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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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Peter: [gives away some glasses]
The timeline:
Oliver_de_jesus
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How the hell will they do this canon for 616?
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Meet the fantastic 4. They have powers. Oh no! The evil doctor doom is attacking. How will they stop him???
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When you think about it, the next Avengers can give us tons of cameos
And then there's me, who just wants to see Moon Knight interacting with the others
And then there's me, who just wants to see Moon Knight interacting with the others
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MFTL Combat & Reaction MCU
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Apparently circumnavigating the entirety of a planet is OPMFTL Combat & Reaction MCU
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Khonsu be like:
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Did anything ever get decided on with this Awakened Thor calc?
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Apparently the what if trailer got leaked
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Things that caught my attention more than the others:
- Hela the queen is back, can't wait to see what will happen with her, maybe she will get the more mystical powers of her comics version
- Another Variant of Peter who seems to join Ego...nope, definitely not problematic at all
- Thanos fighting...visibly Captain and something happening with the Time Stone. Maybe Captain will actually get time powers?
- Wanda
- The end of the trailer...did I just see Odin with his two eyes? Meaning we might finally see Prime Odin?! And apparently, he will fight the Mandarin (I know the Rings give him powers but how the hell will Wenwu be able to fight ODIN? Unless Odin's seriously restraining himself)
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Plot armor
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Just saw the What If Season 2 trailer. The Ten Rings can restrain Odin and block blasts from Gungnir. They should scale to him.
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We should wait for the actual episode to come out or at least more scenes before making scaling, the scene shows the Rings blocking blasts but Odin seems almost casual and very quickly and easily overpowers them when they try to restrain him
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Also it’s kinda weird the mandarin would be facing prime Odin since I’m pretty sure there fight would have to be after the frost giants attempted colonization of earth
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The Giant's attack happened in 965 AD according to the MCU wiki and the Mandarin has been alive for 1000 years if not more so it's entirely possible for the two to have fought before the attack. Plus, it's an alternate timeline so there will be differences with the main MCU
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not canon, not scale 
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I guess but even then he should have gray hair. True
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I'd imagine Snyder Cultists going, "sUpErmAn fAst gg" & "sUpErmAn blItz gg"
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Reed: Wanda, Superman can destroy you in an instant with his powers.
Wanda: What powers?
(Superman is suddenly powerless, then gets one-shotted by an energy blast).
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Nick Fury: Wanda, I'm here to talk to you about the Avengers Initiative
Wanda: What Avengers?
Nick Fury: ...
Wanda: What Avengers?
Nick Fury: ...
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Metro Man beats them both
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I recently saw Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Quite long after the rest of you, I'm betting. 2 questions:
1. This film claims its universe is Earth-616, the same as the comics. What is our stance regarding this?
2. What Versus Debating conclusions were made as a result of this work?
1. This film claims its universe is Earth-616, the same as the comics. What is our stance regarding this?
2. What Versus Debating conclusions were made as a result of this work?
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Jesus I didn't realize how ******* long that OP for crt was we put together lol
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I've seen stuff more stupid than this but this is still stupid. Unless Wanda goes for regular attacks, in which case yes, Superman has the time to very easily blitz her, he's dead. And this comes from a hard fan of the Snyder Cut
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On the opposite side though...
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It doesn't seem like any of the CRTs mention the matter about both Marvel comics & MCU claiming to be in Earth-616, which seems kinda contradictory.
Also, about America Chavez: Her profile has:
Acausality (Type 4; She's not bound by the typical rules of the multiverse and operates on a different system compared to even Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange)
Limited Resistance to Dream Manipulation (America cannot dream as there are no other versions of her across the multiverse)
I am concerned about these justifications, because:
Her Acausality doesn't explain what the rules of the multiverse are that she's unbound from, nor does it clarify how Scarlet Witch & Doctor Strange are unbound by those rules in a different way.
If her being 1-of-a-kind across the multiverse & hence not dreaming because dreams are your alternate universe selves is all that's known to how she's exceptional to the rules, I think that her Acausality should explain that.
Horrifying as it is to revisit, do we consider what Scarlet Witch did to Mr. Fantastic Deconstruction?
Also, about America Chavez: Her profile has:
Acausality (Type 4; She's not bound by the typical rules of the multiverse and operates on a different system compared to even Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange)
Limited Resistance to Dream Manipulation (America cannot dream as there are no other versions of her across the multiverse)
I am concerned about these justifications, because:
Her Acausality doesn't explain what the rules of the multiverse are that she's unbound from, nor does it clarify how Scarlet Witch & Doctor Strange are unbound by those rules in a different way.
If her being 1-of-a-kind across the multiverse & hence not dreaming because dreams are your alternate universe selves is all that's known to how she's exceptional to the rules, I think that her Acausality should explain that.
Horrifying as it is to revisit, do we consider what Scarlet Witch did to Mr. Fantastic Deconstruction?
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Not sure but she already has that
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Kinda hard to tell. It could be deconstruction but then you remember that wanda should have no difficulty tearing someone stretchy like Reed apart like that.
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Because superior Magical AP to his Durability?
Yeah, but noting additional methods & justifications is worthwhile in my opinion.
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