Maou Gakuin Source/ Root Type 1 Concept: Round 2

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sources do not govern type 1 concepts, nothing of sort is happening, nothing even close is happening
it is not potency but how it works
I see you actually avoided what I said,
1. who is the conformist?
2. Scans that ordinary sources reducing or getting destroyed means the world destruction

This is talking about ordinary sources

"The bubble world is an unevolved small world. In the Silver Sea, it can be said to be an unborn world, because the Bubble World does not have a Chief God and Sovereign. Without the Chief God, there is no complete control over the order of the Small World, and without the Sovereign, the inhabitants of the small world will continue to fight. It's easy to imagine what will happen."

Worlds reality gets affected by inhabitants existence too it's talking about them fighting and dying losing fire dew in the process.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Gods are the manifestation of Order though

When I say fire dew, i mean the one that governs worlds
and when I say source I mean the one that governs humans
Do not play semantics with me

It is potency

That is what you think, they work vastly differently from all your scans

An evolved life born from constant fighting.

Okay

Bruh? What do you think all the previous scans i sent about fire dew had? Or do you think only losing the fire dew of the conformist / chief god leads the world to destruction?

Yes which means conformists are better and have more powerful sources, which further means sources are personal concepts since they are not all the same and it is an individual thing

This is talking about ordinary sources

Worlds reality gets affected by inhabitants existence too it's talking about them fighting and dying losing fire dew in the process.

I am not seeing what you are seeing, cause nothing in your scans says "destruction of ordinary sources measn the world will get closer to destruction" since that is what I asked for and not this

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

When I say fire dew, i mean the one that governs worlds
and when I say source I mean the one that governs humans
Do not play semantics with me

That is what you think, they work vastly differently from all your scans

Okay

Yes which means conformists are better and have more powerful sources, which further means sources are personal concepts since they are not all the same and it is an individual thing

I am not seeing what you are seeing, cause nothing in your scans says "destruction of ordinary sources measn the world will get closer to destruction" since that is what I asked for and not this

Dude inhabitants that scans says is ordinary people themselves.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Dude inhabitants that scans says is ordinary people themselves.

it says without the chief God the inhabitants will continue to fight and not

"destruction of ordinary sources measn the world will get closer to destruction"

which was what I asked for

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

it says without the chief God the inhabitants will continue to fight and not

which was what I asked for

You understand why the fire dew gets decreased in the World? Because inhabitants (ordinary people) fights in the first place due to constant death fire dew gets decreased. You can clearly see the scan for Misha mom fire dew flowing outside of the world.

 

[PrinceofPein]

You understand why the fire dew gets decreased in the World? Because inhabitants (ordinary people) fights in the first place due to constant death fire dew gets decreased. You can clearly see the scan for Misha mom fire dew flowing outside of the world.

I do not understand this honestly, it is something that is supposed to be straightforward with a scan or two.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I do not understand this honestly, it is something that is supposed to be straightforward with a scan or two.

Dude you see the scan in OP where Bubble world are stated to passively destroyed? Also you see the scan where explanation states due to constant fighting of the inhabitants world will be destroyed both are talking about same reality. Due to them fighting and dying losing fire dew makes the reality disappear.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Could I get a TLDR analysis on both sides?

 

[Tatsumi504]

That is what you think, they work vastly differently from all your scans

How is it different? Diminishing Fire Dew is what's causing the worlds destruction

Yes which means conformists are better and have more powerful sources, which further means sources are personal concepts since they are not all the same and it is an individual thing

You realize that a conformist is still born from a regular source right? It's existence is the end result from endless conflict, an evolved life. When they are born their existence strengthens fire dew which strengthens order and leads to the birth of the chief god.
Conformists don't exist from the beginning of time. So answer this. What is causing the worlds destruction/ collapse if not the loss of normal sources/ fire dew

 

[Tatsumi504]

Could I get a TLDR analysis on both sides?

New argument is the source is fire dew.
Order (type 1 concepts) is dependent on fire dew. The amount of fire dew in a world diminishing causes order to weaken and constantly leads the world to destruction.
Fire Dew isn't affected by the destruction of reality, even if the world is destroyed the fire dew from it just flows into the silver sea and settles inside another world.
Fire Dew predates both Order and the world itself since it existed even before the original god of creation

TLDR: The source is fire dew, fire dew predates reality, governs reality, is unaffected by the destruction of reality, reality is destroyed by the loss of fire dew.
@PrinceofPein is saying that reality not being destroyed by the loss of 1 persons fire dew means it's not type 1 which is just a potency issue

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Could I get a TLDR analysis on both sides?

