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Also the soon to be High 6-C characters are gonna be Sub-Relativistic in the near future
Holy ******* shit. How did we get here?
Holy ******* shit. How did we get here?
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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The hype for love and thunder had to go somewhere
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So is even the street levelers such as Spider-Man going to be Sub Rel too?
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I don't know I forgot what was said
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Spidey is objectively the only one with the best feats I feel like his spidey swnse at least should scale to that for obvious reasons but he's no street tier
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I don't agree with a big scaling chain for the fastest combat applicable speed feat in the verse (We're not doing another JoJo's) but I'm pretty sure Spider-Man should scale in some way, maybe with Spider Sense
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personal I feel like there absolutely has to be a disconnect between the street tiers and cap tier people and another with spidey who I personally believe should still scale higher than them with spidey senses since his body can keep up with doctor strange with spidey senses when he's in the Astral plane and everything is slowed
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Most of them are gonna stay at MHS+
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Dk why tbh that's still plenty too high imo
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Guess we should start collecting feats for lower tier characters thenDk why tbh that's still plenty too high imo
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Unfortunately this isn't Injustice where the street tier characters react to the high tier ones
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I personally never had a problem with MHS+ street tiers, so long as they have no scaling to high tiersDk why tbh that's still plenty too high imo
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Personally believe they have absolutely no reason to scale to spidey by NWH like he only interact with the other Spidey's and Strange who has went up against high tiers consistently at the very least Spidey's spidey senses should scale to ther higher end shit
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God there so many possible scaling chains if High 6-C is passed.
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Strange above many
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That's definitely very good, not necessarily a 6-A proof but still supports the idea of a massive upgrade
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Mjolnir apparently caused an earthquake when it rose. Probably not gonna warrant anything higher than current stats, but it's an interesting feat
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Not worth the effortMjolnir apparently caused an earthquake when it rose. Probably not gonna warrant anything higher than current stats, but it's an interesting feat
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Said this in the DCEU discussion thread so I figured I'd say it here as well because I feel like we've all had our experiences with the toxic side od the DCEU fandom if ya know what i mean (Snyder cultist 
) but I'll say it here as well lol that I'm genuinely happy to some degree that the MCU Thor is above the DCEU as a whole.
My only real reason for being happy that MCU Thor is over the DCEU is because Snyder cultist make it absolutely ******* insufferable to have anything remotely side to side next to it or try and one up the MCU when they have good feats and shit going for them and it genuinely annoys me so it'll be a big blow to them when they see that Supes and the rest of the DCEU isn't all that
Other than that yeah I'm generally happy both verses are getting deserved upgrades, its just for me the DCEU is tainted with a different kinda toxicity than the MCU like I'd rather deal with a film bro who's a wannabe critic and people who have genuine reason for having a mixed opinion about MCU shit than obsessive fanboys and have to see all kinds of behind the scenes drama and ****** up shit.
It may sound bad but I'm genuinely happy the MCU has stuff over it though I wish it were just better all around in the DCEU's part so I can enjoy them both wholeheartedly
) but I'll say it here as well lol that I'm genuinely happy to some degree that the MCU Thor is above the DCEU as a whole.My only real reason for being happy that MCU Thor is over the DCEU is because Snyder cultist make it absolutely ******* insufferable to have anything remotely side to side next to it or try and one up the MCU when they have good feats and shit going for them and it genuinely annoys me so it'll be a big blow to them when they see that Supes and the rest of the DCEU isn't all that
Other than that yeah I'm generally happy both verses are getting deserved upgrades, its just for me the DCEU is tainted with a different kinda toxicity than the MCU like I'd rather deal with a film bro who's a wannabe critic and people who have genuine reason for having a mixed opinion about MCU shit than obsessive fanboys and have to see all kinds of behind the scenes drama and ****** up shit.
It may sound bad but I'm genuinely happy the MCU has stuff over it though I wish it were just better all around in the DCEU's part so I can enjoy them both wholeheartedly
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...there's something that's strangely becoming consistent in the MCU when it comes to gods...
