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Ben 10 profiles Revamp

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Ghostfreak: Old - New
Zs'Skayr: Old - New
The changes are:
1. Update the abilities of both characters to make them more similar, as they belong to the same species.
2. Add some scans to abilities that were not originally explained.
3. Add new abilities such as:

Ben Tennyson: Old - New
The changes are:
1. State that he has gained all the abilities and resistances of Dagon.
-Due to a previous thread where he was upgraded (Was accepted) for the reason that he gained all the powers and abilities of Dagon through Power Absorption. So, the explanation has been added in the P&A.
2. Add Tier 5-B and AP to him.
-This has actually already been accepted by this thread, but Ben's profile page has not been unlocked yet, so I am adding it this time. (Updated via previous thread)
3. Add quote (Ben OV) and change the summary (Credit to @GeneralSol16)

Omnitrix: Old - New
The changes are:
1. Add Tier 5-B and AP to it.
-The same reason as Ben (2). (Updated via previous thread)
2. Remove anything related to Alien X
-Since I think this should be a page for Omnitrix and Alien X already has a separate profile of its own, there is also a description that the Omnitrix possesses all of Alien X's abilities, which be a problem as follows:
  • Untruth: Although the Omnitrix allows transformation into Alien X, that doesn't mean the Omnitrix gains all the abilities of Alien X. It's Alien X itself that already possesses its own abilities.
  • Inequality: That is, why is it that only Alien X appears in the Omnitrix profile? Why are there no other aliens present? Therefore, since no other aliens are appearing, Alien X should not appear either.

Albedo: Old - New
The changes are:
1. Add key and abilities (feats + scans and explain)

Thats all
 
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NXCHT.66 said:
Ben Tennyson: Old - New
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I agree with everything, but I'd add / change some things.

1. OV Ben quote should be:
- "Being a hero isn't about fame. It's about putting other people before yourself, or what you want. It's about doing the right thing, just because it's the right thing to do. It's about making a difference."
Since that's a better représentation of his character and motivations, it should replace the "It's just a Gadjet, be the Hero!" one.

2. His category.
For some reason, Ben isn't classied as a Superhero un the "Category:Superheroes" even when he's stated, acts and IS a superhero.

3. Improve his character summary.
His current summary is too...bad, is like the one who wrote it only read his Season 1 sinopsis, and not anymore.
It should be changed to somehow that includes his story after classic, that being UAF and OV. Something like:

- "Once an ordinary 10-years-old, Benjamin Kirby "Ben" Tennyson found a weird looking "watch" after it crashed in front of him while he was in a vacation with his Grandpa and cousin. The Omnitrix allowed him to turn into 10 different aliens, and he would use it to become a Superhero known as Ben 10. A few years and fifty more aliens later, he would grow up into a successful teenager and be not only Earth's Greatest Hero, but the Savior of the Universe and beyond."
 
GeneralSol16 said:
1. OV Ben quote should be:
- "Being a hero isn't about fame. It's about putting other people before yourself, or what you want. It's about doing the right thing, just because it's the right thing to do. It's about making a difference."
Since that's a better représentation of his character and motivations, it should replace the "It's just a Gadjet, be the Hero!" one

3. Improve his character summary.
His current summary is too...bad, is like the one who wrote it only read his Season 1 sinopsis, and not anymore.
It should be changed to somehow that includes his story after classic, that being UAF and OV. Something like:

- "Once an ordinary 10-years-old, Benjamin Kirby "Ben" Tennyson found a weird looking "watch" after it crashed in front of him while he was in a vacation with his Grandpa and cousin. The Omnitrix allowed him to turn into 10 different aliens, and he would use it to become a Superhero known as Ben 10. A few years and fifty more aliens later, he would grow up into a successful teenager and be not only Earth's Greatest Hero, but the Savior of the Universe and beyond."
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I added.

GeneralSol16 said:
2. His category.
For some reason, Ben isn't classied as a Superhero un the "Category:Superheroes" even when he's stated, acts and IS a superhero.
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Need to wait for the thread to be accepted first.
 
