Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Hmmn so I suppose we should treat the moment of Thor truly becoming 6-C as after he gets beaten the shit out of by Hela?

And in his fight versus Hela he's somewhere unknown between 7-A and 6-C and combined with Gungnir he can fight Hela for a bit.

But then he lost to Thanos off-screen. We don't know how but Loki still seemed confident of Hulk fighting Thanos after his brother got beaten.

 

[Dinobot1996]

Banner acting like Hulk would stand a better chance than the Hulkbuster 2.0 fighting against Cull Obsidian also makes things a little confusing scaling-wise

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I think ultimately the writers don't treat the gap between our 7-A and 6-C characters as that big.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Hmmn so I suppose we should treat the moment of Thor truly becoming 6-C as after he gets beaten the shit out of by Hela?

Yes

 

[Coolboy6]

Hulk after training at Sakaar should be at most 6-C for taking 2 blows from awakend Thor and still going strong even though he’s clearly weaker tbh.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

The counter-argument seems to be that Thor was not yet 6-C at that point. But then there are many instances that Hulk seems to be implied to be on the level of the strongest as said above, though it's not as clear cut as I originally imagined.

 

[Coolboy6]

The counter-argument seems to be that Thor was not yet 6-C at that point. But then there are many instances that Hulk seems to be implied to be on the level of the strongest as said above, though it's not as clear cut as I originally imagined.

He literally got awakened at that point so I don’t get this argument.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

He literally got awakened at that point so I don’t get this argument.

It's argued that Thor didn't tap into his full awakened power during that battle, and only got fully awakened after his vision with Odin

 

[Qawsedf234]

This mean MCU upgrade as Thanos crush Tesaract valid agian ?

The calc has issues that was never addressed in its comment section.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I recall issues being brought up outside of the comment section too

 

[Coolboy6]

It's argued that Thor didn't tap into his full awakened power during that battle, and only got fully awakened after his vision with Odin

He literally had visions of Odin when fighting Hulk so that doesn’t make sense either.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The calc has issues that was never addressed in its comment section.

Can't we just recalculate it.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Can't we just recalculate it.

The comment had this part

Major problem with this calculation is that you're getting an answer in Watts and displaying the result in Joules. This feat isn't quantifiable without more information on the Tesseract.

As an example, if we assume the Tesseract is as dense as granite and has a specific heat coefficient of water (one of the highest materials in this category) then this would calculate out like this:

1. The Tesseract has a volume of 0.002 m^3 (0.12 m x 0.12 m x 0.12 m)

2. The Tesseract has a mass of 5.5 kg (0.002 m^3 x 2750 kg/m^3)

3. Water has a specific heat coefficient of 4.186 J/g K, meaning it'd take about 2.7e+12 J or 660 Tons of TNT to heat the Tesseract to this temperature, not teratons

The emissivity just tells you how fast the Tesseract will lose this temperature, not how much energy it's tanking or emitting. You can't know that without a timeframe.

 

[KLOL506]

The comment had this part

The water part is incredibly sus, the Tesseract isn't made of water or granite, if its energy yield being noted to be able to wipe out the Eastern seaboard is anything to go by.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The water part is incredibly sus

That actually makes the result much lower, since the water thing was using its emissivity ratio.

if its energy yield being noted to be able to wipe out the Eastern seaboard is anything to go by.

There were a lot of explosives on those planes. It wasn't going to one shot the Eastern Seaboard.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Anyways: https://vsbattles.com/threads/mcu-8-c-ap-lifting-strength-revision.130110/

 

[Sparkive]

I don't know if this helps, but here I leave it (tesseract)

 

[Hellbeast]

Yes, but Thor novelization indeed says his blow shook the planet

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111398367/8204559-0375060875-20210.jpg

TBH Jotunheim is "hollow"

 

[KLOL506]

TBH Jotunheim is "hollow"

Hollowness plays no factor in an earthquake calc, earthquakes are dependant on distance.

Only problem is Jotunheim's size.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Hollowness plays no factor in an earthquake calc

It does. If the planet lacks tectonic plate structure there's nothing to base an earthquake calc on. It would be like trying to calc an earthquake for a black hole or a gas giant.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Yeah I'm pretty sure the earthquake formula we use is based on Earth conditions

 

[KLOL506]

It does. If the planet lacks tectonic plate structure there's nothing to base an earthquake calc on. It would be like trying to calc an earthquake for a black hole or a gas giant.

I thought radiated waves didn't need tectonic plates and was based on meteor impacts.

Though I do remember DontTalk saying it wouldn't work on our Moon or something.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I thought radiated waves didn't need tectonic plates

Radiated waves are short hand for "Seismic Energy in Waves Radiated from Earthquake Source". They're just the energy of seismic waves through a medium. Its why large explosions or meteor impacts can generate them since they can cause a seismic event.

If something lacks tectonic plates you can't get seismic energy from it.

 

[Hellbeast]

Hollowness plays no factor in an earthquake calc, earthquakes are dependant on distance.

It does if there aren’t tectonic plates and Jotunheim is just a ball of ice

 

[NaturalDestroyer]

Bump

 

[Lacku]

I know this thread is intended as a rough draft but whats stopping us from starting a CRT and applying this? I believe we already have all the feats we need, unless theres still something were waiting on

 

[Qawsedf234]

CRT and applying this?

Most of the feats used for 6-A aren't feats or don't work as suggested.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Bump

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Bump

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Should the power surge of Thanos' Snap be above his 6-A moon feat?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

His snap is a hax feat.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

His snap is a hax feat.

I meant the power surge of the Snap

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Oh that, eh I dunno.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Isn't the power surge 6-C which currently scales to his physical stats?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Isn't the power surge 6-C which currently scales to his physical stats?

Yeah, though the number was still going up before rocket changed the monitor

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Isn't the power surge 6-C which currently scales to his physical stats?

The number was still rising before Rocket changed it, who also states that the power surge was beyond any other energetic output before

MCU High 6-B Upgrade

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also Spino, do you think you could try your hand at a recalc for the Thanos crushing the tesseract feat?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Kind of weird for it to be that low 6-C considering we have the 6-C meteor feat and the 6-A moon feat. Plus the fact an eternal is stronger than the infinity gauntlet itself

 

[Dalesean027]

an eternal is stronger than the infinity gauntlet itself

Where did u get that from??? U mean without Stones right

 

[Z's_Universe]

Where did u get that from??? U mean without Stones right

I think they're referring to the 6-C feat for ikaris.