If source were to be type 1, all humans or everyone with a source would be under the influence of a single one. i.e. there will be a single source that is governing all other source or humans in the verse, not like one source for each person as those are specific concepts, which will be CM type 3.
Pein this refutation only works if what the source governs is all humanity as opposed to individual existence.
The reality the source governs is an individual's existence, the reality it participates in is that same individual's existence not all of humanity.
When I asked about this I specifically mentioned it governing a single object and the reply I got went beyond what I was expecting saying that "Scale" and "Range" of the concept doesn't matter.
The example you gave me for this was the concept of darkness.
Taking this your example, this concept will govern darkness be it planet wide even darkness in the whole universe. This concept is still governing something specific just like the source governs an individual's existence. The issue is there's actually some kind of bias in your mind that makes the concept of darkness seem not specific because of how large "darkness" is in scale as opposed to one individual. This will apply all the same to the concept of light, specific colors, water, air etc.
Even going by the definition of type 3 concepts
Lesser Fundamental Concepts: Concepts that don't meet the same standards as Type 1 or Type 2, such as personal concepts that continue to govern the object in question, merely on a more specific scale, or concepts whose nature is not elaborated upon. Case-by-case specifications and explanations are necessary for such concepts and examples, and they are likely not going to meet the same standards for abilities such as High-Godly regeneration that other concepts may. Conceptual manipulation of this type can be resisted by those who resist sufficiently similar abilities, even if the exact mechanics may differ.
The page doesn't say "personal concepts can only be type 3", it says that if they don't meet the criteria in type 1/2 and their nature isn't elaborated upon, then they should be classified as type 3. In the case of the source, forget about meeting the standard for type 2, it meets the criteria for type 1. It's nature is also elaborated upon.
The source governs an individual existence and is independent of it. It's not affected by any change to that existence, isn't erased by the erasure of that existence.
Split the source will split the body mind and soul and fusing the source back together fuses all 3 as well with no need to perform the action on the other 3.
The biggest supporting factor here is that the source is equivalent to Fire Dew. It predates universal reality and is unaffected by the destruction of universal reality.
@Dereck03 Ok so Deonment is just wrong then. If you're claiming you can manipulate a concept that can be more than one type then it's one or the other, you can't pick both. I don't need to make a standard change when type 3 concepts literally refer to as personal concepts, plus governing a specific individual or specific scale, as stated in the profile for concept hax, is not the same as a concept that governs reality.
Bruh, I'm now officially convinced you are incapable of entertaining any opinion that isn't alligned with your own even going as far as to deny what's stated in the ability description
Lesser Fundamental Concepts: Concepts that don't meet the same standards as Type 1 or Type 2, such as personal concepts that continue to govern the object in question, merely on a more specific scale, or concepts whose nature is not elaborated upon. Case-by-case specifications and explanations are necessary for such concepts and examples, and they are likely not going to meet the same standards for abilities such as High-Godly regeneration that other concepts may. Conceptual manipulation of this type can be resisted by those who resist sufficiently similar abilities, even if the exact mechanics may differ.
The description doesn't say all personal concepts are type 3, it says concepts that don't qualify as type 1/2 or whose nature isn't elaborated. It then goes on to give personal concepts as an example.
In other words, personal concepts that don't qualify as type 1 or 2 are type 3, if a personal concept qualifies as type 1 or 2 then it is either of those types. If you disagree with this then go review the conceptual manipulation page and change it to say personal concepts can only ever be type 3.
For it to be type 2 it has to govern reality, as stated in the page for type 2 concepts.
I swear you're full of it. At this point you're just being dishonest. The page doesn't say it has to govern reality, it only has to govern the reality it participates in. The reality the source participates in is a person's existence.
Nothing about it says it governs life across space-time, what scan remotely says that?
Maybe the fact that source destruction erases all future incarnations of a person proven by the fact that they experience the death of all those incarnations combined when the source is destroyed.
Also proven by the fact that <Gavuel> (Source self destruction) releases an infinite amount of magic power which a random person doesn't have. Where does the infinite magic come from then? It's coming from the magic power of all infinite incarnations.
By the way both of these things are in the OP which you would know about if you even bothered to read it