New argument is the source is fire dew.
Order type 1 concepts is dependent on fire dew. The amount of fire dew in a world diminishing causes order to weaken and constantly leads the world to destruction.
Fire Dew isn't affected by the destruction of reality, even if the world is destroyed the fire dew from it just flows into the silver sea and settles inside another world.
Fire Dew predates both Order and the world itself since it existed even before the original god of creation

TLDR: The source is fire dew, fire dew predates reality, governs reality, is unaffected by the destruction of reality, reality is destroyed by the loss of fire dew.
@PrinceofPein is saying that reality not being destroyed by the loss of 1 persons fire dew means it's not type 1 which is just a potency issue

@DarkDragonMedeus btw Loss of a Single person fire dew does affects the reality.

"The bubble world is an unevolved small world. In the Silver Sea, it can be said to be an unborn world, because the Bubble World does not have a Chief God and Sovereign. Without the Chief God, there is no complete control over the order of the Small World, and without the Sovereign, the inhabitants of the small world will continue to fight. It's easy to imagine what will happen."
Like a bubble popping, the Bubble World disappears.

It's just AP problem that's all but world does gets destroyed (affected) eventually due to Characters fire dew getting lost. Inhabitants constantly fights and kills each other when character dies source/fire dew would move on. Hence Bubble world (Reality) will be destroyed.

You can see the above scan how inhabitants fights and killing each other will lead the world/reality into destruction.

 

[Fixxed]

Could I get a TLDR analysis on both sides?

Well i think, everything about what we proposed here like what dereck say

Yeah for simply this root is independent from what it govern

What a bad attempt to downgrade source to type 3... It is noted that they have read the definition of type 2 concept by which the source was accepted as such.


Both 1 and 2 are based on the reality of the area they govern, be it a person, a planet, a galaxy, a universe, whatever.


Here we have all the defect, the concept is not bound directly to what it governs, what I mean is that the body, the mind, the spirit, the soul are bound to the source, but the source can be independent of them, so it would not be a concept dependent on what governs but independent, as such, destroying everything that governs the concept would not affect the concept as such, while destroying the concept, would directly destroy everything that governs.

1. Independent Universal Concepts:

As I said, the source governs the concept of existence of each person across the whole space-time, past, present and future, it is completely independent of its governing reality, which is the body, mind, soul, spirit y el abyss. Destroying everything previous does not affect the source, while destroying it would destroy everything that governs, the source is even compared to already pre-existing concepts previously classified as type 1, already with all this is enough to qualify as type 1.


SO PUT ME ON AGREE.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Well i think, everything about what we proposed here like what dereck say

Yeah for simply this root is independent from what it govern

Fixxed Tatsumi has better Justification so i hope you stop posting initial arguments.

It will just confuse the staff who evaluate it. So stop it.

 

[mal]

This is talking about ordinary sources

Worlds reality gets affected by inhabitants existence too it's talking about them fighting and dying losing fire dew in the process.

wait how did that world existed w/o chief God if world will get destroyed without God or is it different god?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

wait how did that world existed w/o chief God if world will get destroyed without God or is it different god?

Those are bubble world which don't have chief god to maintain the order hence people contestantly kills each other with war and other things that would result in decrease of fire dew slowly. Only in some Lucky Bubble worlds a Chief God will be born Unlucky ones gets destroyed because of no fire dew left to Maintain the reality.

 

[PrinceofPein]

How is it different? Diminishing Fire Dew is what's causing the worlds destruction

you have not sent the scans for this, that losing a source causes the world's destruction

You realize that a conformist is still born from a regular source right? It's existence is the end result from endless conflict, an evolved life. When they are born their existence strengthens fire dew which strengthens order and leads to the birth of the chief god.

so someone can evolve and become the chief god, good, still means not all sources are the same, doesnt it?

Conformists don't exist from the beginning of time. So answer this. What is causing the worlds destruction/ collapse if not the loss of normal sources/ fire dew

That is not for me to answer, cause I do not know you have not provided scans for that.

The source is fire dew, fire dew predates reality, governs reality, is unaffected by the destruction of reality, reality is destroyed by the loss of fire dew.
@PrinceofPein is saying that reality not being destroyed by the loss of 1 persons fire dew means it's not type 1 which is just a potency issue

first the source is like fire dew, and not the source is fire dew
the source is to human.
while fire dew is the source of worlds.

the former is tyoe 3, the latter is type 1.

