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Marvel Cosmics Upgrade (Including Sentry and Statement Analysis)
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Yeah, if he could so something as disastrous as erasing all mutants across the omniverse, or completely destroy the laws of reality and casuality, then why can't we assume he can do those exact things as both events are reliant on reality warping?
It's supported, and the feats suggest it isn't hyperbole
It's supported, and the feats suggest it isn't hyperbole
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Well, maybe those abilities can be listed as a Possibly.
I personally hate Sentry for being such a Mary Sue it's downright annoying
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We will not give him extremely powerful abilities based on unproven speculation. Period. It is completely against our fundamental principles.
I don't have the time and energy to argue extensively about it, but you can consider it permanently rejected as far as I am concerned.
You should also ask Matthew, Sera, and Kepekley to comment here btw.
Also, the Sentry is severely mentally ill, and does just as much harm as good. He is definitely not a traditional Mary Sue. The most extreme real (engineered to be perfect and unblemished in every way) Mary Sue at Marvel right now is probably the Black Panther.
I don't have the time and energy to argue extensively about it, but you can consider it permanently rejected as far as I am concerned.
You should also ask Matthew, Sera, and Kepekley to comment here btw.
Also, the Sentry is severely mentally ill, and does just as much harm as good. He is definitely not a traditional Mary Sue. The most extreme real (engineered to be perfect and unblemished in every way) Mary Sue at Marvel right now is probably the Black Panther.
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I'll contact them as well.
He was introduced as one, he evolved past it in his later appearances only, but his original issues make for such an obvious insert, that it was awful, and left a significantly sour taste in my mouth. Anyways, I'd agree on the entirety of Wakanda being a group of Mary Sues ("I'm just smarter than everyone else with no feats to show for"), and even a downright racist nation, which given its namesake in the form of the real Black Panther party, is seemingly fitting. But oh well, at least it's not being pushed that hard by Marvel.
He was introduced as one, he evolved past it in his later appearances only, but his original issues make for such an obvious insert, that it was awful, and left a significantly sour taste in my mouth. Anyways, I'd agree on the entirety of Wakanda being a group of Mary Sues ("I'm just smarter than everyone else with no feats to show for"), and even a downright racist nation, which given its namesake in the form of the real Black Panther party, is seemingly fitting. But oh well, at least it's not being pushed that hard by Marvel.
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Thank you for helping out.
The sad thing is that Christopher Priest's version of the Panther was one of my favourite Marvel characters, but nowadays he has to be about symbolism rather than an actual person. Oh well.
The sad thing is that Christopher Priest's version of the Panther was one of my favourite Marvel characters, but nowadays he has to be about symbolism rather than an actual person. Oh well.
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By the way, upon further research
The Loki The Void Slapped was a threat to the entire multiverse
The Strange he slapped was above any other previous form of doctor strange
seems pretty 2-A to me u know
The Loki The Void Slapped was a threat to the entire multiverse
The Strange he slapped was above any other previous form of doctor strange
seems pretty 2-A to me u know
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It's better to just wait for either Sandman, Eficiente or Prince to respond, as such there is seemingly no point in bumping this. Likely wait a week and go remind them again before bumping this once more.
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Just gonna point out Yahweh should also scale to 2A for being way above Uriel, whose equal to Mephisto in his own realm.
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Really? I thought 2A in general was being discussed here (you know, with Odin and Franklin being brought up as well)
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Odin is getting his own thread and Franklin was excluded from this one. At this point we're trying to upgrade the characters as listed in the OP first
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Very well.
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i actually agree with almost all of this execpt just a flat out 2A sentry
as i see it sentries power should very depending on his mental stability at the moment
and it should very from 4-B(the power of a million suns) to 2-A as fully stable sentry/void/all new sentry
as there are feats that put void alone far above the likes of skyfathers
as seen when a disimpodied/seperated from sentry void was able to take on both yggdrasil empowered stranage and sorcer supreme loki who was able to fight and beat strange with the power of yggdrasil and void was beating them easily and they only won due to sentries help
not to mention that sentry was able to take on a bunch of asgardians including the brother of odin Cul Borso who is 2-C
seen here
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5f3f-bbd...K80FWy6wcfPU4D_FcGUMd_wgwCHMYCw/s0/RCO016.jpg
as i see it sentries power should very depending on his mental stability at the moment
and it should very from 4-B(the power of a million suns) to 2-A as fully stable sentry/void/all new sentry
as there are feats that put void alone far above the likes of skyfathers
as seen when a disimpodied/seperated from sentry void was able to take on both yggdrasil empowered stranage and sorcer supreme loki who was able to fight and beat strange with the power of yggdrasil and void was beating them easily and they only won due to sentries help
not to mention that sentry was able to take on a bunch of asgardians including the brother of odin Cul Borso who is 2-C
seen here
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5f3f-bbd...K80FWy6wcfPU4D_FcGUMd_wgwCHMYCw/s0/RCO016.jpg
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the 4-B sentry is less consistent than 2-A sentry without void body.
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I am not sure what we should do here, given that POTM and Sandman are missing.
Can you summarise what is being suggested to be changed and why in an easily understood manner, as well as which staff members that support it?
Can you summarise what is being suggested to be changed and why in an easily understood manner, as well as which staff members that support it?
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Aren't the last 4 points from Seed's proposed revisions?
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Well, I can also buy a variable power level for Sentry and the Void with 2-A at their peaks. It is Captain Britain, Doctor Doom, the Deathseed, and Odin that I am very uncertain about.
Odin's own feats are also strictly of a 2-C level at their maximum, and it would mess up our scaling to go beyond that.
Odin's own feats are also strictly of a 2-C level at their maximum, and it would mess up our scaling to go beyond that.
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Not to derail, but just wanted to point out that most of Odin's best feats involve Yggdrasil, which has been stated to be a 2-B - 2-A structure at times.
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