the MCU writers are writers, not scientiest or military experts.
Plus as mentioned the original 1 million k figure is a large over estimation of a Neutron Star's heat. Thor's one would be significantly lower than that number.
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Well at least the 6-B cap still remains and we're looking at an upgrade for Thor to "At most 6-C" if we can't scale his KE-based Endgame Storm calc to his physical self which was done uber-casually.
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Did Friday mean the spire itself would crack or the city? Because the latter one fits in better with her next sentence about the death toll still being in the millions.
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Yeah, that part has always bothered me, even if the number was still rising. 5 gigatons+ seems way too low for that power surge, even visually speaking
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Yeah I think it makes more sense if FRIDAY is talking about the city cracking, rather than the spire cracking. The force from Thor is the same either way, its just distributed more efficiently when Iron Man cap's the other end.
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Lol can the snap value be upgraded as well wasn't the last number before it cut like 5800 megaton snap should be 5.8 gigatons instead of 5.2(tbh it's probably much higher maybe even 6+ but I digress)
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I checked the video at x0.25 speed, and it looks to be about 5200+ megatons
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This
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It definitely got above 5.2
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No, it's explicitly the spire mentioned to crack, right after Tony asks what would happen to the vibranium spire if Thor hit it hard enough.
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Yup. But I didn't see 5.8 gigatons anywhere
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I think what it is is probably actually just 5.336 but I'm going to go back to the movie
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But why would cracking the spire effect the damaged the meteor would do? Its the thrusters and the mass are doing the work, not the spire.
I think fragmenting the city into fast moving, smaller chunks makes more contextually sense than cracking the spire.
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The dwarves likely tried to keep the neutron star as true-to-form as possible for whatever desirable qualities it had as a power source/forge, or they likely wouldn't have bothered. Plus, using the melting point is an extreme lowball, especially given how fast the Uru melts. Even with a forge running at melting point of a metal, it still takes a good while to actually heat if from room temperature and get it to melt if held at its melting point, not the handful of minutes it took for the Uru to melt
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It only takes Iron about five minutes to melt in most forges for low carbon yields.
That's not really a solid justification for using a temperature 20 times higher than Uru's stated melting point. Especially when it took at least three in-universe minutes for the metal to melt.
EDIT: I forgot to take in consideration heating up the forge. Though in this case the star beam can instantly do that while normal forges need to take time to reach that temperature.
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Foundries are often operating at temperatures in excess of the melting point and also have high ambient temperatures, meaning the metal reaches melting point faster. From what we can see, the ambient temperature of Nidavellir when the forge was restarted seemed pretty cold. And iirc the beam from the neutron star wasn't directly heating the Uru, it hit a receptacle that provided power to the smelter
And I'm still not trusting the same WoG had a never-before-seen power surge of cosmic proportions measured in the gigatons
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It's not the same WoG, because neither are WoG. The Uru statement comes from a technical manual and the other is a in-universe measurement. If anything both are actually much harder pieces of evidence than WoG because they occur in licensed marterial.
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All the same, still one statistic put in without much thought that makes me doubt whether the other statistic had much thought put into it, either
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No it's recalculated at High 6-B and that's an outlier
In fairness that's vague
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Low 6-B+ is the recalc version tho?
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Wait I thought the Low 6-B Tesseract was the original but then we got the High 6-B afterwards. The comments seem to imply that
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Is that KLOL calc? Because it turned out to be 7-B
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The original was High 6-B, the recalced version Spino made was Low 6-B+ afaik.
Tho we could always try doingit again I suppose
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That's the neuron star feat, not Thanos crushing the tesseract
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50 thousand kelvin instead of 1 million kelvin
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But it's not. It's dismissing a statement because you don't feel it aligns with our fan calcs, which isn't really how that works.
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Mfw I read this knowing full well I'm going to keep brushing off and disputing statements
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Also I'm dismissing them cuz I think they're kinda crap on their own, even without them not aligning with fan calcs. A "power surge of cosmic proportions, no one's ever seen anything like it" shouldn't be getting dwarfed by the yield of a normal observable solar flare
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I feel like you can't just dismiss what we don't like because they don't get big numbers. Why trust the team to correctly know the temperature of a pulsar but not the same team when they say Uru's melting point is 50,000k?
Why trust them to make accurate Storm clouds that yield results in the town busting to Mount Everest busting ranges but not when they give a explicit number for the energy released from a IG snap?
You have to take the good with the bad. You can't only have the good.
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Updated my Jotunheim calc for the third time (did it initially while on 5 hours of sleep). I'm sure I got something wrong again
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On another note, would using the Grand Canyon x 100 size affect the running speed of Asgardians?
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Bump
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Are there any more calc's we're still waiting on?
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