Martian Manhunter Regen Upgrade

[Eden_Warlock99]

In JLA: Rock of Ages (JLA # 13) Batman claimed to kill him physically you need to destroy every one of his atoms, which would give him High Regen

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Seems interesting; this does imply that smashing every single atom one by one isn't enough to permanently kill John.

 

[VinnyXD]

Following. Wondering if it's consistent

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Following. Wondering if it's consistent

It is as long as there are no anti feats. Supporting this for now

 

[Planck69]

Makes sense to me.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I agree

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Looks good

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems to make sense.

@Zensum @C2_of_Omegon @Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @Newendigo @Ehnkr2beboh @Deagonx @Elizio33

What do you think about this?

 

[Deagonx]

Makes sense to me.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Seems uncontroversial and is very blatant, cited and all. It's fine to add in my book.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. It is probably fine to add then.

 

[Newendigo]

Okay, but how does this correlates to his weakness with fire.

Because I will tell you, fire definetly doesn't destroy atoms, normal one at least which he has been affected.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Has he ever been killed by being burned to ash though?

 

[Eficiente]

This is not correct, Batman didn't say that "to kill him physically you need to destroy every one of his atoms", he said that he's hard to kill and then said how someone did so/tried that by smashing every atom of his body 1 by 1. If you get killed by the same then you don't have any regen because of it, "I kill you via this"=/="you can survive everything 1% less complex than it". Smashing also isn't the same as destroying, the atoms could have just gotten messed up.

 

[Antvasima]

Eficiente seems to make a good point.

 

[CR_Catinho]

Unrelated to the CRT

But i Just noticed that his range section still says Multi-univeral instead of Low Multiversal.

Should be fixed aswell

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah the scan didn't say that MMH needs to be atomized to be killed, just that when they killed him they did so by atomizing him.

 

[Eficiente]

Remember @everyone, please always pretty much quote what you link, and then either make the deduction of what it means w/o linking anything or leave the reader do that for themselves.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Ok looking back this really doesn’t imply that this is the only way J’ohn can be killed, just that this is a possible way

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Having read the page several times, I don't see where the feat is. J'onn was captured by Desaad and tortured. Desaad got tired of it and tried to kill J'onn by putting him through a particle accelerator after he proved so difficult to kill.

There's no implication J'onn survived at all. In fact, Bat's statement implies that J'onn is dead, even. So, yeah, this doesn't seem like a feat to me.

 

[Deagonx]

Yeah I considered pointing out that the scan doesn't necessarily indicate atomization is a requirement, but I still think in the context (Batman saying he's hard to kill) that the fact that Desaad resorted to those means indicates that his regen is very close to that.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Yeah I considered pointing out that the scan doesn't necessarily indicate atomization is a requirement, but I still think in the context (Batman saying he's hard to kill) that the fact that Desaad resorted to those means indicates that his regen is very close to that.

See, my thing with that, is that we don't get to see Desaad's methodology or reasoning, it's hard to say if that was the case. Desaad putting J'onn through a particle accelerator could be because that was required to kill him OR because Desaad decided to go overkill to make sure he would die.

This is why I don't like basing things off of off-screen feats, because we're left in the dark of what actually happened.

 

[Deagonx]

Yeah I see what you mean. I think "possibly" or "likely" might be appropriate in this context.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Actually, Eficiente makes sense to me; Low-High seems more consistent.

 

[Planck69]

Eficiente makes sense, thinking on it more.

 

[Eficiente]

Yeah I see what you mean. I think "possibly" or "likely" might be appropriate in this context.

Sorry but there is no reason to it, the feat isn't vague but non-existent.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Sorry but there is no reason to it, the feat isn't vague but non-existent.

Pretty much. J'onn was killed via being fed to a particle accelerator. That's all the scene confirms. There's no other details to really work with.

 

[Firestorm808]

This is not correct, Batman didn't say that "to kill him physically you need to destroy every one of his atoms", he said that he's hard to kill and then said how someone did so/tried that by smashing every atom of his body 1 by 1. If you get killed by the same then you don't have any regen because of it, "I kill you via this"=/="you can survive everything 1% less complex than it". Smashing also isn't the same as destroying, the atoms could have just gotten messed up.

I was reading the scan and thought the same. "Did MM live? Where's the regen?"

 

[Antvasima]

I agree that this seems very unreliable. Thank you for helping out Eficiente.

Also, is some staff member here willing to correct MM's range statistic?