Their roles is different, one governs a person the other governs worlds.

And that will be all I will say here

Could I get a TLDR analysis on both sides?

Well they are trying to argue for sources becoming type 1, while it is type 3 and I think Planck and glassman commented here already and said it is type 3
Check out this thread

https://vsbattles.com/threads/massive-source-downgrades-maou-gakuin.150822/

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

you have not sent the scans for this, that losing a source causes the world's destruction

so someone can evolve and become the chief god, good, still means not all sources are the same, doesnt it?

That is not for me to answer, cause I do not know you have not provided scans for that.

first the source is like fire dew, and not the source is fire dew
the source is to human.
while fire dew is the source of worlds.

the former is tyoe 3, the latter is type 1.

Their roles is different, one governs a person the other governs worlds.

And that will be all I will say here

Well they are trying to argue for sources becoming type 1, while it is type 3 and I think Planck and glassman commented here already and said it is type 3
Check out this thread

https://vsbattles.com/threads/massive-source-downgrades-maou-gakuin.150822/

Stop trying to push that Downgrade thread here plank and Glassman never argued based on fire dew Arguments. Even plank said he is only going based on profile description not based on this thread read his reply.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

first the source is like fire dew, and not the source is fire dew
the source is to human.
while fire dew is the source of worlds.

What direct statement you need otherthan this. Don't see a single word "like" here.

"The <capture magic bullet Rokakuma-dan> shot into the root of yours will show its power when it is destroyed. It delays the extinction of the root and captures the fire dew."

　Elenesia puts her hand on her chest and stares at her own root.

　As the man had mentioned, there was a round jewel-like bullet lodged in her root. And it was supplying power to Elesesia, which should have been destroyed.

With this her existence was become a part of magic bullet world

"In other words, you are now an inhabitant of the world of magic bullets."

Root is the fire dew of one's existence even if they die they can come back with that fire dew this is clear cut statement.

　Even if she could, she would not have long to live. No matter where she perishes, she will be reborn from the fire dew in the world of magic bullets.

　she immediately understood that there was no escape.

Chapter 673

 

[PrinceofPein]

Stop trying to push that Downgrade thread here plank and Glassman never argued based on fire dew Arguments. Even plank said he is only going based on profile description not based on this thread read his reply.

I am not pushing anything, just making sure he has all the context

What direct statement you need otherthan this. Don't see a single word "like" here.

With this her existence was become a part of magic bullet world

Root is the fire dew of one's existence even if they die they can come back with that fire dew this is clear cut statement.

Chapter 673

Sure, something saying she will be reborn from the fire dew of the world means that human source and fire dew are equivalent.
I think I am the only one seeing this.

it is not so hard to provide concrete stuffs, so far all I have seen is that fire dew is the source of the world and humans's source is their own personal source/firedew

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sure, something saying she will be reborn from the fire dew of the world means that human source and fire dew are equivalent.
I think I am the only one seeing this.

it is not so hard to provide concrete stuffs, so far all I have seen is that fire dew is the source of the world and humans's source is their own personal source/firedew

Show me where it was stated both are different there is only one fire dew exists in the verse nowhere stated fire dew of the world and fire dew of the characters are different this is clearly you making things up.

Anyway I am done if you still argue based on your own personal belief of there are two different types of fire dew. I will leave it up to staff to decide.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Show me where it was stated both are different there is only one fire dew exists in the verse nowhere stated fire dew of the world and fire dew of the characters are different this is clearly you making things up.

Anyway I am done if you still argue based on your own personal belief of there are two different types of fire dew. I will leave it up to staff to decide.

So you are saying the same type of source that humans have is what the world has? or is fire dew no longer source?
At least stick to your arguments well

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

So you are saying the same type of source that humans have is what the world has? or is fire dew no longer source?
At least stick to your arguments well

Source is fire dew . I am sticked to only one argument. Complete reality including character Existence itself dependent fire dew. Source was fire dew from the beginning itself.

 

[Tatsumi504]

so someone can evolve and become the chief god, good, still means not all sources are the same, doesnt it?

When did I say that? Pain i know you're not daft so don't make me say the same thing over and over. Only a god can become the chief god

That is not for me to answer, cause I do not know you have not provided scans for that.

How many scans do you need @EldemadeDityjon and I to send you? Loss of Fire Dew pushes the world ever closer to destruction.

