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that might be because a lot of monsters in movies look the same nowadaysI'm not sure he said the Dweller was a Deviant, just that they looked similar
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that might be because a lot of monsters in movies look the same nowadaysI'm not sure he said the Dweller was a Deviant, just that they looked similar
Pretty much, yeahthat might be because a lot of monsters in movies look the same nowadays
It's not...I think. I mean, there's literally nothing to say the Dweller is the same kind of creature than the DeviantsI hope this isn't a serious debate
Thor Love And Thunder better have good feats in comparison.Shang-Chi final Ten Ring explosion>The Dweller In Darkness>=The Great Protector>>Baby Dragon=Ikaris (at least 41.59 gigatons)
Aghhhhh I know I was hoping for hour episodes smhFinally saw NWH today too btw. Now I can finally stop dodging spoilers. \
ONLY 40? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Why is he smirking? Mr. Dr. Stephen Strange, you do know that you're dealing with a very very very very bad multiversal threat that effects the lives of quintillions, correct?
Strange promo art for MoM. It's...a bit better I guess
Well they don't call him Dr. NormalWhy is he smirking? Mr. Dr. Stephen Strange, you do know that you're dealing with a very very very very bad multiversal threat that effects the lives of quintillions, correct?
Normally, Wenwu would be Tier 8 via various feats. Probably 8-A from his shaking the mountain feat. By combining the energy of the Great Protector with the Rings, Shang-Chi's final attack would be High 6-C. The scaling comes from Eternals: The 500 Year War #6. In the 16th century, Ming Dynasty, China, a Deviant fought a baby dragon, barely 10 to 20 metres long. The Deviant also injured the Sorcerer Supreme of the era. Ikaris couldn't kill the Deviant with his strongest attack (literally flying through it). The injured baby Dragon was able to hold the Deviant still enough for Ikaris to perform his attack, and ultimately died (rip Baby Dragon you won't be forgotten). The Great Protector and the Dweller-In-Darkness in Shang-Chi were more than 200 metres long.What are the grounds for a Shang Chi upgrade?
Using what exactly? Also source?Has been discussed before but I find interesting that, according to the showrunners of What if, Ultron's not using them to affect the universe around him, but rather enhance himself, since they come from the same universe. Thus he can channel their power to fuel his weaponry and technology, as well as modify himself, but he can't actually use their powers outside his own universe directly. Could be added as a weakness to his profile. Also, the fact that he's a program that can be hacked should also be added
Using what exactly? Also source?
there's more to it than that. He exclusively used the stone on himself, and when they brought him back to his universe, he instantly tried to stop time, something he didn't try to do beforeSo where is him not being able to use the stones directly outside his universe coming from?
We literally see him using the stones just fine outside his own universe
The Stones cannot directly affect another universe than their own but they can be used on oneself, wich is exactly why Ultron is able to use their abilities, because he powers himself with them so he gets abilitiesSo where is him not being able to use the stones directly outside his universe coming from?
We literally see him using the stones just fine outside his own universe
no reason to stop time? Really?He tried to stop time as a tactic to get the soul stone. He didn't stop time before he has no reason to.
What's the point of doing so when he's got other options? Plus, why would him choosing not to use one specific ability mean that some of his abilities are restricted?no reason to stop time? Really?
Where is that stated again? I'm only seeing a scan of Ultron being powered by the infinity stones themselves, but I don't see sources for the first part.The Stones cannot directly affect another universe than their own but they can be used on oneself, wich is exactly why Ultron is able to use their abilities, because he powers himself with them so he gets abilities
That I agreeWhat's the point of doing so when he's got other options? Plus, why would him choosing not to use one specific ability mean that some of his abilities are restricted?
Pretty much all articles about the Stones in What if came to that conclusion and same goes for basically anyone else, with nothing coming to contradict that conclusion, and it is canon the MCU is part of the greater Marvel Universe (as Earth/Universe 199999), including the comics, and in the comics, the Stones don't work outside of their own universe (the "same universe being" is a clear call-back to this). Last but least, fridge logic. If Ultron could simply directly affect other universes outside of his own, why would the writer of the series make the effort to precise he's using them by empowering himself because they're from the same universe?Where is that stated again? I'm only seeing a scan of Ultron being powered by the infinity stones themselves, but I don't see sources for the first part.
Literally same species lol. I'm pretty sure you're much stronger than a baby human. Same logic applies to other creatures tooWhy would the baby dragon automatically be inferior to the protector? "it's bigger so it's stronger" isn't really an argument.
Sounds legitLiterally same species lol. I'm pretty sure you're much stronger than a baby human. Same logic applies to other creatures too