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Patchouli's current scaling
At the moment, Patchouli's profile states that she's a glass-cannon character, where she's physically 8-B (best tier btw fight me over this) but 2-C with Magic. The reasoning being that magicians are stated lore-wise to be physically weaker (which is literally only stated like once in lore and is obviously bullshit that gets contradicted a lot), and that she relied on magic so much that she's gotten physically weak.
The issue with this
It's only been mentioned once in the entire franchise that Patchouli is physically weak, but not only can she obviously tank and physically harm the high tiers of the verse, it was never stated how weak she actually is, so it's odd to scale her to the low tiers.
Feats of her being on the same level as the high tiers
Unsurprisingly, I'll be using the same arguments that I've used in my Alice upgrade thread, that being that Patchouli is also a playable character in three Touhou fighting games, where the cast fight more physically, and Patchouli has a couple moves where she attacks with her body or physically strikes her opponent.
In Immaterial and Missing Power, Patchouli gets into a fight with a serious Youmu, who we currently classify as 2-C, and during the events of Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, she also fights Tenshi, who caused the incident that kickstarted the events of the game because she wanted to pick a fight with the residents of Gensokyo.
Conclusion
There's no reason to make Patchouli physically on par with the fodder of the verse, as while it's stated that magicians, Patchouli especially, are stated to be weak, we don't know how weak they actually are compared to the rest of the verse's cast, and as we're shown in IaMP and SWR Patchouli can tank and dish out against some of the high tiers of the verse. I propose that Patchouli becomes straight-up 2-C because of what I've provided in my argument.
Patchouli's current scaling
At the moment, Patchouli's profile states that she's a glass-cannon character, where she's physically 8-B (best tier btw fight me over this) but 2-C with Magic. The reasoning being that magicians are stated lore-wise to be physically weaker (which is literally only stated like once in lore and is obviously bullshit that gets contradicted a lot), and that she relied on magic so much that she's gotten physically weak.
The issue with this
It's only been mentioned once in the entire franchise that Patchouli is physically weak, but not only can she obviously tank and physically harm the high tiers of the verse, it was never stated how weak she actually is, so it's odd to scale her to the low tiers.
Feats of her being on the same level as the high tiers
Unsurprisingly, I'll be using the same arguments that I've used in my Alice upgrade thread, that being that Patchouli is also a playable character in three Touhou fighting games, where the cast fight more physically, and Patchouli has a couple moves where she attacks with her body or physically strikes her opponent.
In Immaterial and Missing Power, Patchouli gets into a fight with a serious Youmu, who we currently classify as 2-C, and during the events of Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, she also fights Tenshi, who caused the incident that kickstarted the events of the game because she wanted to pick a fight with the residents of Gensokyo.
Conclusion
There's no reason to make Patchouli physically on par with the fodder of the verse, as while it's stated that magicians, Patchouli especially, are stated to be weak, we don't know how weak they actually are compared to the rest of the verse's cast, and as we're shown in IaMP and SWR Patchouli can tank and dish out against some of the high tiers of the verse. I propose that Patchouli becomes straight-up 2-C because of what I've provided in my argument.
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