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The Marvel Multiverse is still alive despite Yggdrasil dying. This proves that Alonik's interpretation of Yggdrasil is bull.
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The Black Winter was said to have killed the Sixth Multiverse, and even then, this is irrelevant to the current subject.Matthew Schroeder said:Yggdrasil just withered and died as a result of the Black Winter. RIP.
This is meaningless to my argument. The Black Winter has yet to still kill the current cosmos, and yet it destroying Yggdrasil didn't bring down the whole multiverse with it. Because Yggdrasil is nowhere near as big as y'all say it is.Kepekley23 said:The Black Winter was said to have killed the Sixth Multiverse, and even then, this is irrelevant to the current subject.
It absolutely matters when this is the crux of this whole discussion. Please, don't poison the well and be consistent.Kepekley23 said:Okay, sure, but that doesn't matter.
That's not the point I'm making, Kep, can you read my posts? Either Yggdrasil' size and role in the Marvel Multiverse matters or it doesn't, or for the longest time you were all more than eager to suggest that Yggdrasil was actually a High 1-B / Low 1-A / 1-A / Whatever Cosmic Axis that binded the whole omniverse together as an argument for Thor being as strong as he was, but now that we have irrefutable evidence for that not being the case you are more than happy to drop the issue as if it never matter.Kepekley23 said:The focus on Yggdrasil was centered around the first two threads only.
It actually does but okay. Yggdrasil only containing the 10 realms as it always has puts extreme doubts on the absurd hyperbolic interpretations of TWSAIS as being 1-A when they exclusively feed out of Yggdrasil's cycle.Kepekley23 said:It can be whichever one you want, because it doesn't matter, hasn't mattered for two threads, and doesn't need to matter. You can argue that Yggdrasil is only Tier 2 or whatever; that's fine. It doesn't change anything we have argued in this thread or the last.
Also didn't Ant and Matthew said we couldn't use any future issues to support 1-A or whatever but they are literally trying to use something outside of Al's run to refute our claims.Kepekley23 said:It'd be better off if we got back to that instead of going on about stuff from two threads ago as if it still affected the current discussion.
In the comic itself is said that the Black winter consume entire realities, and the story make our sure that the entire multiverse will be erased from existence.Matthew Schroeder said:The Marvel Multiverse is still alive despite Yggdrasil dying. This proves that Alonik's interpretation of Yggdrasil is bull.
The only person who has to provide evidence here is you, including the evidence that Black winter isn't destroying the multiverse when history shows something different of your interpretation.Matthew Schroeder said:Please provide actual evidence of that beyond your speculation.
Why are you acting like part of Matt's personal defense force? He misrepresented an event, then flatly contradicted himself in order to win an internet argument, with no admission of wrong. That's a clear display of lying, and it's not wrong to call it out as such.Antvasima said:Stop with the personal attacks please. He likely misremembered or misunderstood.
Frankly, not just "fairly" hostile. Both sides have been extremely hostile, far more than any regular heated thread. I made a comment about this before; if you aren't in a position where you feel you can calmly debate about this, then don't debate about it.DarkDragonMedeus said:To be honest, both sides have been fairly hostile. And it would be good if that stopped completely.
I deleted the post with a personal attack. It wasn't from you.Alonik said:Nobody made a personal attack, i'm just demanding his position.
Agreed.DarkDragonMedeus said:To be honest, both sides have been fairly hostile. And it would be good if that stopped completely.
I rather cut to the chase and say most people had agree to a 2-A|possiby 1-C|1-C RKT. Even Matt entertained the thought and was more willing to go with that.Antvasima said:I am also tired of this. Can somebody summarise the remaining justification for Low 1-A RKT, with Yggdrasil proven to be of a far more limited scale, in an easy to understand manner?
This isn't "Matt's way or the highway" wiki. Stop acting like it is.Matthew Schroeder said:I take offense to the idea of giving a compromise just to appease people who will never shut up.