So you are saying the same type of source that humans have is what the world has? or is fire dew no longer source?
At least stick to your arguments well

The world has no source. Source is Fire Dew, gradual loss of Fire Dew leads the world ever closer to destruction. How hard is this to understand?

 

[Tatsumi504]

Don't reply to this, Just hoarding scans.

Fire Dew
Something that flows through the Fundamental Laws Cyclic Garden, the domains of the Four Fundamental Laws Gods, equivalent to the term "Source" in the world of mortals. It is born, deepens, meets its demise, changes and cycles back to birth again, gradually decreasing its total amount in the process.

-LN Volume 10 Keyword
​

"Life is something that reincarnates. The root that has been born deepens. That means growth. At the end of the deepening there is an end. The root that has reached the end, however, transforms into a different form. And you will have a new birth.”

WN Chapter 424.​

A visualization of the laws that affect the "Source" of the earth, which flows in the depths of the "Azure Sky of the Gods". It is the very power itself that the world contains, and the strength of the world's order is approximately equivalent to the total amount of fire dew that it contains.

-LN Volume 11 Keyword.​

"If the fire dew is lost, life will be lost in the bubble world. Isn't it possible that the residents who were supposed to be reincarnated will be reborn in another world?"
...
"Why don't you bring back the fire dew? They have their lives too."

"What do you mean? Their life ends when they die. It's just a matter of starting a new life in a new world. It's just a different person with the same origin."
...
"Returning fire dew to the bubble world is a foolish act that erases life. Bubbles will eventually disappear. Throwing life into it is like returning a fish that has finally reached the sea to the land again. It may be different from your world's beliefs, but that's the principle of the Silver sea."

Instead of denying me, Ottorlou said gently.

"It's a very lucky thing for the life that fire dew crosses the world. It's a proof that they were blessed by this sea."

If the bubble world will surely perish, then there is certainly a point.

-WN Chapter 502.​

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Is the WN and LN canon to each other???

 

[Tatsumi504]

Is the WN and LN canon to each other???

Yes the only difference is the LN may explain somethings better or have more information

 

[PrinceofPein]

Well I think I will read the thread again from the beginning, a little lost here.

 

[YoPercy]

Well I think I will read the thread again from the beginning, a little lost here.

You do you

 

[Tatsumi504]

Well I think I will read the thread again from the beginning, a little lost here.

Luckily, it's just 2 pages

 

[PrinceofPein]

When did I say that? Pain i know you're not daft so don't make me say the same thing over and over. Only a god can become the chief god

The presence of a conformist strengthens the fire dew of the world and brings a powerful force to the order. The seed of the world-will possessed by the divine race, one of which will sprout and give birth to a being that can be called the world-will, the World Chief God."

explain this, it clearly says the presence of a conformist allows for the world to give birth to a chief god.

How many scans do you need @EldemadeDityjon and I to send you? Loss of Fire Dew pushes the world ever closer to destruction.

None of that scan says that though, it is a pretty direct statement. and none of those scans seems to mean that

The world has no source. Source is Fire Dew, gradual loss of Fire Dew leads the world ever closer to destruction. How hard is this to understand?

Fire Dew
Something that flows through the Fundamental Laws Cyclic Garden, the domains of the Four Fundamental Laws Gods, equivalent to the term "Source" in the world of mortals.

Aside the fact that this is blatantly saying the fire dew is the equivalent of the term source to humans.
If the world has no source/fire dew so what is the point of your argument. You clearly said fire dew is the one that controls orders of the world and equal to the term source of humans, you even said it is not a simile but literal.
If you want I can tag where you made these statements.

Also it is not hard to understand, you just have not shown anything that proves it.

Since this is turning into another thing, I will wait for your next reply and reply, after that I may not reply again

 

[Tatsumi504]

explain this, it clearly says the presence of a conformist allows for the world to give birth to a chief god.

The presence of a conformist strengthens Order which causes the seeds of world will possessed by the gods to sprout.
The conformist isn't a god, they're an evolved life/ race brought about by constant fighting.
The seeds of world will is something possessed by all gods. In the world of militia for example, it is the gears that's embedded in all gods. If a conformist is born, one of these seeds will sprout and awaken in a god which turns them into an existence known as the chief god.
The militia world however is different. Because Anos disrupted the order of destruction and brought peace, there was nothing to trigger evolution which would cause the creation of an evolved race then graham came along and decided to merge the gears in different gods into one which is how eques came to be.
TLDR, conformists are an evolved race brought about by evolution from continuous destruction, Chief Gods are Gods who have awakened to and become the will of the world.

