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Marvel "What if...?" and Infinity Stones revision
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I think the tier 7 stuff is them joking lol
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So can we go further since we all agree about the CRT?
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Who knows what could happen what if we got like Venom vs hulk in the MCU
I'm with you I'm pretty sure this is done we just need the final word from staff
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Nice thread,
Agreed
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Agreed as well
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To summarize the situation, at the moment I am counting around 23 users that agrees with everything, including 4 staff members.
On top of the above, there are 4 users that agrees with almost everything but are neutral regarding the cross-scaling of the Stones.
On top of the above, there are 4 users that agrees with almost everything but are neutral regarding the cross-scaling of the Stones.
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I haven't even entered yet and it's already 2 pages wow
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Yep lol I asked to have you pinged earlier which ofc happened(thanks colonel) but yeah we ended up getting to 2 pages in that time
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Everything was fast here and that's a good thing
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So what do we need now?
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Just need to get confirmation that this can all be applied from either Ant or Staff
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I contacted AKM, Medeus, and Elizhaa for the approval
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Ant hasn't been online in about 4 hours but I already contacted him to see if this can applied now
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Also, before you guys do the updates, I need to just let you know that Hive Mind Type 1 needs to be added to the Power and Abilities of Infinity Ultron and Sacred Timeline Ultron as @The_Axiom_of_Virgo said
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Also, I think the Russo brothers once said the Soul Stone has the ability to conjure the spirit of the dead, as shown with Gamora appearing to Thanos in the soul world so...necromancy?
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Everything looks fine, but Thanos being rated as 3-A with all the Infinity Stones when the entire premise of the thread is that they're at least Low 2-C together makes me think he should just get the same tier accordingly, especially with how even the OP implies that they're not different in power from the ones in what-ifs, unless I'm missing something.
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The 3-A is just to be consistent with the extent of how thanos was going to use them and tear the universe down to the last atom and rebuild it from there even though that'd still be possible with low 2-C
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That's just up to what he was planning to use them, not the proper potential known so far of them together, and the latter is what's used for indexing, it's no different from giving something with blatant tier 2 feats and capability a lower tier just because it didn't do feats on that level at the time.
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That's fair enough I personally don't mind it but we'd definitely need to get input on that from staff so we'll see
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"At least 3-A" is more of a lowball of the power that Thanos was able to use. We know from his own words that that's the very least he was able to do, and we have no statement that he was able to use the full potential of the Stones like Infinite Ultron and use them to destroy the Space-time continuum.
The same argument could be used in reverse, and you could say that there is no statement that implies that he wouldn't be able to perform a Low 2-C feat like Infinite Ultron did, which is why during the draft thread some people proposed "At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C". I would personally agree with this rating, but as Dalesean027 said more input for that is necessary.
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I think "At least 3-A" is fine honestly, since that was his clear intention to produce a feat of this level but we have no proof he would have been able to do the same things as Ultron as said above
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Speaking of the stones the russos said this after there destruction
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Is there something to imply the full power of the stones isn't something someone can just access while they're together? It appears that they're only bound to what the user commands, and If this is the case or similar then the Infinity Stones together should be flat-out at least Low 2-C. Even then, it's clear this is more of up to what Thanos would use them for, rather than what the Infinite Stones can do even in this case potentially speaking, so I'd rather go for like "At least 3-A, potentially Low 2-C, possibly higher" or so.
But I'd rather just have them as at least Low 2-C for the before-mentioned reasons.
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The feats look legit, and much more consistent with Thanos' statements in Endgame. But why are canon Infinity Stones = What-If Infinity Stones?
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Because what if is canon to MCU
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In that case, wouldn't MCU Wanda be Low 2-C for destroying the Mind Stone since the OP proposed that the infinity stones have Low 2-C Durability?
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Nope she doesn't scale remember the scene when she destroys it Vision says she can do it because they have similar energy signatures since she got her powers from the mindstone
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And what about Supreme Strange = Good Strange = Main timeline Strange?
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That was only before his absorption and all the stuff he learned in Cagliostro's library since he didn't differ from his mainline self in teachings skill or story aside from what drove him to get his powers
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Good Strange went in with an explicit prep spell before hand. Good strange was also getting overpowered for a good portion of the fight, with his protection spell keeping him safe until it wore off.
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And yeah that's fine it
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Makes sense, and finally, what about Thor cutting through a beam of all 6 Infinity Stones? Wouldn't scaling to even a percentage of that make his Stormbreaker Low 2-C?
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Nah remember it was made to specifically counter the gauntlet and Thanos was caught off guard remember the Russo's specifically said this
“Thanos didn’t know what was coming his way and if he did he would have been able to use the stones to better react to Stormbreaker,”
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It's like how T'Challa's Vibranium suit was made specifically different from standard Vibranium and which is why his suit doesn't have 6-C dura
So the same way T'Challa's suit is made specifically to absorb more kinetic energy from impacts than other Vibranium stormbreaker was made to specifically counter the gauntlet which is why it doesn't scale it's basically anti-guantlet effect weapon
So the same way T'Challa's suit is made specifically to absorb more kinetic energy from impacts than other Vibranium stormbreaker was made to specifically counter the gauntlet which is why it doesn't scale it's basically anti-guantlet effect weapon
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I get that, but Stormbreaker still countered a Low 2-C attack, since no matter what percentage was used, it would still be Low 2-C.
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