DemonicDude said:
considering the fact that Z's Skayr used these
Ben never used Ghostfreks Dream Manip so wouldn't that be "Non- Combat Applicable" when it comes to Ghostfreak in versus match ups.
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Depends, If Z's Skayr used them in combat situations, Ghostfreak would have it listed as combat applicable and vise versa.
Ghostfreak not using that ability just means he didn't use it
 
Churchill said:
Ghostfreak not using that ability just means he didn't use it
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He "didn't" use it also means he has no experience or practice using it and practice plays a role in Ben 10 combat related abilities as Diamondhead due to practice defeated Vilgax he stated himself he has more "practice" in this form. I just don't want an ability that Ben has never used to be misused in versus match ups so maybe in Ghostfreak profile notes it should be written that Ben has never displayed or sucessfully used Dream manip on others. This goes to other aliens as well, Ra'ad reveals he can read people's thought and used it on team tennyson but Ben never did that as Ampfibian so it should be written in notes of his profiles that Ben has never displayed this power.
 
DemonicDude said:
He "didn't" use it also means he has no experience or practice using it and practice plays a role in Ben 10 combat related abilities as Diamondhead due to practice defeated Vilgax he stated himself he has more "practice" in this form.
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The way Ben used practice doesn't clarify anything, he just says he practiced. There's nothing to be drawn from that
DemonicDude said:
I just don't want an ability that Ben has never used to be misused in versus match ups so maybe in Ghostfreak profile notes it should be written that Ben has never displayed or sucessfully used Dream manip on others. This goes to other aliens as well, Ra'ad reveals he can read people's thought and used it on team tennyson but Ben never did that as Ampfibian so it should be written in notes of his profiles that Ben has never displayed this power.
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I mean, profiles are misused no matter how explicit they are. If it's gonna be misused, an argument can easily address it. That's literally why vs matches are debated based on the characters behavior here.
Just because he doesn't use it doesn't mean it's a non combat applicable ability.
It is, it's not like Regen outside combat time or SI never shown as a combative tool. It's an ability his genetic replica has but wasn't used by Ben due to reasons we know not. Classifying that based on the above seems unwarranted.
 
DemonicDude said:
considering the fact that Z's Skayr used these
Ben never used Ghostfreks Dream Manip so wouldn't that be "Non- Combat Applicable" when it comes to Ghostfreak in versus match ups.
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But I only gave this to Zs'Skayr from the beginning because I didn't think Ghostfreak deserved it.
 
NXCHT.66 said:
Yes, because Zs'Skayr used this ability when he was still trapped in the Omnitrix through the loophole of the link between the Omnitrix and its user.
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Was that implied anywhere tho? If it was due to an established link, shouldn't every alien in the Omnitrix be capable of it?
Either way, if it's as you say then I'm fine with it.
Agree with everything
 
Churchill said:
The way Ben used practice doesn't clarify anything, he just says he practiced. There's nothing to be drawn from that
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The word "clarification" in Diamondheads case is up to us "the users" of this website. His practice is something we have actually seen on screen.


Ben practiced Diamondhead with Max, This gives us a clear indication on what he does in his past time using this particular alien form. And we can easily classify this type of practice into "Projectile based practice".
He's not using this form to make objects, Building's or even traps, He is using it in the video to accurately hit the targets.
So yeah there you go. We have a complete "clarification" on what is practice is using this form, his aim and accuracy allowed him to dodge attack from Vilgax and he won.

Churchill said:
I mean, profiles are misused no matter how explicit they are. If it's gonna be misused, an argument can easily address it.
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That's more of a "wing it" type of approach. If something can be helped then why not properly write it, If people are capable of creating Tabbers for Ben 10 profiles, and are also capable of going such lengths to improve them then why not add my little clarification note.

But then again I'm not going to force anyone that's not who I am and that's not what my character is, so fine don't write a note. 👍

(Now I can easily end this conversation by pressing the post button of the message but we all know I am The DemonicDude right.... there's no possible way that I'm going to press the post button without addressing every single thing which is even slightly related to my comment) 😈
(Don't take it personally tho Just channeling my inner narcissistic demon)👀

Churchill said:
That's literally why vs matches are debated based on the characters behavior here.
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Eh, Hard disagree😒
To me versus matches are comparison between characters powers and abilities. What their behavior are ? How they behave & what techniques they used and how they operate in day-to-day life and in combat scenario are written in "notable attack techniques" section of the page.

