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Holy shit lol yeah that's big
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Massively Hypersonic+ MCU Upgrade
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Yes he does
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Would Base Cap scale to Thanos' Combat Speed? I don't recall him fairing well against Thanos in EG even with Thor and Tony's help, he was mostly blocking and getting rag dolled even when most of Thanos' focus were on the other two.
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So why don't we do that
We know strange held back against peter in their fight and that Strange could react to peter while he was in his astral form and we saw peters body reacting with spidey sense so I'd say that can solve it all
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Also yeah this
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There's also Peter fighting Strange in the mirror dimensionSo why don't we do that
We know strange held back against peter in their fight and that Strange could react to peter while he was in his astral form and we saw peters body reacting with spidey sense so I'd say that can solve it all
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But still strange held back
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Just to be clear, do we consider Peter's travel speed and web shooters in a similar speed range as his Combat Speed?
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Nope not his travel speed
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Nah. He was getting clapped the entire fight up until he got mjolnir
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Who's the fastest person that Base Cap could actually contend with, and not just being able to block and dodge, but being able to swap hands with for a prolonged amount of time?
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Should either be an outlier or that strange was not using his full speed.
We do know AOU thor level characters are already far above the street tiers via QS viewing thor as moving in his vision when the street tiers were frozen completely.
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Probs proxima midnight since she could fight IW wanda
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IIRC it required the team work of Widow and Falcon to get a one up on her, same with Corvus.
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Hmm that's true then idk
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@ 1:02
Thanos was able to react to CM flying right at him from a distance, planned to rush her, got knocked down, still able to react to CM from a short distance, and was able to throw his sword faster than CM can fly.
Thanos Reaction Speed >= CM Flight Speed
Thanos Attack Speed > CM Flight Speed
Put those two together and Thanos has Combat Speed = CM Flight Speed
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what did I miss lmao
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Sub-relative atmosphere calc for Cap Marvel got accepted
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How do feel about going like this for spidey btw doing it sorta like the comic spidey with his spidey sensesSo why don't we do that
We know strange held back against peter in their fight and that Strange could react to peter while he was in his astral form and we saw peters body reacting with spidey sense so I'd say that can solve it all
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I agree with this
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Has anyone cracked dr strange moving in astral project time with the Lightning
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Was it ever evaluated?
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Bump
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So the high tiers are going to be Sub-Rel while the rest remains MHS+
There is still Shang-Chi's speed scaling and Mjolnir's feat to calc
There is still Shang-Chi's speed scaling and Mjolnir's feat to calc
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Minor bump since this is a important point of the verses scaling
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Bump
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...have people lost pings for this or something
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I mean, does anyone have disagreements with the stuff?
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Yep lol we've still got a lot to work through and ik there are at least a couple of people who disagree with how the ratings are handled and need to give input so we can further this namely @Eficiente and @Damage3245 I'm very interested to hear their thoughts
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Can someone give me a summary of what's been discussed?
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Deciding who should scale to the sub-rel CM stuff, Spideys MHS+, and MHS in general
though ik @Damage3245 and @Eficiente have their own thoughts they just need to fully give them out but haven't yet
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Revamping the speed scaling for MCU bois.
Personally I think the scaling should be something like this...
Sub-Rel: Thanos, CM, Mjolnir Cap, dual-wielding Thor, Love and Thunder characters (Needs more confirmation), Marks 50-85 Iron Man, Rescue, maybe War Machine latest Mark (IDK), Hela, Strange, peak Scarlet Witch
MHS+: Awakened Thor (Without hammers or with just Stormbreaker), Spider-Man, Cap-tier people (Bucky, Super Soldiers, Black Panther), Iron Man (Even base Tony but that's prolly because he has the armor to reliably help himself against foes on his power level), Hulk, Quicksilver
Supersonic to MHS (Not sure on MHS because I don't remember peeps ever properly holding their own against Spidey save for Cap): All the street tiers below Cap
This is how I personally think the scaling should be like.
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Eficiente said he didn't have trouble with Spidey's current ratings, just with the street tiers who are just not really comparable to Cap level peeps and above.
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Thank god you included supersonic this is the most definitive I've seen it
Also though
Is especially above thanos and even moreso in her prime she should have every reason to be sub-rel since she casually stomped thor
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Hmmmmm, that's problematic, because Mjolnir Cap kept up with Thanos quite well in their fight, while Thor had to use both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker to gain an edge, obviously we can't say that Bro Thor with just Stormbreaker could even remotely come close to Thanos.
That and Awakened Thor could somewhat keep up with Hela who smacked aside his bolts with ease.
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