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Mcu Captain marvel downgrade

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Then Tony met Mantis before? Where did you saw that?
You really have no understanding of context at all do you?

You understand the concept of planning right? Planning involves sharing of information

Tony wants to make a plan, the Guardians rebuff him, citing it isn't their style

Dr. Strange tells them that they only win in one future, they get worried

They put aside their differences and come together
 
I think you lost it. I said Captain Marvel followed a plan that wasnt hers, a plan that envolved Hulkbuster locking his arms to make sure he couldnt use the gaunlet until Thor cut it off. Captain Marvel was the distraction.
And I think you’re high, nothing new. The plan was to kill him and take the gauntlet, why would they ever hold back agianst him
 
You really have no understanding of context at all do you?

You understand the concept of planning right? Planning involves sharing of information

Tony wants to make a plan, the Guardians rebuff him, citing it isn't their style

Dr. Strange tells them that they only win in one future, they get worried

They put aside their differences and come together
Then im supposed to ignore that right in front of thanos before he hit him and blow everything he states "for the record this was my plan" while pointing at Stark?
 
And I think you’re high, nothing new. The plan was to kill him and take the gauntlet, why would they ever hold back agianst him
Because the plan envolved get the gaunlet and stop him from using it, to begin with thats why captain marvel when she was overpowering Thanos she was doing it with one hand because she needs to stop him from using the gaunlet.
 
Because the plan envolved get the gaunlet and stop him from using it, to begin with thats why captain marvel when she was overpowering Thanos she was doing it with one hand because she needs to stop him from using the gaunlet.
She intentionally let her self get overpowered so he could have an easer time using the gauntlet at the farm and didn’t use her full power agianst him until the last minute so he can almost snap? Yup checks out
 
Then im supposed to ignore that right in front of thanos before he hit him and blow everything he states "for the record this was my plan" while pointing at Stark?

My god dude, do you not understand dialogue? Listen to his tone of voice, in that scene. The look he has on his face.

He's taking credit for Tony's plan or saving face due to the fact that Tony's plan worked
We draw him in, pin him down, get what we need. Definitely don’t wanna dance with this guy. We just need the gauntlet.


Iron Man: Piece of cake, Quill.

Quill: Yeah, if your goal was to piss him off.

If Iron Man slamming a huge chunk of debris on top of Thanos was part of Quill's plan then why would he chastise Tony for doing it?

Iron Man: Is he under? Don’t let up.

Mantis: Be quick…. He is very strong!

Iron Man: Parker, help! Get over here. She can’t hold him much longer. Let’s go. We gotta open his fingers to get it off!

The fact that Tony was asking whether Mantis had Thanos under her power obviously reinforces that they discussed each other's capabilities before Thanos arrived. The only one that was an odd ball was Nebula.
 
Because the plan envolved get the gaunlet and stop him from using it, to begin with thats why captain marvel when she was overpowering Thanos she was doing it with one hand because she needs to stop him from using the gaunlet.
If she killed him with that blast than they wouldn't even need to block him to prevent him from using the Gauntlet. She had no reason to not go for the kill with that attack. Your logic is extremely flawed.
 
She intentionally let her self get overpowered so he could have an easer time using the gauntlet at the farm and didn’t use her full power agianst him until the last minute so he can almost snap? Yup checks out
She never fought Thanos she doesnt know how powerful he his, she used enough force to put him in the right place that Bruce needed to get his arm.
Why didnt Thanos just used the reality stone and turned Stark into pieces like he did with Drax? Does that mean he wasnt holding back during almost the entire fight against all avengers when he could have easily ended the fight?
 
My god dude, do you not understand dialogue? Listen to his tone of voice, in that scene. The look he has on his face.

He's taking credit for Tony's plan or saving face due to the fact that Tony's plan worked





If Iron Man slamming a huge chunk of debris on top of Thanos was part of Quill's plan then why would he chastise Tony for doing it?



The fact that Tony was asking whether Mantis had Thanos under her power obviously reinforces that they discussed each other's capabilities before Thanos arrived. The only one that was an odd ball was Nebula.
So we should believe you and your assumptions over the movie that clearly tells us it was his plan?
And we are supposed to forget Tony's arrogance in not getting credit over his plan?
Sure why not, apparently assumptions apparently count more than feats in this thread.
 
If she killed him with that blast than they wouldn't even need to block him to prevent him from using the Gauntlet. She had no reason to not go for the kill with that attack. Your logic is extremely flawed.
And if Thanos is stronger than CAptain MArvel he could have one shot her. Being stronger doesnt mean being strong enough to one shot
 
So we should believe you and your assumptions over the movie that clearly tells us it was his plan?
And we are supposed to forget Tony's arrogance in not getting credit over his plan?
Sure why not, apparently assumptions apparently count more than feats in this thread.

Your understanding of context and dialogue is blowing my mind.
 
So we should believe you and your assumptions over the movie that clearly tells us it was his plan?