Aside the fact that this is blatantly saying the fire dew is the equivalent of the term source to humans.

Fire Dew
Something that flows through the Fundamental Laws Cyclic Garden, the domains of the Four Fundamental Laws Gods, equivalent to the term "Source" in the world of mortals. It is born, deepens, meets its demise, changes and cycles back to birth again, gradually decreasing its total amount in the process.

-LN Volume 10 Keyword
​

"Life is something that reincarnates. The root that has been born deepens. That means growth. At the end of the deepening there is an end. The root that has reached the end, however, transforms into a different form. And you will have a new birth.”

WN Chapter 424.​

This is reincarnation. In the mortal world the source exists as the source. For those who haven't been born, those who don't resurrect after death, those who cast <silica> to reincarnate, their source exists as Fire Dew in the Azure Sky of the Gods, cycling through the fundamental laws garden.
The fundamental Gods who govern Life/Source/Fire Dew are Wenzel the God of Birth, Dilfred God of Deepening, Anahem God of the End/Demise, Gyetenaros God of Change/Transformation.

If the world has no source/fire dew so what is the point of your argument. You clearly said fire dew is the one that controls orders of the world and equal to the term source of humans, you even said it is not a simile but literal.
If you want I can tag where you made these statements.

You were saying that like how everyone has a source, the world has it's own source which is fire dew and that is incorrect.
I never said that, stop quoting me wrongly. I said fire dew influences/ governs Order and Fire Dew is the source. Using "equivalent to the source" makes it a simile or comparison while saying "Fire Dew is the Source" means it's the same thing, a direct relationship.

Also it is not hard to understand, you just have not shown anything that proves it.

We literally have many times. Both i and Eldemade have many times. We've even sent scans that mentioned specific peoples Fire Dew, did you perhaps not see any scans that had the name "Elenesia" in them? Or the same scan in my message you quoted which is also in this reply that mentions "Birth, Deepening, Demise, Transformation which is exactly what the source does? That is how reincarnation is achieved now guess the only thing that is born, deepens, dies and transforms and circles back to birth again in the realm of the gods.
If Fire Dew isn't the source then where are the sources that are supposed to be born, deepened, die, transform and be born again?
Did you miss the conversation between Anos and another character talking about People Reincarnating and as such their Fire Dew should be returned to their original world?

"If the fire dew is lost, life will be lost in the bubble world. Isn't it possible that the residents who were supposed to be reincarnated will be reborn in another world?"
...
"Why don't you bring back the fire dew? They have their lives too."

"What do you mean? Their life ends when they die. It's just a matter of starting a new life in a new world. It's just a different person with the same origin."
...
"Returning fire dew to the bubble world is a foolish act that erases life. Bubbles will eventually disappear. Throwing life into it is like returning a fish that has finally reached the sea to the land again. It may be different from your world's beliefs, but that's the principle of the Silver sea."

Instead of denying me, Ottorlou said gently.

"It's a very lucky thing for the life that fire dew crosses the world. It's a proof that they were blessed by this sea."

If the bubble world will surely perish, then there is certainly a point.

-WN Chapter 502.​

Returning Fire Dew yo the bubble world erases life because you're just sending them back to be permanently destroyed from constant fighting. It is also useless because the Fire dew will just leak out again like attempting to fetch and keep water inside a basket

I see. In other words, fire dew is the root on earth. The fire dew circulates in this fundamental Law Garden --that is, the root (Source) reincarnates because of the order of the four gods of the tree.

Anos doesn't say "equivalent to the term source" he literally means Fire Dew is the Source on Earth. Currently alive= source. Dead, Reincarnating, not yet born, your source is the Fire Dew in the Azure Sky (I've also sent this before)

 

[Tatsumi504]

Scan dump time!!!! Think I'll be doing this every time i come across relevant stuff since i have to reread entire arcs again for 1 CRT

He looked at my face, saw my magic, and he was speechless.
It was a long, very long silence.
"........................... ...Your Majesty ......"
Finally, he said just that.
There was no way he could have mistaken it.
There was Farris Noin, a rare master of creative art who scattered in the sky of destruction 2,000 years ago.

