Marvel Comics Massive Lifting Strength upgrade for the 9-B's and 8-C's

[M3X_2.0]

I think the calc is a bit wanked given the speed, I mean, he did not blitz them, he just attacked them lol.

 

[M3X_2.0]

First and second one are fine, although still higher than what's usually lifts or deal with.

 

[Jason_Courne]

I think the calc is a bit wanked given the speed, I mean, he did not blitz them, he just attacked them lol.

Peak Human shouldn't be too much of a blitz, but should I use Average / Athletic speed instead?

• 5/(.133/5)*181.437/9.807 = 3.4 tonne-forces
• 7.7/(.133/7.7)*181.437/9.807 = 8.2 tonne-forces

although still higher than what's usually lifts or deal with

So what do you think of a possibly rating? Adding a note or something like "Class 5 (Insert feats) possibly Class K (Insert feats, although he has struggled to consistently showcase feats of this level)

 

[M3X_2.0]

Peak Human shouldn't be too much of a blitz, but should I use Average / Athletic speed instead?

• 5/(.133/5)*181.437/9.807 = 3.4 tonne-forces
• 7.7/(.133/7.7)*181.437/9.807 = 8.2 tonne-forces

These both works, I think they’re better.

So what do you think of a possibly rating? Adding a note or something like "Class 5 (Insert feats) possibly Class K (Insert feats, although he has struggled to consistently showcase feats of this level)

I think it wouldn’t work, I mean, Daredevil being AT LEAST Class 5/100 and AT MOST Class K means he can lift stuff between these tiers but he’s capped at Class K due to an obvious limit. Even if something is below what was calced as his limit, let’s say, a few tons below it, it’s still tough for him to pull that. You get what I mean?

 

[Jason_Courne]

I think it wouldn’t work, I mean, Daredevil being AT LEAST Class 5/100 and AT MOST Class K means he can lift stuff between these tiers but he’s capped at Class K due to an obvious limit. Even if something is below what was calced as his limit, let’s say, a few tons below it, it’s still tough for him to pull that. You get what I mean?

Yeah I got it, so what do you think should be used as the lower end? Class 5, Class 10, or Class 100?
(Also what are your thoughts on the other street tier lifting strength?)

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

Mostly we just need to reach a conclusion on Daredevil's low end lifting strength, should it be Class 5 or Class 10?
I think his Class 100 calc could just be lumped with his Class K rating

 

[M3X_2.0]

should it be Class 5 or Class 10?

5.

I think his Class 100 calc could just be lumped with his Class K rating

That's a good idea.

 

[Jason_Courne]

That's a good idea.

Ok good, now that Daredevil and his supporting class are figured out
Should the other 9-B street tiers get a similar rating? Unlike Daredevil's section of Marvel, other street tiers have more consistently performed feats within the Class K range

 

[M3X_2.0]

I don't really mind them, they don't relate to Daredevil in any way.

 

[Jason_Courne]

I don't really mind them, they don't relate to Daredevil in any way.

Ok, I'll add you to agree now (and also specify Daredevil's rating)

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I agree with applying the evaluated calculations.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

Just to restate it

• 9-B and above characters are getting "Class K" lifting strength due to a combination of Daredevil, Falcon, and Deadpool's consistent feats within the tier
  • Daredevil and his supporting cast (Bullseye, Punisher, and Elektra) will be getting "At least Class 5, at most Class K" due to being less fantastical in nature
• 8-C characters are getting "Class M" lifting strength stemming from Wolverine and Captain America's consistent feats within the tier

Currently agreed: @Excel616, @Marvel_Champion_07, @Tomfer, @M3X_2.0, @Maverick_Zero_X

 

[Antvasima]

It is probably fine to apply then.

 

[Jason_Courne]

It is probably fine to apply then.

Ok I'll start going through the profiles

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Alright I finished Falcon, Deadpool, Daredevil, and Wolverine (basically the main profiles needed for scaling)
I'm going to start working alphabetically and make a list of profiles that need to be unlocked as well

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

What currently needs to be done here?

 

[Jason_Courne]

I have finished the A through C street tiers, I need Black Panther and Captain America's pages unlocked

I'm just sorta working page by page

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I need Black Panther and Captain America's pages unlocked

I have unlocked them

 

[Jason_Courne]

I have unlocked them

Ok I've finished both of their profiles

 

[Tomfer]

Since this was accepted, we are agreed that Class K and Class M are the new standard for the marvel street gang?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Since this was accepted, we are agreed that Class K and Class M are the new standard for the marvel street gang?

Not everyone.

 

[Tomfer]

Not everyone.

Maybe the 9-B's we can imagine being physically stronger than DD? Like Iron Fist, Moon Knight and Shang-Chi?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Maybe the 9-B's we can imagine being physically stronger than DD? Like Iron Fist, Moon Knight and Shang-Chi?

