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So negative zone and subspace remains high 1-B.Driger-God said:
That can be said for most marvel characters. Heck, it can be said for most characters. Mario doesn't exactly go around star-busting.Antvasima said:Well, I seem to be outvoted here. I still think that the Marvel cosmic entities are almost consistently portrayed at a far more limited scale than we portray them at though.
You're first scan seems to confirm the opposite. The wording is "the Negative Zone *of* limitless subspace" meaning, the Negative Zone is within/a part of subspace, not the other way around.Driger-God said:
So this is from ghost rider 2099, the only hint as to which layer they're transcending to is that it's self defining, which would imply the Superflow or something similar. Though I really doubt this was the intent, since the superflow is from a completely different continuity and author from decades later. I guess if we are trying to tie together decades of disparate, mostly unconnected stories and interpretations, then that's what it'd probably means.Matthew Schroeder said:Can we please not bring up this whole "Let's downgrade Marvel to Tier 2!" shitck to this thread too? I get that it's your thing but it's getting tiresome.
im Speaking Zako.ZakoBrandoOverBlade said:You forgot The One Above All.
On the scan is saying the negative zone has an limitless sub-space, is spoken even of the areas in the negative zone before that.Zensum said:You're first scan seems to confirm the opposite. The wording is "the Negative Zone *of* limitless subspace" meaning, the Negative Zone is within/a part of subspace, not the other way around.Driger-God said:
We have an explicit definition of what the Negative Zone, Subspace/Crossroads are as shown in my first post, nothing to interpret. From the crossroads you can travel to any place including the NZ.Driger-God said:"Negative Zone of limitless sub-space" doesn't mean something like sub-space>negative zone. Or Negative Zone within Sub-Space. The idea is Negative Zone have an sub-space infinite. You are imposing your interpretation...
The Crossroad is within the negative zone in the last scan.
I posted the scan for what the Negative Zone is. The other scan is in the OP as explained in my first post.Alonik said:We had your interpretation of the scan in FF #51, not an explicit explanation.
Even there in heimdall vision says exactly what Driger-God said, which you evaded and did not answer now.
From the edge of the terrifying distortion zone to the deadly exploding atmosphere of the anti-matter area, he seaches the remote frontier bordering the negative zone of limitless sub-space. |
It is not. The Eighth Omniverse and its abstracts are far more powerful than the Seventh Omniverse's, period. Even the First Firmament states as much.Matthew Schroeder said:Also from the way I'm seeing things I'm not sure I get how Eternity can contain the Neutral Zone but still be weaker than Beyonders.
Hyperspace is the subspace itself, in the Marvel Glossary says it's the same thing only as with different name.The 2nd Existential Seed said:I wanted to know if Hyperspace & Subspace are connected and be scaled off each other [for future use] . But I do agree with Whis that the Avatars are a big issue here.
The fact that him being 2-C is so, so disgustingly downplayed.The 2nd Existential Seed said:Also, what the heck is wrong with Rune King Thor ?
I. Being Low 1-A isn't exclusive to possessing uncountably infinite higher dimensions. Anything that transcends a High 1-B hierarchy is enough to be rated as such. This is outright stated in our Tiering System page.Antvasima said:Anyway, can somebody please explain to me where an uncountable number of higher dimensions, that are treated as equivalent to higher infinities, are mentioned here? It seems like we are making an upgrade by selectively sewing together extremely separate completely unconnected stories decades apart from different authors. It is most likely very unreliable for a setting as ridiculously inconsistent as Marvel.