Moon Knight LS Upgrade

[Tomfer]

From Class 1 (From scaling to Punisher and being able to snap necks) to Class K:

Feats:
Held a collapsing building, even when getting punched (Vengeance of the Moon Knight Vol 1 5)
Held Black Cat down and tossed her away in a single page (Marc Spector: Moon Knight Vol 1 5)
Tackled and briefly wrestle with Punisher, who should also get at most Class K from scaling to Daredevil (Marc Spector: Moon Knight Vol 1 36)
Tackled and pinned Deadpool on the ground (Vengeace of the Moon Knight Vol 1 8)

Iffy feats:
Tossed the Beast, who possesed Daredevil, through a brick wall (Shadowland: Moon Knight 2)
Bullseye briefly struggled wrestling against Moon Knight (Moon Knight Vol 5 25)

Who gets affected by this?

Hunter's Moon (They should be comparable to almost everything except fighting experience and a few abilities)
Possibly Tigra (Tackled him when undercover as Midnight Man - Moon Knight Vol 9 22)
Kang (It's a good thing I'm talking about this because Kang and Moon Knight interacted ONCE and the only physical LS of Kang is of him holding Moon Knight, he will technically get upgraded, but I think it's best "Unknown, likely Class K" since it's his ONLY feat for now)

 

[Excellence616]

I agree with Opay

 

[Tomfer]

Updated the OP with a new supportive feat.

 

[Duedate8898]

It would be good if you could get the building feat calced since that's you're main supporting thing and see what values we get from that. Besides that, it looks like Black Cat's scaling is currently broken so we don't actually know why she's Class K. Pinning Deadpool could work as supporting evidence.

And everyone scaling from Daredevil is kinda iffy since currently his LS ranges so I think we'd have to have greater context as to why these characters could compare to his peak lifting Strength instead of his minimum

 

[Tomfer]

It would be good if you could get the building feat calced since that's you're main supporting thing and see what values we get from that.

I did ask two people already and the two said it's almost incalculable, asked a few calc members, but I didn't get much of an answer either.

Besides that, it looks like Black Cat's scaling is currently broken so we don't actually know why she's Class K.

Because of this thread.

 

[Tomfer]

Bump

 

[Tomfer]

Bump²

 

[Vzearr]

I feel like a "possibly" class K would be good, since it's really hard to tell what he was doing.

 

[Tomfer]

I feel like a "possibly" class K would be good, since it's really hard to tell what he was doing.

Possibly doesn't make sense here when he has three feats against other Class K characters.

Also I updated the OP to put all feats in a single category since the main feat is useless without proper calc.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I pretty much agree with Duedate.

The feat needs to be calced, but him scaling off of Deadpool should work.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It would be good if you could get the building feat calced since that's you're main supporting thing and see what values we get from that. Besides that, it looks like Black Cat's scaling is currently broken so we don't actually know why she's Class K. Pinning Deadpool could work as supporting evidence.

And everyone scaling from Daredevil is kinda iffy since currently his LS ranges so I think we'd have to have greater context as to why these characters could compare to his peak lifting Strength instead of his minimum

Makes sense to me.

 

[Tomfer]

The feat needs to be calced, but him scaling off of Deadpool should work.

Honestly I agree, this is the best move for now.

 

[Tomfer]

It would be good if you could get the building feat calced since that's you're main supporting thing and see what values we get from that. Besides that, it looks like Black Cat's scaling is currently broken so we don't actually know why she's Class K. Pinning Deadpool could work as supporting evidence.

And everyone scaling from Daredevil is kinda iffy since currently his LS ranges so I think we'd have to have greater context as to why these characters could compare to his peak lifting Strength instead of his minimum

I pretty much agree with Duedate.

The feat needs to be calced, but him scaling off of Deadpool should work.

Makes sense to me.

Does everyone agree to just scale Moon Knight to Deadpool?

 

[Tomfer]

Bump³

 

[Tomfer]

Fellas, I'm this close of straight up putting a bounty on that LS building feat for whoever calcs that, the winner gets 5$ or something, dunno, lmao.

Consider this a bump.

 

[ZawierJ]

OP make sense to me.

 

[Tomfer]

Bump

 

[Shiraito983]

agree with your post

 

[Tomfer]

Bump

 

[Tomfer]

Bump

 

[Tomfer]

Bump

 

[Tomfer]

bump

 

[SamanPatou]

Held a collapsing building, even when getting punched (Vengeance of the Moon Knight Vol 1 5)

This looks good but shouldn't scale to MK's default LS. He states that he needs to lock the armor at the joints and let the carbonadium hold the weight, meaning the feat is accomplished because of his equipment.
I can see this feat being classified as an "Up to Class X via armor" or something, not even entirely because they don't specify if the armor also allows him to lift or move such weights, instead of simply holding them.

Held Black Cat down and tossed her away in a single page (Marc Spector: Moon Knight Vol 1 5)

I don't think this counts for scaling, the take down was very brief and tossing someone away only requires to overcome their physical weight, as if they were object, not overpower their physical might altogether.

Tackled and briefly wrestle with Punisher, who should also get at most Class K from scaling to Daredevil (Marc Spector: Moon Knight Vol 1 36)

I'm not too familiar with how we handle DD's scaling, but these also don't really look like LS feats.
Tackling someone once again requires you to overcome their weight, unless they actively anchor themselves to the floor. The subsequent wrestling also doesn't really look like it, MK just stands on him and gets off after two panels, there really isn't any struggle.

Tackled and pinned Deadpool on the ground (Vengeace of the Moon Knight Vol 1 8)

I don't see him pinning DP down honestly, he pounces on him, stabs him and leaves, once again MK didn't exert any particular force on him.

Tossed the Beast, who possesed Daredevil, through a brick wall (Shadowland: Moon Knight 2)

That's a punch, so it's AP, not LS.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bullseye_(Marvel_Comics)

Bullseye briefly struggled wrestling against Moon Knight (Moon Knight Vol 5 25)

BS really just stopped his wrist and that's it, I don't really see it as scaling.

From what I know of MK he's kinda on the same ballpark of other street characters and often teams up or fights them, so logically I believe be could scale, but I'm sure there are better showings somewhere.

 

[Tomfer]

Common Tomfer L.

From what I know of MK he's kinda on the same ballpark of other street characters and often teams up or fights them, so logically I believe be could scale, but I'm sure there are better showings somewhere.

Most of the street levels will be found in Class K in anyway since of this thread:

Marvel Comics Massive Lifting Strength upgrade for the 9-B's and 8-C's

I think the calc is a bit wanked given the speed, I mean, he did not blitz them, he just attacked them lol.

vsbattles.com

I can see this feat being classified as an "Up to Class X via armor" or something, not even entirely because they don't specify if the armor also allows him to lift or move such weights, instead of simply holding them.

I agree tbh.

 

[Excellence616]

bump

 

[Tomfer]

bump

This thread was somewhat rejected (mainly feats), but a compromise was found in scaling MK to DP. The building feat was agreed to be equipment only.

So something like "Class K (Comparable to Deadpool), higher with equipment (Armor feat here)"

 

[Excellence616]

So something like "Class K (Comparable to Deadpool), higher with equipment (Armor feat here)"

This make sense

 

[Tomfer]

Bump