Egyptian Gods lets use Konshu for example for obvious reasons is At least 5-B, up to 4-A but having moon shit and star shit specifically
Thor and Zeus for that matter both gods ofc sill have shit that's lowballed at least 6-A+(if we use pluto) but for all intensive purposes we'll say High 6-A something that could greatly affect the moon(in a similar vein to konshu though obviously the latter has a better feat)
Now Prime Surtur has a what 6-B or low 6-B destruction feat from him destroying asguard with us knowing that Odin slapped him up in his prime so Odin likely could be much higher in his prime(could potentially be 6-A+ or high 6-A depending on any new statements that we may or may not get) however the kicker with Odin that Thor doesn't have is that damn Star feat we've been neglecting for forever but as of the celestials and egyptian gods we've seen two seperate types of gods now who have some control over stars to some extent and considering the now 6-A+/high 6-A shit with Thor and Zeus being a moon feat similar to some konshu shit on top of him for sure being above Surtur who could destroy asguard in 1 strike in his prime it makes me wonde about the validity of us ignoring Odin having star shit and being potentially around the same level as this Thor in his prime if not though he should still be objectively above surtur whose gonna be "at least high 6-C" anyways
Stg if we get any statements or see any other gods have star shit we're revising odin because it'd be absolutely ridiculous to not take his feats seriously (already feeling like it is a little ridiculous tbh)
Egyptian Gods lets use Konshu for example for obvious reasons is At least 5-B, up to 4-A but having moon shit and star shit specifically
Thor and Zeus for that matter both gods ofc sill have shit that's lowballed at least 6-A+(if we use pluto) but for all intensive purposes we'll say High 6-A something that could greatly affect the moon(in a similar vein to konshu though obviously the latter has a better feat)
Now Prime Surtur has a what 6-B or low 6-B destruction feat from him destroying asguard with us knowing that Odin slapped him up in his prime so Odin likely could be much higher in his prime(could potentially be 6-A+ or high 6-A depending on any new statements that we may or may not get) however the kicker with Odin that Thor doesn't have is that damn Star feat we've been neglecting for forever but as of the celestials and egyptian gods we've seen two seperate types of gods now who have some control over stars to some extent and considering the now 6-A+/high 6-A shit with Thor and Zeus being a moon feat similar to some konshu shit on top of him for sure being above Surtur who could destroy asguard in 1 strike in his prime it makes me wonde about the validity of us ignoring Odin having star shit and being potentially around the same level as this Thor in his prime if not though he should still be objectively above surtur whose gonna be "at least high 6-C" anyways
Stg if we get any statements or see any other gods have star shit we're revising odin because it'd be absolutely ridiculous to not take his feats seriously (already feeling like it is a little ridiculous tbh)
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******* even ego is even 6-A durability wise and is High 6-B with his expansion like bruh idk
The gods in the verse are pretty damn consistent when they're at their full power or potential (Zeus is literally being presented as having been a lazy party looking god as of late and his Lightning bolt can still match Gorr that's a casual 6-A and high 6-A on his part)
The gods in the verse are pretty damn consistent when they're at their full power or potential (Zeus is literally being presented as having been a lazy party looking god as of late and his Lightning bolt can still match Gorr that's a casual 6-A and high 6-A on his part)
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So the possibility of Tier 4 Odin is back?
IIRC the only one to harm Odin, after he beat Surtur and banished Hela, was Laufey, and we don't even know how he did it.
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Personally I don't believe it's entirely too far fetched to consider it if its a rating similar to konshu it's not necessarily combat applicable for most cases but it should be noted
Something like 6-B(for slapping up prime surtur who could blow up asguard),or even 6-A+/ High 6-A(if we get any new statements) and 4-C(blah blah star shit)
Edit: to specify the star shit with odin is happening if I see another god damn god character manipute the stars or have some kinda statement(i should honest scour the thor movies to see some shit)
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Khonsu's currently rated as unknown physically, shouldn't he physically be equal to or stronger than his Avatar physically, and stronger in his giant size?
Pre-Awakening Thor < Old Odin < Awakened Thor < Hela < Surtur < Prime Odin
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He had to be referring to his old self because he narratively beats the shit out of prime surtur I'm pretty sure it's stated so in that same film
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I'd think so I mean him and ammit were slamming into Pillar's and rock and shit in their scuffle in the pyramid I don't see why he wouldn't be wall+ too for his small form at least
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So Prime Odin could potentially scale to Thor in L&T because if you think about it, Thor awakened his powers late in Ragnarok, and got beat up by Thanos early in IW, did nothing but eat and drink for five years in EG.
Basically, he remained physically stagnant during all that time and did nothing to improve his new base level of power.
But in L&T he worked himself back in shape, and trained to become stronger than ever before. Which is improving his new base level of power.
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He could be "at least" and same for Ammit (I was actually planning on making a profile for her)
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So far, Egyptian Gods are at the top of the food chain and will likely stay that way even with Love & Thunder but yeah, it's good gods in the MCU are consistent. If Thor gets straight-up 6-A/High 6-A feats, I hope we can make Odin scale ot him (Zeus already has some good potential for high tier stuff)
I would love to see Mesopotamian Gods in the verse but I don't know if they have a big role in the comics
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I mean shit yeah that's essentially what happens and even endgame Thor still is stronger than himself in IW when he awakened not too long prior but still yeah he remains stagnant for the most part until this movie where we see him actually train with his god abilities and shit and get back in shape
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She deserves a profile for sure but on that note Harrow does too if he doesn't
Yeah Egyptian gods are OD like no wonder Yu-Gi-Oh makes them a big deal lol but seriously yeah they're at the top then average celestials and then Greek and Norse gods it seems but the more gods the better I want to see more shit to bask in consistency
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Can't wait to see what he'll be capable of now, same for Gorr and Zeus (especially if Zeus actually created his lightning bolt by himself, that would not only give him Creation in his abilities, it would also mean the bolt is truly an extension of his power so any feat associated with it would be his to)
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Should I put what I've brought up about the gods in the high 6-C thread or save it for after love and thunder(I'm thinking after)
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Afters best I think
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Now i'm wondering when we'll get the Japanese Gods in MCU?
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