"How good is your memory?"
I asked, and he nodded with a calm expression on his face.
"As long as you use the 'reincarnation' <silica>, the shine may never fade away, even if it washes up in the ocean outside."
Reincarnation Silica is a limited magic, and cannot be used outside the world of Militia.
However, as long as it is activated in the world of Militia, it is effective even if its roots flow to the small world outside.
Since the Militia world is the 0th layer, the shallowest world, its order and magical laws pervade all the smaller worlds below it.
Although it is a limited magic when activated, a weak magical law is probably sufficient for reincarnation in another world.

What leaks out of bubble worlds? Fire Dew!!!!!
Anos subordinate from the mythical age Faris Noin reincarnated inside a deep world in the silver sea because his fire dew flowed outside the militia world. What is <silica> cast on? The source. What leaks out of the bubble world? Fire Dew does. If the source isn't Fire Dew, how does a person then reincarnate from fire dew? I leave that to the opposition to answer

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Bump

 

[Theglassman12]

Stop trying to push that Downgrade thread here plank and Glassman never argued based on fire dew Arguments. Even plank said he is only going based on profile description not based on this thread read his reply.

@EldemadeDityjon Or maybe we don't buy your arguments on the fire dew being the same as the source as it's you making baseless assumptions with no proof. Besides the downgrade has been accepted to being type 3 so ignoring it when it's going against this thread would be silly.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@EldemadeDityjon Or maybe we don't buy your arguments on the fire dew being the same as the source as it's you making baseless assumptions with no proof. Besides the downgrade has been accepted to being type 3 so ignoring it when it's going against this thread would be silly.

You being Ignorant is not my problem. I will let the other staff to evaluate. Also it sounds like you Desperately planned that type 3 Downgrade thread? Well it doesn't matter anyway. I stopped caring about that. Tatsumi already Clarified fire dew = Source so don't show your ignorance again and again on scans that we posted.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/maou-gakuin-source-root-type-1-concept-round-2.150801/post-5572090

Show me one scan it's saying fire dew and root are different.

 

[Theglassman12]

@EldemadeDityjon

fire dew is the root on earth

Not the same as the concept of an individual, plus nothing about the source for an individual is stated to cross to other worlds and give all life on the worlds existence. So you're comparing apples to oranges.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@EldemadeDityjon



Not the same as the concept of an individual, plus nothing about the source for an individual is stated to cross to other worlds and give all life on the worlds existence. So you're comparing apples to oranges.

A staff cutting lines just so desperately trying to prove his point is crazy. Here clear cut stated as it's the source. You didn't proved anything with that cutted lines.

I see. In other words, fire dew is the root on earth. The fire dew circulates in this fundamental Law Garden --that is, the root (Source) reincarnates because of the order of the four gods of the tree.

Yeah don't bother replying with another one of your cut lines. I will rather wait for staff who are willing to evaluate the thread with unbiased opinion instead of cutting lines just so they can make headcanons which doesn't exists in the verse. Really disappointed.

Lmao funny it's been Again confirmed here. Yeah definitely I will ignore your opinion.

"If the fire dew is lost, life will be lost in the bubble world. Isn't it possible that the residents who were supposed to be reincarnated will be reborn in another world?"
...
"Why don't you bring back the fire dew? They have their lives too."

"What do you mean? Their life ends when they die. It's just a matter of starting a new life in a new world. It's just a different person with the same origin."
...
"Returning fire dew to the bubble world is a foolish act that erases life. Bubbles will eventually disappear. Throwing life into it is like returning a fish that has finally reached the sea to the land again. It may be different from your world's beliefs, but that's the principle of the Silver sea."

Instead of denying me, Ottorlou said gently.

"It's a very lucky thing for the life that fire dew crosses the world. It's a proof that they were blessed by this sea."

If the bubble world will surely perish, then there is certainly a point.

 

[Theglassman12]

This doesn't remotely prove the fire dew and the source of an individual person are the exact same thing. Not only that but nothing about the source is remotely implied to have an effect on all of reality, nor does it predate reality or can exist when reality ceases to exist.

 

[Tatsumi504]

This doesn't remotely prove the fire dew and the source of an individual person are the exact same thing. Not only that but nothing about the source is remotely implied to have an effect on all of reality, nor does it predate reality or can exist when reality ceases to exist.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/maou-gakuin-source-root-type-1-concept-round-2.150801/post-5572090

https://vsbattles.com/threads/maou-gakuin-source-root-type-1-concept-round-2.150801/post-5572197

Take your ass opinion and gtfo my thread, you're either blind, incapable of simple understanding or have such a myopic outlook on something you can only ever see yourself as right

 

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