The fact that you didn't understand context and dialogue of the events prior to and after the initial fight

And we are supposed to forget Tony's arrogance in not getting credit over his plan?

Oh you mean Tony who was quite busy trying to pull of the gauntlet while Quill was being cocky asshole?

Sure why not, apparently assumptions apparently count more than feats in this thread.
Go cry some more
 
She never fought Thanos she doesnt know how powerful he his, she used enough force to put him in the right place that Bruce needed to get his arm.
Why didnt Thanos just used the reality stone and turned Stark into pieces like he did with Drax? Does that mean he wasnt holding back during almost the entire fight against all avengers when he could have easily ended the fight?
Yes she clearly had no idea how strong he was when was getting overpowered. probably out of respect or whatever, thanos in infinity war was mostly holding back

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The fact that you didn't understand context and dialogue of the events prior to and after the initial fight
What context? YOu only said that he was taking credit over Tony's plan despite him previously saying Tony is idiot and saying it was his plan? There is no need for any context.
Oh you mean Tony who was quite busy trying to pull of the gauntlet while Quill was being cocky asshole?
As if that ever stopped anyone.
Go cry some more
I could cry or i could state facts which i did.
 
Yes she clearly had no idea how strong he was when was getting overpowered. probably out of respect or whatever, thanos in infinity war was mostly holding back

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And then she overpowered Thanos after measuring his power. HE had respect for the avengers despite not having met none of them but he had no respect for any of the guardians of the galaxy, even if he respected Stark he didnt respected Spiderman any of the guardians of the galaxy which he previously had to trouble detroying with the reality stone
 
Funny, any stament could be a lie, I guess we should assume any statement is a lie because anyone could create whatever context they want to make it a lie.
 
Coming from the guy who thinks Mind Manipulation and Reality Warping needs to have Durability Negation added beside them or can't Google temperatures for Heat Resistance that doesn't mean much
 
I never said it needs i said it can have because it is a thing, and having reality warp and mind manipulation doesnt mean they have durability negation.
I have no ideia what you talking about heat resistances.
 
And then she overpowered Thanos after measuring his power. HE had respect for the avengers despite not having met none of them but he had no respect for any of the guardians of the galaxy, even if he respected Stark he didnt respected Spiderman any of the guardians of the galaxy which he previously had to trouble detroying with the reality stone
That makes no sense, I said he had respect for stark idk we’re you got the rest of the avengers from. Ya because he doesn’t really care for them
 
That makes no sense, I said he had respect for stark idk we’re you got the rest of the avengers from. Ya because he doesn’t really care for them
So.... his respect for Stark means he will also allow everyone else to fight too? People he previously had no trouble turning into pieces on the ground are now worthy of fighting because Thanos respects Tony? Sure why not
 
So.... his respect for Stark means he will also allow everyone else to fight too? People he previously had no trouble turning into pieces on the ground are now worthy of fighting because Thanos respects Tony? Sure why not
I mean that’s not what happened but sure think what you want
 
Something like that, also probably to make strange cough up the stone

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I see 2 main ways for Thanos to show respect.
1- Going all out because he respects Stark as an enemy and wont treat him as a baby and go soft.
2- Going all out as Thanos (no stones) to show that he can defeat Tony as himself no power boosts, like when he fought Hulk with no stones just pure martial arts.
Thanos did none of them he fought using not even half of the stones true power.
When Thanos turned Drax into pieces Drax was still alive and lived after the effect of the reality stone was over, he could have easily turned Tony or even Strange into pieces and then torture him until he gives up the stone.
 
I see 2 main ways for Thanos to show respect.
1- Going all out because he respects Stark as an enemy and wont treat him as a baby and go soft.
2- Going all out as Thanos (no stones) to show that he can defeat Tony as himself no power boosts, like when he fought Hulk with no stones just pure martial arts.
Thanos did none of them he fought using not even half of the stones true power.
When Thanos turned Drax into pieces Drax was still alive and lived after the effect of the reality stone was over, he could have easily turned Tony or even Strange into pieces and then torture him until he gives up the stone.
Cool, this is how he dose it. What part of him not trying to kill people do you not understand? Or threaten to kill someone
 
Cool, this is how he dose it. What part of him not trying to kill people do you not understand? Or threaten to kill someone
Not trying to kill? Why did he explode the asgardians then? Why not wait for the snap instead of doing it himself? Im sure Vision was just fine he was not killed at all, he also didnt killed his own daughter.
 
Why did he explode the asgardians then?
  1. The only surviving Asgardian on the spaceship is Thor. I'm sure the God of Thunder is by no means a threat to his agenda
  2. Thanos' whole thing is killing half of entire species. He let half of the Asgardians live by letting them escape. The ones left on the spaceship are free kill, including Thor
Im sure Vision was just fine he was not killed at all
Right, because Thanos cared more about Vision's life than getting the Mind Stone to complete his goal
he also didnt killed his own daughter
What choice did he have? It's either that or not get the Soul Stone and complete his goal
 
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