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changed to just standard equipment
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Mario vs Chara
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No, that's a NLF to assume they can just pull a vegito and just still use their abilities while transmutated into a object.
ShionAH
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Human souls did it via being 6x better than frisk with base DT
Eden_Warlock99
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All DT abilities can be nulled, not sure if Mario has that type of powernull tho
ZespeonGalaxy
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If its changed to standard equipment I'll change my vote to incon 
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His powernull is just your basic powernull that can effect anything.
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SameIf its changed to standard equipment I'll change my vote to incon
Eden_Warlock99
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So Mario's wincons now are... freezing Chara?
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could mario even freeze chara in the first place, chara AE1 is not restricted as of yet so mario wouldn't even be able to interact with em, it seems
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Well, there goes hours of my life. This is a stomp.
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yeah but how, a laser beam that nullifies? just standing around the item null the abilities?
not gonna lie, this one seems to just be null of invulnerability and barriers, dimentio could still use numerous abilities during the fight
yes they can, unless you think they are conscious after death
does the powernull stays active after death?
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also chara is abstract type 1, what can mario even do?
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Not sure on that one tbh, the links broken for me.
I think that's because of game mechanics. If it power nulled everything like its supposed to, there wouldn't be a fight in the first place.
I mean, yeah, they seem to be conscious after death, being able to make the decision to load or reset at the death screen.
I'd assume so, since it power nulled The Dark Hearts abilities even after the one using them lost.
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so now that it is just normal equipment, voting chara
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Bruh it's a stomp
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Yeah, BEFORE as in they don't have that power unless they have a body. That's making the assumption that chara with the body has that AE 1 on Fisk's body and not just chara without one.
If Mario can't interact with chara then chara can't interact with Mario since they can't interact with anything without a host. That's what I mean by it's not combat applicable.
Chaos Jester25
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Chara’s 2-C/B key is referring to Chara at the end of the genocide route. By the end of the genocide route, Chara has already obtained a physical form. They don’t need a host anymore.
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Then solve this continuity error you just made: why didn't chara just delete the timeline rather than bothering asking for Fisk's soul if they have a physical body now.
Chaos Jester25
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That doesn't prove they have that type of power as just purely a abstract if they clearly have control over the host body and don't let you have a choice. Plus type 1 AE can have NP avatars to the abstraction so chara just being visable to frisk doesn't mean they sudenly have a seperate body now.
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Uhh incon for now
ZespeonGalaxy
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So whats the current verdict? Not the final one ofc but current
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If Chara has AE, it's a stomp. If she doesn't, then IDK.
ZespeonGalaxy
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So is her AE combat applicable?
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It just makes it so Mario can't even effect her.
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what are the votes but this seems to be an incon
ZespeonGalaxy
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Count the votes you made the thread 
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bruh ok
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seems to be 3 incons and 3 chara and no votes for mario after i changed it to base equipment
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write it on the op
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added
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does he tho? for what i saw in the clip it doesn't seem to power null everything, but just invulnerability
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That's for the sake of a fun boss fight. It was only allowed to power null the thing that allowed the player to beat the boss, but not the stuff that would make the boss a cake walk.
DaMonkeMan
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If you still vote for her why mention the fact that the AE isn't there
ShionAH
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If AE is there its a stomp lolIf you still vote for her why mention the fact that the AE isn't there
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