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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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Party Thor had actually awakened his powers here. His eyes were glowing when he used lightning
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Shouldn't just be his eyes he should passively have lightning emanating from his body
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If he is Awakened Thor its kind of depressing that even with legitimate effort his lightning did nothing to Cap Marvel.
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Tbf, she used energy absorption, so it's not like the lightning directly hit her
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Fair enough
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It's even more depressing that Thor could've reached his full power if he was just partying all day
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He could in the final ep
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Gib Old King Thor dammit
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So is Party Thor not getting a profile?
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Why would he get a profile? There needs to be enough differences in terms of feats, abilities and powers to get a new profile.
As far as I remember he didnt do anything majorly different from Sacred Timeline Thor beyond personality stuff.
Simply being a variation of a character isn’t enough afaik, there needs to be discernible differences in terms of powers, personality doesnt work since this is an indexing wiki that doesnt really care about personality until we get to matches (Which is a secondary function of VSBW iirc).
As far as I remember he didnt do anything majorly different from Sacred Timeline Thor beyond personality stuff.
Simply being a variation of a character isn’t enough afaik, there needs to be discernible differences in terms of powers, personality doesnt work since this is an indexing wiki that doesnt really care about personality until we get to matches (Which is a secondary function of VSBW iirc).
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Meh I'm not necessarily against it but I don't think that's necessary. The character's essentially the same as his pre-Ragnarok self, the only differences (aside from his story) are his personnality and his armor otherwise he has no new ability or power
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There is social influencing and limited sound manipulation since he projected his voice really loud, but those two are the only notable ones I can think off
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You could potentially apply those to Sacred TL Thor.
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I don't think social influencing can be applied, but limited sound manipulation can
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Makes social influencing the only real difference between them. That and his personnality, clothes and perma-shaved
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Honestly, I think we should make a CRT at the end of the season and just discuss feats, what can/can't be made there. For now we can at least compile and assortment of feats and once we've got everything stockpiled, make the thread and sort it out there.
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No they're really about the same in terms of feats both are city level and he's not awakened either so he's consistent to the sacred timeline thor also Captain Marvel heavily held back on him and while we hadn't seen him go all out either seeing as he wasn't awakened he would've lost whatever clash they were going to have at the end
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That’s somewhat arguable considering shield didn’t think nukes could do him in and resorted to making tesseract amped nukes instead, pre awakened. Though CM could probably beat after an extended fight if she can casually through out North Dakota destroying attacks
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Good idea. We discuss here about what can be done directly and at the end, we make the CRT for the rest
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Good point
This is good for her specific scaling but yeah she still held back she wasn't there to kill Thor just to make him leave which would be the only reason it's over time
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Not really, you can maybe argue hes stronger than pre-awakening Thor but I definitely wouldnt say it’s super noticeable.
He didnt preform any major higher level feats afaik and CM confirmed she was holding back.
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Yeah I definitely wouldn't say he's noticably stronger at all, his biggest feats still fell into pre awakened Thor's capabilities
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Have we been compiling the list of feats anywhere?
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This is a list of them it's a bit weird though because they don't mention how carol was holding back on him but other than that that's about everything
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There’s also spider-mans train feats, vision mind beam feats, hulk fight zombie wanda(somewhat controversial but whatever) Captain carter stuff, Asgardians taking over earth in like 1 day and I think that’s it
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Nice.
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There's honestly lots of what if stuff that should be calc'd even though it wouldn't necessarily change tiering we still don't have any calc's for the profiles I think so at the very least we do need some
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Tesseract amped nukes? Didn't recall that.
Nah i doubt the fight would last, i mean she hit him with a warning punch and thor really felt that, Plus his attacks Obviously are useless except his mjolnir direct hits which either send her flying with zero damage or just pisses her off, albeit while holding back greately. Two of her serious punches should take thor out.
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It was in avengers 1 when Tony and Bruce hacked into shield's database and found out they were going to use it to make tesseract powered weapons along with nukes
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I should be able to calc Vision destroying the base though the result would likely be low considering he doesn't do it by himself, as in its mostly gravity doing so, and at best it'd scale to Wanda's physicals but inverse square law would make that much worse.
I could also calc the other stuff as well just later on
I could also calc the other stuff as well just later on
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Everything for Vision and Wanda from the movies leading up to Zombies still happened, would that need to get calc'd really?
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What do you mean by that?
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I'd say the only things really needing calc's are Captain Carter, Spider-Man's train feat(both FFH and What If), and that's about it aside from anything involving party thor or that we may get what if
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Basically, the feats for both characters in Pre-Infinity War movies still happened before Zombies
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I believe Lonkitt is saying since the same events leading up the Ant Man 2 still happened and since the calc will be a low end since it's gravity doing the feat is it necessary or really applicable
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