Massive Ben 10 Revisions Part 1 (2020 Corona edition)

[DMUA]

buildings

Tier 7

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Which is also consistent with Vilgax surviving a nuke in the OG series

 

[DMUA]

My casual lifting of 20 kilograms does not mean at my peak I can lift at least 20,000, and it especially doesn't mean that someone performing a Tier 8 feat supports Tier 7.

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

Can we make a calc for this and this

actually, the shockwave in the first feat seems to will an interesting result.

 

[DMUA]

The crater around them's pretty small, and we only see minor disruption caused by the wave at large, so it's a bit deceiving.

The second feat, glass isn't very hard to destroy and the building at large barely seems damaged, so

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Which is also consistent with Vilgax surviving a nuke in the OG series

Vilgax’s nuke feat - 720 kilotons

That building destroying explosion - 0.58 Tons

I wouldn’t use that as a supporting feat…

 

[Gohanblanco217]

My casual lifting of 20 kilograms does not mean at my peak I can lift at least 20,000, and it especially doesn't mean that someone performing a Tier 8 feat supports Tier 7.

I wonder how destroying multiple large buildings qualify only for baseline 8-C but okay whatever

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

The crater around them's pretty small, and we only see minor disruption caused by the wave at large, so it's a bit deceiving.

well if you say so no problem

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Vilgax’s nuke feat - 720 kilotons

That building destroying explosion - 0.58 Tons

I wouldn’t use that as a supporting feat…

Does the calc assume that the explosion destroyed a single building?

 

[DMUA]

I wonder how destroying multiple large buildings qualify only for baseline 8-C but okay whatever

Basic math and logic is how.

They aren't entirely destroyed, only the epicenter is significantly damaged, and this is only a high rise, not a skyscraper like what was put as the gif title.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

That calc's based on the actual explosion's diameter so no

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Basic math and logic is how.

They aren't entirely destroyed, only the epicenter is significantly damaged, and this is only a high rise, not a skyscraper like what was put as the gif title.

Nvm how about this one?

This to :

• Ultimate Echo echo Survives getting hit with a nuclear explosion that was going to take out an entire plumber space station, albeit at a significant distance

He was a little bit far from the explosion tho

 

[Antvasima]

This seems to make sense to me as well.

Also, given that several calc group, staff, and former staff members have agreed with this, the changes can probably be applied.

Given that this revision has been accepted, should it be applied now?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Cannonbolt survived this and this

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I managed to make these three calcs

Cannonbolt survived this

I'll do that one soon, but this is sand :/

 

[Antvasima]

I managed to make these three calcs

Are any calc group members here willing to take a look at them please?

 

[DMUA]

Cannonbolt survived this and this

Quit shotgunning Tier 8 feats like it changes anything. This revision is going to take way longer than it has to if we just sit down and calculate every single feat to say, yes, Tier 8 is in fact what's consistent here.

 

[DMUA]

Nvm how about this one?

... he literally just, doesn't tank it

Like, they temporarily contain the explosion but it's thrown a very, very far distance away to the point the blast is barely reaching them.

 

[Antvasima]

DMUA is correct.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Quit shotgunning Tier 8 feats like it changes anything. This revision is going to take way longer than it has to if we just sit down and calculate every single feat to say, yes, Tier 8 is in fact what's consistent here.

I don't care about tier 8 or 7 or anything I'm only sending those so Zamasu can make calcs for them that's all if you are to lazy to make calcs for them then go take a nap

 

[Gohanblanco217]

... he literally just, doesn't tank it

Like, they temporarily contain the explosion but it's thrown a very, very far distance away to the point the blast is barely reaching them.

1)Except he was able to stop a tier 7 explosion via the sonic discs, and Ultimate Kevin was able to withstand them in his fight with Ult Echo echo which would scale to his durability

2)yes he tanked it you can clearly see Ult Echo echo being weakened after he came back

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

To find the explosion yield, we need to find the radius of the plumber academy.

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

1)Except he was able to stop a tier 7 explosion via the sonic discs, and Ultimate Kevin was able to withstand them in his fight with Ult Echo echo which would scale to his durability

Don't the sonic disks rather manipulate the waves and stabilize the explosion somehow, instead of stopping the explosion? Is this really scalable... it just looked like a hax thing to me

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Gwen’s shield blocks an attack that causes likely 8-C damage

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Gwen’s shield blocks an attack that causes likely 8-C damage

Ummm what about this? (at 1:20) seems a better feat

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Gwen’s shield blocks an attack that causes likely 8-C damage

Hate to break it to but pulverizing dirt is weak sauce. It’s not worth calcing.

Ummm what about this? (at 1:20) seems a better feat

This would work if Gwen actually hit something. But with no impact there can’t be any results.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Eh Zamasu chan what are we gonna do about Diamondhead surviving moon fall feat? Are we gonna completely reject this feat?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Anyway a feat for Four arms

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Gwen also survived this

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Gwen also survived this

This one is actually pretty good especially since Aggregor survived it directly.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Have a look at that

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Have a look at that

Cool beans. Aggregor will be 8-B so it’s a good supporting feat.

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

Cool beans. Aggregor will be 8-B so it’s a good supporting feat.

Have a look at that

I will request you something, can you find out how far this feat has affected? the wave of this seems pretty calculable

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I will request you something, can you find out how far this feat has affected? the wave of this seems pretty calculable

I’m bad at calcing shockwaves, you might have to ask somebody else.

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

I’m bad at calcing shockwaves, you might have to ask somebody else.

oh you just need to find the distance affected and i will calculate (like 80 m or something else)

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Zamasu can you show me the calcs that you made so far?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Have a look at that

I brought this one up already.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I managed to make these three calcs

I'll do that one soon, but this is sand :/

@Gohanblanco217

 

[Gohanblanco217]

@Gohanblanco217

That's all? What about the others?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

That's all? What about the others?

Got busy.