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Before I answer this, why is Eson considered particularly different? The only Celestial who is straight up stated to be different is Ego
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MCU Love & Thunder Spoiler Thread
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We're all realizing the dude is above the two celestials present, anything odin has done with stars that's 4-B, and the 4-A egyptian god shit by statements but because the celestials are the only ones with 4-C physicals that's what were going with
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Also there's literally a CRT to make Eson 4-C so that's not really an arguemnt his profile was made at a way earlier time and is heavily outdated to what we know average celestials are capable of and even from how they're birthed
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Because afaik, Eson doesn't have reason to scale to 4-C, that and it's pretty suspect that he's 4-C when he's much smaller than the other celestials who do planetary to star level, and needed the power stone to perform a 5-A feat
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Eh he used it doesn't mean he needed it and we also see celestials at omnipotence city who aren't the size of planets but we still consider them to be no different than regular celestials and ignoring their literal lore and how they're created alone is downplay to them
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Tbh nothing says he needed the Stone, just that Celestials were using it to pass judgment over planets
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Like we see Arishem create the universe in his palm but also see him at multi-solar system sizes and planetary sizes when close to earth so it'd probably be likely they can alter their size
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The celestials we see creating stars are dudes who are giant sized, idk why we would consider much smaller ones to do the same, when we know the smaller ones have much worse feats
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Any to name? Eson was conceptualized before Eternals elaborated on Celestials and Ego is Ego
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Just eson using the power stone which had no anti-feats and doesn't suggest he has no scaling higher
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This too
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And yeah, given Arishem can alter his size, it probably explains why we've seen Celestials manifested as that small
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A 4-C upgrade for MCU god tiers in the work.
Interesting.......
Interesting.......
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I guess you did not like Love and Thunder
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Kinda the opposite but I'll have to admit the movies are getting stale.
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Not gonna disagree with you on that one
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Well, you're not wrong, I'll give you that
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After watching The Boys, you kinda want a more raw feeling from the movies, to go beyond boundaries and embrace what can potentially be a darker and more engaging story.
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Wanted this so bad for love and thunder like I truely wanted this to be a genuine heartfelt story with a incredible scale to get behind it
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The comic Gorr the God Butcher and Godbomb storylines give you more of that feeling. I'd recommend checking those out. There's even a comic dub of them I went through.
When I went through those, I was like "Love and Thunder could never", and from what I heard and saw from the spoilers, I guess I was at least kind of right.
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And further hating Homelander, there's that lel
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OK, quick question: did Gorr fit the tone of the movie at all?
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Idk, the tone is pretty mixed
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It's pretty genuine at the end with Thor and jane and at the very beginning with Gorr but the fact they put all that story in the backdrop for most of the film to relegate the rest for jokes and an all around dumber and less heartfelt Thor is criminal especially when he fits exactly into the mold of gods that gorr is literally going after showings he's no different and that gorr is basically correct anyways unlike Thor in the god butcher story
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I think I heard someone say Thor kills more gods in the film than Gorr lol
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Well that's incorrect because Thor didn't even kill Zeus, though he took him down very easily
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It's very mixed. The beginning (the best scene in the movie) perfectly sets up the character and his hatred for the gods and everytime he appears, the story gets darker (especially since he's genuinely creepy) and serious and the end is downright tragic but whenever it's just Thor and the others, it's all about jokes that are very hit-and-miss
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That's one of the problems with Gorr, we see corpses and images of the gods he killed but he never kills anyone major on-screen, the only god he's shown murdering is one of his own at the beginning and that's it, he should have had more scenes showing him murdering some deities to build his threat in a better way
It's pretty unfortunate cause Christian Bale is amazing in the role, the intro with him is very tragic and really good, the visuals with him are genuinely creepy, almost disturbing at times, the powers he displays are very sinister, his design works much better than expected, his ending is genuinely sad, etc. In short, the only things that prevent him from being a truly memorable villain and one of the best in the MCU are the fact that he's only seen killing once and he's not as strong as he could have been even without reaching the same level as his comics version (also I think redeeming him was a bad idea and he should have stayed evil till the end but his ending is still good)
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We did not get enough Gorr at all
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You know what, even without the black hole statement, I would have cared, the guy killed a kaiju-size god that is several kilometers taller and bigger than him at least and cut the arm of Lady Sif, one of the greatest warriors in Asgard and the Nine Realms. Don't care about the black hole at this point, just show us that insane fightFalligar
I would've liked the wrestle black holes statement
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Really wish we got to see Gorr doing some god butchering on screen
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Apparently tons of stuff was cut, including some scenes with the Grandmaster, don't know why they cut that, so there's a big possibility we should have actually seen him kill some gods
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Imagine if we got to see Gorr kill Falligar, Celestials, and gods at Omnipotence City
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Because it's not and was a terrible choice imo
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Because of his daughter I guess