Churchill said:
Just because he doesn't use it doesn't mean it's a non combat applicable ability.
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I mean if you don't use something then that shouldn't even be on the profile to begin with 😈

I guess we can have special scenario for a versus battle matchup. I mean I do hear people use the term "Blood lusted vesus match". I guess to use these abilities people can write in Versus Match thread "Non on-screen showed abilities are allowed for this specific match" whatever you may prefer idc.



(again don't take anything I write seriously)
Churchill said:
It is, it's not like Regen outside combat time or SI never shown as a combative tool. It's an ability his genetic replica has but wasn't used by Ben due to reasons we know not. Classifying that based on the above seems unwarranted.
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Ehhhh It's like having a gun in your backpack and you don't know how to use it, To be fair I never really proposed these to be removed or anything like that. I just wanted it one line note but.... yeah, I don't really care anymore.
I'm going to DeviantArt side of Ben 10 things to see what's cooking cause I'm boored to tears.
Very well then. Good luck y'all.
 
NXCHT.66 said:
Albedo
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I've found some problems with this, well, not Albedo's profile at all, but the Omnitrix.

We should REALLY have the Prototype / Recalibrated Omnitrix as a separate key, since OV Omnitrix is literally considered to be the "Definitive" version of it, and has better feats (The immeasurable speed failsafe, for example). So, we shouldn't scale the canonical weaker and less advance model of the watch.

And the Ultimarix should be included, but even then, it was considered less advance than the Recalibrated one.

And Albedo didn't have access to X, at least not in the canon.
 
That Ghostfreak ability you guys were talking about just don't write down into notable attack techniques Ghostfreak still does posses that ability, it can be used in blooddusted battle as you say 🤷🏽
 
NXCHT.66 said:
Omnitrix: Old - New
The changes are:
1. Add Tier 5-B and AP to it.
-The same reason as Ben (2).
2. Remove anything related to Alien X
-Since I think this should be a page for Omnitrix and Alien X already has a separate profile of its own, there is also a description that the Omnitrix possesses all of Alien X's abilities, which be a problem as follows:
  • Untruth: Although the Omnitrix allows transformation into Alien X, that doesn't mean the Omnitrix gains all the abilities of Alien X. It's Alien X itself that already possesses its own abilities.
  • Inequality: That is, why is it that only Alien X appears in the Omnitrix profile? Why are there no other aliens present? Therefore, since no other aliens are appearing, Alien X should not appear either.
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Be careful not to delete some of the things that Omnitrix got now
 
DemonicDude said:
considering the fact that Z's Skayr used these
Ben never used Ghostfreks Dream Manip so wouldn't that be "Non- Combat Applicable" when it comes to Ghostfreak in versus match ups.
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I understand your standpoint, and I agree with what you've mentioned. What about the parts you haven't talked about? What are your thoughts on those?
 
NXCHT.66 said:
TYSM for your input.

To clarify, may I assume that both of you agree on my crt? And can I make the changes? (Certainly, I have not overlooked DemonicDude's insights, which both of you found agreeable and valuable.)
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I agree with everything else as long as it's written with proper scan links to Imgur website.
 
 
Remove anything related to Alien X
-Since I think this should be a page for Omnitrix and Alien X already has a separate profile of its own, there is also a description that the Omnitrix possesses all of Alien X's abilities, which be a problem as follows:
  • Untruth: Although the Omnitrix allows transformation into Alien X, that doesn't mean the Omnitrix gains all the abilities of Alien X. It's Alien X itself that already possesses its own abilities.
  • Inequality: That is, why is it that only Alien X appears in the Omnitrix profile? Why are there no other aliens present? Therefore, since no other aliens are appearing, Alien X should not appear either.
Seems fine to separate the transformation itself from the device.
 
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