They’re likely not physically stronger than DD, although they barely interact nowadays so I don’t have any issues.

 

[Tomfer]

They’re likely not physically stronger than DD, although they barely interact nowadays so I don’t have any issues.

This assumption of mine comes from them dipping in the supernatural and mystical from time to time while DD usually is treated as peak human, and I can see them as class K as well.

 

[Excellence616]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

What are the conclusions here so far?

 

[Tomfer]

What are the conclusions here so far?

It was already agreed and it was applied to a few profiles already. OP said he was working alphabetically but no further information was given.

 

[Jason_Courne]

What are the conclusions here so far?

It was already agreed and it was applied to a few profiles already. OP said he was working alphabetically but no further information was given.

Right now I've been searching and compiling feats for calculations (currently I am done with D-F, I just need to get some calculations done)

 

[Jason_Courne]

Alright so here are the ratings for the rest of E-F

Emma Frost (Diamond form): Class M

• Overpowered Daken from behind, slamming him hard enough to crack the floor | Dark Avengers (2009), #8 | Class K feat, Class M scaling
• Easily overpowered Laura Kinney, and throwing her hard enough to make a crater | X-Men Unlimited: Infinity Comic #38 | Class M scaling (Laura's profile needs to be updated as comparable to Wolverine)

Equinox: Class K

• Wrestled and traded blows with Falcon, tackling him out of a window | Marvel Comics Presents #147 | Class K scaling

Falcon II (Joaquin Torres): Class K

• Ripped open the back of a van | Unknown source | Class 100 to Class K
• Comparable to Sam Wilson | Class K scaling

Fantomex:

• Threw a cyborg through a concrete wall | Uncanny X Force 2010 #5 | Class K
• Has kicked away a charging Deadpool | Class K scaling

Flag Smasher:

• Capable of pinning one of Moon Knight’s arms | Class K scaling (Moon Knight's profile needs to be updated as comparable to Daredevil)

Free Spirit:

• Comparable to Captain America and Jack Flag | Class M

It was a little difficult because of how few appearances most of these guys have made

 

[Tomfer]

Capable of pinning one of Moon Knight’s arms | At least Class 5, up to Class K scaling

You're putting Moon Knight among the Daredevil supporting cast? It's not really a good case for him since he barely interacts with DD.

(Moon Knight's profile needs to be updated as comparable to Daredevil)

Already tried something similar

Moon Knight LS Upgrade

From Class 1 (From scaling to Punisher and being able to snap necks) to Class K: Feats: Held a collapsing building, even when getting punched (Vengeance of the Moon Knight Vol 1 5) Held Black Cat down and tossed her away in a single page (Marc Spector: Moon Knight Vol 1 5) Tackled and briefly...

vsbattles.com

 

[Jason_Courne]

Already tried something similar

Moon Knight LS Upgrade

From Class 1 (From scaling to Punisher and being able to snap necks) to Class K: Feats: Held a collapsing building, even when getting punched (Vengeance of the Moon Knight Vol 1 5) Held Black Cat down and tossed her away in a single page (Marc Spector: Moon Knight Vol 1 5) Tackled and briefly...

vsbattles.com

Alright I'll put Flag Smasher under normal Class K then

 

[Tomfer]

Alright I'll put Flag Smasher under normal Class K then

My thread was somewhat rejected, but an argument was made to scale MK to DP. So Flag = MK = DP. Also, there's a few feats there if you wish to look at a later date.

 

[Antvasima]

Alright so here are the ratings for the rest of E-F

Emma Frost (Diamond form): Class M

• Overpowered Daken from behind, slamming him hard enough to crack the floor | Dark Avengers (2009), #8 | Class K feat, Class M scaling
• Easily overpowered Laura Kinney, and throwing her hard enough to make a crater | X-Men Unlimited: Infinity Comic #38 | Class M scaling (Laura's profile needs to be updated as comparable to Wolverine)

Equinox: Class K

• Wrestled and traded blows with Falcon, tackling him out of a window | Marvel Comics Presents #147 | Class K scaling

Falcon II (Joaquin Torres): Class K

• Ripped open the back of a van | Unknown source | Class 100 to Class K
• Comparable to Sam Wilson | Class K scaling

Fantomex:

• Threw a cyborg through a concrete wall | Uncanny X Force 2010 #5 | Class K
• Has kicked away a charging Deadpool | Class K scaling

Flag Smasher:

• Capable of pinning one of Moon Knight’s arms | Class K scaling (Moon Knight's profile needs to be updated as comparable to Daredevil)

Free Spirit:

• Comparable to Captain America and Jack Flag | Class M

It was a little difficult because of how few appearances most of these guys have made

This seems acceptable to me.