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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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I think Wenwu > SC anyway. He has much more experience with the Rings and have developped greater power than his son
So that would give use for Wenwu "9-B physically, 8-A with the Rings, Low 7-C will all the Rings"
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Wenwu didn't seem to able to create the explosion that big. He would've done so taking down the scales covering the mountain if he could.
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So how will the Low 7-C feat be used?
He still ends up being tier 8
He still ends up being tier 8
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I think Shang-Chi should be Low 7-C with the 10 rings, whilst Wenwu is 8-A.
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We could list an individual ring as 8-A, while the ten rings as Low 7-C, and go from there
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Wenwu should scale honestly. He has had the Rings for centuries and has an absolute mastery over them so there's really no reason he shouldn't be able to do the same thing his son who had the Rings for some minutes at the time, he probably didn't do that because he was way too emotional at the time
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Maybe the Rings can have their own profile?
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Maybe
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As far as we know there's literally no difference in the strength of the rings between the two besides Wenwu was only killed through soul hax so we couldn't see him actually battle the dweller, there's also the fact that he did in fact manage to shake that entire mountain with the ten rings even when attacking the massive portion with the dragon scales. It seems more to me like Shang is simply just more versatile with the rings than his father the way his mother was they were both able to do that fireball type blast thing with the rings while Wenwu never could so that shouldn't discredit his strength(besides the after credits clearly shows there's just much more hidden when it comes to the rings that none of them even knew about including Wenwu)
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And the rings should absolutely have their own profile though not anytime soon since they don't have enough notable abilities or hax for that so it'd just be pretty stale
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Yep. Wenwu put all the Ten Rings in one arm when punching the Dark Gate
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Wenwu put all the Ten Rings in one hand while punching the Dark Gate.
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Would Jiang Li be 8-A for fighting Wenwu?
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Would she get a profile though?
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Yes coz Fala Chen hot
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Just remembered NWH will be released next month. I completely forgot it would come so soon after Eternals
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Just for clarification, what's ClanDestine?
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Clan Destine (Earth-616)
Clan Destine are the super powered progeny of Adam of Destine and Elalyth, a Djinn. In recent years, they've become reluctant superheroes due to their youngest family members (the twins, Rory and Pandora) developing their powers in adolescence. 20 appearance(s) of Clan Destine (Earth-616) 3...
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HELL YES
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Oh yes! Might have a reason to watch She-Hulk then
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The non physical Eternals will have "unknown" physical rating with 6-C durability with armor. Phastos will have 6-C via weapons
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Why 6-C dura at all with armor?
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Dweller calc got evaluated. It can be used
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Indeed things are as they should be
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Friendly reminder we see Eternals like Sersi take hits from Deviants who can kill fighters like Gilgamesh without armor in the movie
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Pretty sure only kro killed gil and that was only because he gave him the gawk gawk so that’s probably not the best scale
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Other Deviants than Kro before are shown to be able to harm the likes of Thena and Gil as well and we see Sersi take hits from them as well
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Ya expect all deviants aren’t comparable. There are some that take multiple eternals to put down like the horned one in the flash back and there are some that can be stun locked by fodder humans with shotguns or there are ones that can be bullied by makkari solo. So unleash the deiviant she took a blow from was a higher tier deiviant then she shouldn’t scale to 6-c
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Fair enough I guess
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Seems like the Eternals will be weaker than planned unfortunately 
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Yep my exact point not all deviants are equal in strength at all they definitely vary so we shouldn't just be scaling the thinkers to 6-C dura just because they got hit by a random deviant. The fighters are fine at 6-C as they take on the actual most threatening ones that can damage all of them even drawing blood from ikaris
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Sadly true
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Any news about the cosmology page?
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Nah it's been pretty dead sadly
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