MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[KLOL506]

Destruction of Sokovia

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THIS IS BIG IF TRUE (Well it already is because the 2380 part exists in Iron Man's visors in the movie itself, but it actually being in meters is a big thing), BUT WE NEED THE ACTUAL NAME OF THE SOURCE FOR WHERE THESE SCANS COME FROM OR ELSE WE CAN'T USE IT. DEAR GOD I HOPE NO ONE USES THE "OUTLIER" CARD

IMAGINE MY ******* SHOCK WHEN YOU REALIZE IT'S FROM THE WAKANDA FILES

 

[KLOL506]

Wakanda Files

****. ME.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I can't tell whether it's a good or bad thing

 

[Dalesean027]

I can't tell whether it's a good or bad thing

Bad apparently from the looks of it

 

[KLOL506]

I can't tell whether it's a good or bad thing

Me neither, I'm ******* conflicted

 

[Dalesean027]

Me neither, I'm ******* conflicted

Explain these wakanda files why that reaction

 

[KLOL506]

Bad apparently from the looks of it

On one hand, this feels a bit too high for pre-Awakened Thor level people

On the other, this does not uproot the scaling too much and is consistent with the 6-C Gauntlet snap being not much of a bother for Thanos and does not come anywhere close to Surtur's 6-B death. And the Wakanda Files also states Mark 46 to be nerfed to comply with the Sokovia Accords.

And we also have Gorr the God Butcher terraforming what happens to be a moon or something but no results can come out of that without knowing the size of the moon.

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah the guidebook states the official size of Sokovia and also states Iron Man's Mark 46 armor to be nerfed into a noncombatant armor to comply with the stupid Accords so IDK where to go with this one. We need more MCU experts input.

WE STILL NEED TO REFERENCE THE MARVEL MOVIE SOURCES LIKE WE DO WITH THE COMICS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Made a CRT for people to discuss

https://vsbattles.com/threads/high-6-c-mcu.137636/

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Also, for shitpost reasons, we should make Defender Strange's corpse optional equipment for Doctor Strange

I agree

 

[Dalesean027]

On one hand, this feels a bit too high for pre-Awakened Thor level people

On the other, this does not uproot the scaling too much and is consistent with the 6-C Gauntlet snap being not much of a bother for Thanos and does not come anywhere close to Surtur's 6-B death. And the Wakanda Files also states Mark 46 to be nerfed to comply with the Sokovia Accords.

And we also have Gorr the God Butcher terraforming what happens to be a moon or something but no results can come out of that without knowing the size of the moon.

Also lines up with thena and captain marvel being able to fight each other as someone did a CRT on before

 

[KLOL506]

Also lines up with thena and captain marvel being able to fight each other as someone did a CRT on before

That got rejected due to there not being enough evidence but now, with Gorr and this... IDK. I'm still torn.

 

[Propellus]

On one hand, this feels a bit too high for pre-Awakened Thor level people

On the other, this does not uproot the scaling too much and is consistent with the 6-C Gauntlet snap being not much of a bother for Thanos and does not come anywhere close to Surtur's 6-B death. And the Wakanda Files also states Mark 46 to be nerfed to comply with the Sokovia Accords.

And we also have Gorr the God Butcher terraforming what happens to be a moon or something but no results can come out of that without knowing the size of the moon.

Though about CM's Sub Rel flight speed scaling to the god tiers, is it even consistent enough?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Also lines up with thena and captain marvel being able to fight each other as someone did a CRT on before

Makes What If Party Thor and Captain Marvel consistent

 

[KLOL506]

Though about CM's Sub Rel flight speed scaling to the god tiers, is it even consistent enough?

Should anyone even scale to CM and Thanos other than Strange, Mjolnir Cap and Scarlet Witch at full power? Thanos was handily blitzing everyone else and even overwhelming Thor, we could even argue that Strange was not going fullpower against Spider-Man.

 

[Dalesean027]

Makes What If Party Thor and Captain Marvel consistent

Yep that 6-B feat they had which was also sub rel funny enough

 

[Propellus]

Should anyone even scale to CM and Thanos other than Strange, Mjolnir Cap and Scarlet Witch at full power? Thanos was handily blitzing everyone else and even overwhelming Thor, we could even argue that Strange was not going fullpower against Spider-Man.

