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Matter Manipulation & Casuality Resitance for Orihime
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She describes it as being similar to her barriers, but that doesn't mean it has the same effects.
I don't see any indication that his forcefield warps Causality.
I don't see any indication that his forcefield warps Causality.
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What do you think "similar to Shun Shun Rikka" means?Damage3245 said:
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Hachi doesn't have causality manipulation.
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As in they're both barriers created through Spiritual Energy.
Do you think they'd make a big deal out of her powers being special if anyone could cast a Kido that replicated her abilities?
Do you think they'd make a big deal out of her powers being special if anyone could cast a Kido that replicated her abilities?
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Hachi isn't just anyone - he's probably the greatest Kido master in the series.Damage3245 said:
Not to mention, he directly states that no Soul Reaper can break the shield through Kido.
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That doesn't mean it manipulates causality.
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It's a big assumption to say that Orihime noting a similarity = Hachi's barriers manipulating causality, especially when any such property is never displayed or explained. At best, it'd be a possibly Causality Manipulation, but I don't think it qualifies for even that.
Hachi refers to his healing Kido as "Time-Space Regression", anyways. It's spacetime manipulation, not causality manipulation.
Hachi refers to his healing Kido as "Time-Space Regression", anyways. It's spacetime manipulation, not causality manipulation.
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I'm initially going to say no to this; however, I will check later the databooks see if there is any entry for Hachi's kido.
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I never said it does - I am saying that Hachi isn't just "anyone who can cast Kido".Promestein said:
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I was talking to AppleLord.
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Oh okay.Promestein said:
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His barriers likely function similarly. Again, it doesn't even matter if it isn't time-space manipulation - without any elaboration or description, this isn't worth anything.
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But casuality manipulation or Reality Manipulation can and has show time-space manipulation in other verses. Why wouldn't it be treated the same in this feat? Orihime has never mentioned any other kido barriers to be similar to her power, and Hachi said is an ability he created after becoming a vizard which is a mutated shinigami that got infected by hollow powers which is the source of fullbringers like Orihime.Promestein said:
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Just give her Barrier Nullification, Naraku has barrier nullification because he can pass through barrier like it was nothing.
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Databook MASKED has an entry in which Hachi's powers are stated to be similar to Orihime's
Orihime stating Hachi's barriers are like her Shun Shun Rikka.
Hachi first deducing Orihime has the same ability as him.
Rose stating that Hachi is interested in Orihime because it's rare to ever meet someone who has the same abilities as them.
Hachi telling Orihime that her ability is the same as his.
Oh and I found this, the forcefields have the ability to manipulate the minds of those nearby in order to hide it in plain sight as it forces those nearby to ignore it. This did not affect Orihime one bit.
Orihime stating Hachi's barriers are like her Shun Shun Rikka.
Hachi first deducing Orihime has the same ability as him.
Rose stating that Hachi is interested in Orihime because it's rare to ever meet someone who has the same abilities as them.
Hachi telling Orihime that her ability is the same as his.
Oh and I found this, the forcefields have the ability to manipulate the minds of those nearby in order to hide it in plain sight as it forces those nearby to ignore it. This did not affect Orihime one bit.
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What? How is just passing through a barrier actually nullifying it?MachTwo said:
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Becuase you can't just walk inside of it?
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Bypassing barriers is a thing though. Would that be the same as actually nullifying it?MachTwo said:
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Whats your suggestion? change it name to Can bypass barriers? as I said before, wiki doesn't have Bypassing barriers as power and ability, so I go with the closest alternative to that.
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shouldn't she have also Existence Erasure because of this
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No not at all
She's literally saying she will just causality manip the hogyoku and even then we don't know if she can really do that since she never did
She's literally saying she will just causality manip the hogyoku and even then we don't know if she can really do that since she never did
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She basically does it every time she rejects an event, but she stops after they are healed, so she doesn't go all the way. That Hollow that she killed was with both of her shields, so basically he was hit with existence erasure. Orihime manipulation of matter is a product of her rejection ability, and the ability to control Reishi which would be something similar to what we call here on Earth, Anti-matter.Paul Frank said:
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A lot of extrapolation here over vague scans.
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Not even close. Orihime's Fullbring is the rejection of an event. Reality Rejection. Nothing is gonna change her power source. Rejecting something to a state before it was created in the first place is something similar to existence erasure.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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I'm aware of what her power is.
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She is a fullbringer i am not surprised that she have power like that (Book of the End is still most haxed fullbring [not counting Aura of course])
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And also resistance to memory erasure
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