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I know that's what I said in my edit
The fact that each timeline is referred to as a universe by the watcher is proof of 2-C itself
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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The fact that each timeline is referred to as a universe by the watcher is proof of 2-C itself
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Ancient said that Strange was the greatest of the wizards back in EG so time to scale him to her anyway.
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So we apparently have a Low 2-C Supreme Strange folks. Great (annoyed tone)...why I am saying this, this IS great!
When you think about it, this must be the darkest shit we've seen in the MCU so far (excluding Daredevil and Jessica Jones of course), IW felt like child's play after this
When you think about it, this must be the darkest shit we've seen in the MCU so far (excluding Daredevil and Jessica Jones of course), IW felt like child's play after this
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Yeah considering we actually had to watch someone's death loop over and over I'd agree though I suppose that happened in doctor strange anyways
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Strange Supreme sensing the Watcher would be Enhanced Senses or Extrasensory Perception?
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Extrasensory perception most likely
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Who else scales to Low 2-C strange? The Ancient One is probably 2-C While the Watcher is implied to be Low 2-C. Would Wanda scale?
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Unless we base the scaling entirely on the "stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme" statement, Wanda has nothing to scale from for now so...
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That's the question but yeah nah this is another timeline so she shouldn't have any reason to at all atm
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Strange survived the end of his universe in what's apparently a small pocket at the end, would it be pcoket reality?
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Wasn't that just his barrier he put out to hold back the destruction of the universe, everything around him was just destroyed so I don't think that would count as a pocket reality
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It felt like a barrier yes, wasn't sure really sure about it
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When you say strange should have buffs and be 6-C but then what if gives you 2-C strange
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I would note Fandome is coming up
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Will it apply to the main Strange though?
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Found a render for Strange supreme btw, downloaded it for when the profile will be ready
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Yep I'm excited to see what we'll be getting there
Unfortunately no since each strange in this episode is still different fundamentally from our main strange counterpart and has a completely different reasons for becoming Dr.Stange
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I know Black Adam, Aquaman 2 and the Flash all have confirmed streams and we could be seeing stuff about the Black Canary film which has been confirmed.
The Batman is a thing tho so mint
New page tho
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This strange should however have a the abilities we associate with the normal doctor strange weirdly enough even of they don't scale we see he's had the same training
This is peak hopefully WB does those justice and really blows it out the park (The Batman and Flash in particular have my interest)
This is peak hopefully WB does those justice and really blows it out the park (The Batman and Flash in particular have my interest)
For sure
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Tier for Doctor Strange Supreme will probably be "9-B physically, at least 7-B, up to 3-A via Magic"
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2-C or Low 2-C?
Also, Strange Supreme was able to drag the other Strange to his timeline
Also, Strange Supreme was able to drag the other Strange to his timeline
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Low 2-C for timeline destruction
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That would give us "9-B physically, at least 7-B (Fought evenly with the other Doctor Strange, who would be comparable to Sacred Timeline Strange after he defeated Dormammu), up to Low 2-C (Accidentally caused the destruction of his timeline after absorbing his counterpart and was able to briefly slow it down)"
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"And ultimately survive said destruction"
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Yep, though survival was through his forcefield so his durability would be "9-B physically (Can endure punches from his Good counterpart), at least City level (Capable of blocking magical attacks from his Good self), up to Low 2-C via forcefields (Survived the destruction of his timeline by creating a forcefield around himself)"
The dragging the Good counterpart in his timeline stuff would be BFR?
The dragging the Good counterpart in his timeline stuff would be BFR?
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Yep and yep
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Good. Also, he has Body Control for turning his hands into tentacles, obviously taken from the tentacle monster, Thread Manip for creating the reddish binds he uses against Good Strange), Transformation and Darkness for turning into GS's shadow and using it against him and maybe Life Manip as well since he was able to create some...things in the ground to attack GS during the duel
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Profile's gonna be ready during the day, although a bit later as I have personal stuff to do as well
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Just finished ep 4 and it was pretty good, I liked how the watcher was included more in this ep as well
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And in terms of him causing the destruction of his universe/timeline that seemed to be more of a domino effect if anything seeing as he just destroyed something that was holding the universe together rather then destroying the universe itself
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That's not the point, his Low 2-C is being able to prevent it's destruction of s limited amount of time, as well as him being able to survive it with his magic.
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I know, I just saw dale saying something about destroying the absolute point so I just through my hat in
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This is by far my favourite episode so far.
Loved seeing this dark incarnation of Strange, I hope it his he we see in the final episode of the series, perhaps a chance to redeem himself?
Seems liked we've covered a lot of the powers and stuff we could add as well which is cool. All I can add is that the Strange gets Longevity since it's mentioned he had some sort of spell that slows down aging (Both Strange Supreme and Sacred Timeline).
Loved seeing this dark incarnation of Strange, I hope it his he we see in the final episode of the series, perhaps a chance to redeem himself?
Seems liked we've covered a lot of the powers and stuff we could add as well which is cool. All I can add is that the Strange gets Longevity since it's mentioned he had some sort of spell that slows down aging (Both Strange Supreme and Sacred Timeline).
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That was probably just the time stone tbh
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He says something along the lines of "you use magic to remain frozen". I guess we can't know for certain if main universe Strange cast it before he gave away the time stone, but at least we can apply longevity or possibly immortality type 1 to Strange Supreme. Tbf it must of took a lot of time looking through all those possible futures though (In Infinity War).
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The episode doesn't make it blatant but it's strongly implied to be because of the Stone, though I guess I could add possibly longevity/age manip on the profile I'm preparing
Justification for the Low 2-C AP is that he was able to briefly slow down the destruction of his timeline and his AP should be comparable to his defense
Justification for the Low 2-C AP is that he was able to briefly slow down the destruction of his timeline and his AP should be comparable to his defense
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I mean they kinda refred to the time stone as magic before infinity war plus when he sees the black guy get old he goes for the time stone immediately
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If the Watcher ever gets a profile, I'd say he should get: "Unknown, likely Low 2-C" As it's sorta implied he can undo the damage yet it's sorta vague
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Should wait the end of the season to decide wether or not he should get one
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