MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[CharlesZaGreat]

Still waiting for the day we get either Liveaction or animated Mayday Parker

 

[Hellbeast]

Imagine putting literally anyone but a genius as an Illuminati. Carter and Rambeau shouldn't be here

Wait this Xavier is from the Future Past Timeline?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Wait this Xavier is from the Future Past Timeline?

He isn't

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Wait this Xavier is from the Future Past Timeline?

I think that's speculation from the fan image

 

[Hellbeast]

Huh ok

 

[TypeOU]

Wait this Xavier is from the Future Past Timeline?

It's fanmade with no more indication so I just used comics+movies as a basis.
edit: nvm, it's DOFP in the fanmade

 

[Dalesean027]

First look at Gorr

Spoiler

 

[Hellbeast]

Well that looks disappointing
Good thing I have no expectations for Thor 4 since Ragnarok was overrated (imo)

 

[Dalesean027]

Well that looks disappointing
Good thing I have no expectations for Thor 4 since Ragnarok was overrated (imo)

I mean I don't really get the complaints it's not like they're going to have a but naked alien man on screen so and for face complaints those are pretty dumb too I mean they kinda have to keep bale's face intact so he can give a good performance and be recognizable personally since we already saw the black hood and necro sword I don't really have any complaints

 

[Hellbeast]

I mean I don't really get the complaints it's not like they're going to have a but naked alien man on screen so and for face complaints those are pretty dumb too I mean they kinda have to keep bale's face intact so he can give a good performance and be recognizable personally since we already saw the black hood and necro sword I don't really have any complaints

Again though I feel you can account for that without removing everything interesting about Gorr's design

 

[Propellus]

First look at Gorr

Spoiler

Where's Paul Allen's reveal photo?

 

[Dalesean027]

Again though I feel you can account for that without removing everything interesting about Gorr's design

Again though I feel you can account for that without removing everything interesting about Gorr's design

I will say I hope at least when he's using the Necrosword it'll give him the cool black tattoo sorta design and has a dope effect on the hood

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

First look at Gorr

Spoiler

That looks like patches lmaoooooo

 

[Dalesean027]

That looks like patches lmaoooooo

Bro Noooonot patches

 

[Hellbeast]

I will say I hope at least when he's using the Necrosword it'll give him the cool black tattoo sorta design and has a dope effect on the hood

Even then you'd lose the cool alien design that's so iconic about him
Like smh

 

[Dalesean027]

Even then you'd lose the cool alien design that's so iconic about him
Like smh

That but at the very least his garb should be much more ragged and torn to show how ****** his home world was

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

That looks like patches lmaoooooo

So he gonna run away when Thor comes crashing down on him like a meteor with his goats

 

[Dalesean027]

Hmm this is all I gotta drop about Love and Thunder





Soo supposedly it's actually been well received but I'll leave that for when we get the trailer and when the movie drops and I'd have called it again

 

[ArkhamDC06]

First look at Gorr

Spoiler

Am I the only one here thinking he looks like Patches?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Am I the only one here thinking he looks like Patches?

Nah

That looks like patches lmaoooooo

 

[Dalesean027]

Am I the only one here thinking he looks like Patches?

Nope

That looks like patches lmaoooooo

 

[ArkhamDC06]

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

 

[TypeOU]

First look at Gorr

Spoiler

imagine going from one of thor's most menacing enemies to whatever this is.

 

[Newendigo]

First look at Gorr

Spoiler

He just looks like another Malekith.

And Malekith was done really badly.

 

[Hellbeast]

He just looks like another Malekith.

And Malekith was done really badly.

Don't remind me of how badly they wasted Eccleston

 

[Newendigo]

But I will, tho.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Gorr's design has me a bit worried (Not as worried as I am about Taika Waititi handling the character in general though)

 

[Hellbeast]

Gorr's design has me a bit worried (Not as worried as I am about Taika Waititi handling the character in general though)

NGL I hated the last movie and I'm really not excited to see Taika handle Gorr

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I'm more worried about how they will handle his abilities since they gave the Necrosword to Hela basically (and also about how they will handle Zeus)

 

[TypeOU]

I'm more worried about how they will handle his abilities since they gave the Necrosword to Hela basically (and also about how they will handle Zeus)

the only thing that matters about necrosword is that it's a godkiller weapon made by knull, both of which weren't really said for hela's weapon. It should be fine

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I know people deeply want it but will Knull even exist in the MCU at all? It's the same thing as Mephisto, nobody is sure they will appear in any way

 

[Hellbeast]

Honestly you could prolly have it Gorr gets the Necrosword after Hela died and uses it as a powerful weapon to slay the Gods (maybe she ravaged his world millennia ago and inspired his rampage)

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Hoping takia won’t butcher the storyline(lol) like ragnarok and planet hulk

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Hoping takia won’t butcher the storyline(lol) like ragnarok and planet hulk

I think he only took inspiration from it. Now with what seems to be the Illuminati appearing and Hulk possibly getting a solo movie in the future, we may get a proper Planet Hulk and WWH arc.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I think he only took inspiration from it. Now with what seems to be the Illuminati appearing and Hulk possibly getting a solo movie in the future, we may get a proper Planet Hulk and WWH arc.

