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[MCU] Hulk Powerscaling
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which hulk has as well 100 thousand + years of combat training with a elite Asgardian will do that to you
no he didn’t?
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It's still a durability feat though same as against Thor? And where was it said that he was "massively" holding back?
Yes? Do you think Durability magically drops when you're injured? Thanos doesn't use an UES to amp himself, meaning whether injured of tired his Durability would still stay the same. The only things that injuries or being tired would affect would be the performance or his Lifting Strength, Striking Strength/AP, and Speed
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He was stated to be holding back the entire time in IW and which is shown be with the amount of hits hulk take if just one hit from awakened Thor had hulk literally on his knees and we don’t even know if Thor was going all out either what do you think a hit from someone much stronger then Thor would do ? hulk doesn’t have as good durability feats as thanos and arguably Thor to
Hulk doesn’t have the feats to downscale
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He did used weapons a was able to tag and keep up with Thor despite the massive disadvantage he had
no he didn’t weren’t you and that other literally saying hulk did get his rage amp before thanos beat him down earlier
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Clearly you didn't read the OP
Hulk got up from the first hit ready to keep fighting.
Hulk was dazed and on his knees from the second hit, but recovered soon after
We don't know if Thor was holding back.
Thanos has actual statements suggesting he was holding back while getting more and more Stones
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Ya he swung around some big weapon
He did as implied in the screenwriter statement
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he was using 2 weapons and could keep up with Thor despite the massive disadvantage he had
The screenwriter statement did not say he got a rage amp nor did it say he’s stronger in IW then in ragnarok both y’all literally told me he had no rage amp earlier when thanos beat him now your contradict yourself
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I did and hulk doesn’t scale to thanos if thanos wanted he could’ve dropped him any time we wanted which is why maw states let him have his fun thanos was just toying with the hulk
Got up and? Doesn’t mean he wasn’t effected by it hulk clearly felt the first punch and the 2nd one had him on his knee taking a little to get back up and pretty sure hulk gains stamina back fast to
I know that’s why I just said we don’t know because it’s possible he was but not confirmed
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All hits directly to the head. I mean it's common knowledge that even though your skull is able to withstand a punch your brain isn't, and it would jiggle around in your skull from the force of a punch
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Just like in there first fight
I said it implied it as the writers used hulk instead of Thor to demonstrate thanos’s power. Never said that bud
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No, you didn't
The artbook for IW explicitly says that Thanos starts holding back after disposing of his armour. The fight with Hulk takes place before that
Nobody cares if he was affected by the punch. He wasn't instantly brutally incapacitated, knocked out, killed or disintegrated into nothing
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He wasn’t knocked out cause thanos was holding back again 2 hit from someone much weaker dropped him to his knee someone stronger is obviously going to destroy him
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hulk being able to tag and keep up with Thor and fight even involving weapons show skill cause thro himself is already insanely skilled in both hands hand and weapons then you take in the fact hulk is a massive disadvantage he definitely has skill
Nowhere is it implied that hulk is stronger in IW then ragnarok that wouldn’t make sense as like y’all said he didn’t have time to get his rage amp up before getting sleeped by thanos unlike in ragnarok he got his rage amp activate
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Even if we are talking his regular body his arm was getting fried just putting the infinity gauntlet on
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Anyone can pick up a swing a weapon around so not really
It is as I already stated. Nice straw man
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It’s like saying all Thor does is swing his weapons around is Thor not skilled and not everyone could just tagg Thor like he did with the massive disadvantage
It isn’t nowhere did the statement say he was stronger in IW then ragnarok use common sense which is stronger the one with rage Amps or the one without
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so why would hulk scale to someone who’s he’s much weaker then and not as durable
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We are just going around.
Marvel_Champion, write your justification for the new tier you are proposing for Hulk and tag staffs to see it.
Marvel_Champion, write your justification for the new tier you are proposing for Hulk and tag staffs to see it.
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The main justification would be something along these lines:
Though I might also throw in extra reasonings like:
@LordGriffin1000 @GyroNutz @Colonel_Krukov what do you think about it?
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Why not include Hulk staggering Surtur with a double hammerfist, and doing "Hulk fist-sized" cracks/holes/dents in his Crown with his punches?
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The script mentioned it was partly because Surtur was shocked (not just the impact force) and it didn't do much damage
Upon rewatch, the cracks didn't seem that significant, plus Surtur and the crown were otherwise undamaged, so I'm not entirely sure how reliable that is
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that would only be further proof of him scaling to pre awakened Thor not post awakened
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Which Surtur do you think I'm talking about?
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The big one
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Then why does Hulk doing essentially pin pricks amount of damage = him scaling to Pre-Awakened Thor?
Is EF Surtur = Pre-Awakened Thor?
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Because Thor couldn’t do anything to a crippled surturs crown.
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So in your mind the Crown/Surtur's Skull-face, despite being combined with the Eternal Flame, is still somehow weaker than Post Awakened Thor?
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No, just means he doesn’t scale to him since he did very little damage
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I think it's good to apply.
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I don't mind this downscaling.
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I think Hulk if is being downscaled from Surtur, then we should note that he massively downscales.
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This looks fine, keep in mind the former justification is durability.
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