Actually, I doubt Strange was even trying his hardest against Spider-Man

 

[Dalesean027]

Actually, I doubt Strange was even trying his hardest against Spider-Man

Same also strange could fully move and react normal while peter was in the astral plane which is a damn good speed feat

(Would only scale to peters spidey senses too)

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

You mfs getting me excited at 1 AM

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Thanos was handily blitzing everyone else and even overwhelming Thor

Mark 50 Iron Man and Thor could still keep up and react to his hits, even if they were being overwhelmed

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Mark 50 Iron Man and Thor could still keep up and react to his hits, even if they were being overwhelmed

Was Thanos even trying real hard against Mark 50 Iron Man? And wasn't Thor getting beat up when trying to Solo Thanos?

 

[Propellus]

Actually, should mark 50 Iron man even scale to Thanos at all? He was getting stomped the whole battle

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Was Thanos even trying real hard against Mark 50 Iron Man? And wasn't Thor getting beat up when trying to Solo Thanos?

Thanos obviously went relatively easy on Tony, he just used the Power Stone a bit but he was almost casual (especially compared to Strange)

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Actually, should mark 50 Iron man even scale to Thanos at all? He was getting stomped the whole battle

That discussion was already had iirc, and the conclusion was "harming him is harming him "

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Was Thanos even trying real hard against Mark 50 Iron Man?

Pretty sure he was

And wasn't Thor getting beat up when trying to Solo Thanos?

That seemed more so AP rather than speed

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

That discussion was already had iirc, and the conclusion was "harming him is harming him "

On that note, Hulk should be 6-C for even staggering Thanos as much as he did copium

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Was Tony's statement about the Nano Gauntlet ever calced?

"That glove is channeling enough energy to light up a continent."

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Was Tony's statement about the Nano Gauntlet ever calced?

"That glove is channeling enough energy to light up a continent."

I don't think so, the question is would it be accepted?

 

[KLOL506]

'Kay so I finally found the full image because Spino's original calc's SS redo with Mountain level was wack.

Seems like a massive issue of unit swapping, but the area scan is the most problematic, because it doesn't say diameter. Spire depth definitely has the 2380 value, so that's something, even tho it's in feet, the guidebook has the same value but it's meters, the diameter is blatantly stated to be in meters as well and is 6430.

This makes me sort of question Tony's visor displays that aren't direct statements by JARVIS or FRIDAY herself, like the Cap Newton 22 m/s punch thing that isn't even Wall level but Cap has feats on far higher consistently even if we discount Quicksilver.

 

[KLOL506]

I don't think so, the question is would it be accepted?

Tier 7, not even worth the effort.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Tier 7, not even worth the effort.

Oof

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Spoiler

Looks like any leak saying she was secretly an Inhuman is false

 

[Dalesean027]

This got me

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

This got me

Lmfao

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

On one hand, this feels a bit too high for pre-Awakened Thor level people

On the other, this does not uproot the scaling too much and is consistent with the 6-C Gauntlet snap being not much of a bother for Thanos and does not come anywhere close to Surtur's 6-B death. And the Wakanda Files also states Mark 46 to be nerfed to comply with the Sokovia Accords.

And we also have Gorr the God Butcher terraforming what happens to be a moon or something but no results can come out of that without knowing the size of the moon.

I mean there is him casually shaking the juton planet soooo

 

[KLOL506]

I mean there is him casually shaking the juton planet soooo

Already calc'd to be 7-A for the Grand Canyon thing. Shaking the planet itself gets you nothing without any tectonic plates on it.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

This got me

Homie really forgot about the incredible hulk

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Already calc'd to be 7-A for the Grand Canyon thing. Shaking the planet itself gets you nothing without any tectonic plates on it.

100 times the size of the grand canyon equated to just 7-a? Why and how?

 

[KLOL506]

100 times the size of the grand canyon equated to just 7-a? Why and how?

Ice.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Ice.

Isn’t made of ice and rock? And even then how is shaking an entire planet of ice still not equate to anything