Are you sure? Because he had a lot of things from said storyline. Doubt it, it wouldn’t make much since for them to just shoot banner into space and then for him to end up on sakaar agian(especially when his war bound is nonexistent). Whatever the mcu is doing is taking a completely different direction from the comics

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Are you sure? Because he had a lot of things from said storyline. Doubt it, it wouldn’t make much since for them to just shoot banner into space and then for him to end up on sakaar agian(especially when his war bound is nonexistent). Whatever the mcu is doing is taking a completely different direction from the comics

Maria Hill, Director of S.H.I.E.L.D., approaches Iron Man concerning the Hulk, who has recently destroyed Las Vegas. Iron Man presents a solution to the problem of the Hulk to the Illuminati (excluding an absent Professor X), suggesting that they shoot him into space toward an uninhabited world. Alone, Namor dissents to the plan from the outset. He argues that they have no right to banish their ally from Earth and accuses them of not helping to cure Bruce Banner to the best of their abilities. The other four members vote in favor of the plan, and Namor departs after a brief skirmish with Iron Man beneath the waves (Namor manages to tear off Iron Man's face mask before both are returned to the surface by Doctor Strange). While leaving, he says that the Black Panther was correct, and Namor predicts (correctly) that the Hulk will eventually return to seek justified revenge.

During Civil War, Reed is contacted by Amadeus Cho, who informs him that Hulk did not land on the intended planet. When the Hulk ultimately returns to Earth, he seeks revenge on the Illuminati as Namor had warned. He became King of the planet he landed on, before the ship self-destructs and destroyed millions of the inhabitants, along with the Hulk's wife and unborn child. His first act is to attack and defeat Black Bolt at the Inhuman settlement on the moon. Hulk arrives on Earth and sends a transmission to hand over Doctor Strange, Iron Man, and Mister Fantastic to him while giving the citizens of New York City time to evacuate.[22] After providing New York with a twenty-four-hour time limit to hand the other three Illuminati over to him, the Hulk approaches Professor X at his mansion to determine whether he would have supported the Illuminati plan had he been present. After scanning Hulk's mind, Professor X confirms that he would have agreed with the plan, but only until a method could be found to prevent the Hulk endangering others. He battles the X-Men. After learning of the mutant population's recent severe losses as a result of "M-Day", the Hulk decides that the X-Men have suffered enough and departs.[23] Having then taken over Manhattan Island, the Hulk is attacked by Iron Man in a new 'Hulkbuster' armor, only for him to be defeated and Stark Tower to be destroyed. Despite the aid of the other members of the Fantastic Four, including temporary members the Black Panther and Storm, the same fate befalls Mr. Fantastic. Dr. Strange tries to enter the Hulk's mind, but Hulk tricks Strange into presenting himself in a physical form that he attacks upon appearance. Strange later invokes and is possessed by the demon spirit of Zom, hoping that he could stop the Hulk before it was too late. However, he loses control of his newfound power, and he almost caused some civilians to die during his battle with the Hulk. Although the Hulk saves them, this action makes Strange lose his confidence in his powers and makes him vulnerable for the Hulk to defeat him.

Hulk then implants the Illuminati members with obedience discs and forces them to fight each other in his makeshift gladiatorial ring in Madison Square Garden. However the Hulk spared them from killing each other, showing them that he proved his point to the world. They survived the encounter by Hulk's mercy and the timely intervention of the Sentry which leads to a prolonged battle where both Hulk and the Sentry reverse back to their human forms and Bruce Banner knocks out Robert Reynolds with a final punch. This allows enough time for Stark to use prototype defense satellites to negate the Hulk's powers. The Illuminati is also partially cleared from the responsibility of Sakaar's destruction when Miek admits he saw the Red King's forces breach the ship's warp core and kept quiet to initiate what Miek felt was Hulk's destiny as the "Worldbreaker".[24]

Namor, the only Illuminati member opposed to shooting Hulk into space from the beginning, was spared from the Hulk's vengeance and remained uninvolved throughout the conflict.[11]

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I don’t really need a retailing of the story. My point is that it was more of a adaptation(a changed one) rather then just an inspiration.

 

[TypeOU]

I know people deeply want it but will Knull even exist in the MCU at all? It's the same thing as Mephisto, nobody is sure they will appear in any way

He has been teased in basically every movie since Venom 2, he WILL appear.