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Well, it is a valid power for Medaka and Iihiko, but it obviously cannot be activated during versus threads.
 
So, what specifically do you think you be changed in the Medaka Box profiles, and is anybody willing to handle it?
 
I think the 2-C ratings are unfounded. And we definitely shouldn't give the characters the ability to beat stronger people via being the protagonist.
 
Okay, but that seemed to be the entire point of Iihiko. He was just a physical brute of limited strength, but still killed Najimi with a rubber band, simply due to having the protagonist ability to an extreme degree.

I actually wrote a fanfiction story long ago in which the main villain had the same power.
 
ajimu "a character with no power level" lul ajimu confirmed for human level

I agree that ajimu is only human level with saitama level wank and is just a nomal school girl that makes V signs and troll faces

she also totally didnt exist in a void of nothing waiting for something to exist besides her (casual 5D) and then casually tank the big bang (3D)

https://i.imgur.com/sYQOq1j.jpg

definitely only looks like a star level to me especially with that create a universe skill


PS: ajimu is a parody character not a gag character they are two different things

arale is a gag character (farting to the moon/breaking manga panels)

ajimu is a parody character


World Globe Tour (Õ£░þÉâõ©ÇÕæ¿Õ╝¥õ©©µùàÞíî, W─ürudo Gurōbu Tsu─ü): Unlimited range skill.[155]

Baby Planet (þöƒÒü¥ÒéîÒüƒÒüªÒü«Õ«çÕ«Ö, Beib─½ Puranetto): Create a universe skill.[147]

Infunity Quest (þäíõ║║ÚÇá, Infuniti Kuesuto): Control the infinite skill.[147]

Spec Over (ÚüÄÞ║½µºÿÒüöÒüúÒüô, Supekku ōb─ü): Become God skill.[147]

Life Zero (þäíÕè╣Þäø, Raifu Zero): Ajimu can nullify any skill she desires, even Medaka's The End.

Hundred Gauntlets (µëïÒü«Òü▓ÒéëÕ¡ÁÒüù, Handoreddo Gantoretto): A skill that reverses causality.[93] Kumagawa claims that Ajimu's powers were god-like, and states that his Minus, All Fiction, was born from what she gave him.

Alibi Block (Þàæþ¢¬Þ¿╝µÿÄ, Aribai Burokku): Described as a gentle skill by Ajimu, she can appear wherever and whenever she wants, including physical locations such as: in a locked room, in space, in heaven, or in hell, as well as metaphysical places such as: inside a dream, inside a heart, or even inside people.

Manual Memory (µ¿íþ»äÞ¿ÿµåÂ, Manyuaru Memori): Know every answer skill.[147]

Humor Contrast (þäíµºÿÒü¬Þâîµ»öÒü╣, Yümoa Kontorasuto): Be stronger than the enemy skill.[147]

Auto Fumble (Õñ▒µàïÕñ▒µòù, ōto Fanburu): Make no mistakes skill.[147]

Time Bunny (µÖéµäƒõ¢£þö¿, Taimu Ban─½): Manipulate time skill.[147]

(µ¼íÕàâÕûëµ×£, Hasuk─½ Boisu Dimenshon): Cross dimensions skill.[147]

Beginner's Hard Luck (ÒüƒÒü®ÒüƒÒü®ÒüùÒüäµï│, Bigin─üzu H─üdo Rakku): Make defense impossible skill.[110]

Plot Fight (þƒÑÞ¡ÿÒü«µû╣ÕÉæ, Purotto Faito): Predict the opponent's moves skill.[110]

Miss Anger Stand (ÕÑçµâ│µåñµà¿, Misu Ang─ü Sutando): Impossible to predict hit skill.[110]

Service Ace (ÕàêÕç║ÒüùÒüÿÒéâÒéôÒüæÒéô, S─übisu ēsu): First move skill.[110]

My Inflation (Ú½¬Õ▒òÚÇöõ©è, Mai Infurēshon): The stronger the enemy is, the stronger the user is skill.[110]

Exciting Memory (õ║║þöƒþÁîÚ¿ôµ«Á, Ekisaitingu Memor─½): Use all previous opponent's techniques skill.[110]

Lost Password (Õ©░ÞÀ»µÂêÕñ▒, Rosuto Pasuw─üdo): Turn enemy back to level one skill.[147] This is noted to be a cruel skill.[151]

Next Honest (µ£ëÞ¿ÇÕ«ƒþÅ¥, Nekusuto Onesuto): Words become reality skill.[147]

Zero Sum Real (Õ¡ÿõ║í, Zero Samu Riaru): Power over life and death skill.[147]

Initialize History (µ¡┤ÕÅ▓þÜäÒüïÒü¬ÒéèÚüòÒüä, Inisharaizu Hisutor─½): Change history skill.[147]

Deathst Moment (Õì│Þªû, Desuto Mōmento): If you are seen they die skill.[147]

Every Time Slip Everyday Dream (µÖéþ│╗ÕêùÕ┤®ÕúèÚüôõ©¡Þåصáùµ»ø, Eburi Taimu Surippu Eburi Dei Dor─½mu): Time travel skill.[147]

Metastasis From Head To Tail (Õà¿Þ║½Õà¿Ú£èÒü½Þ╗óþº╗, Metasutashisu Furomu Heddo Tu Teiru): Take over bodies skill.[147]


Complete Jungle (Õà¿ÞíÇÕà¿Þâ¢, Konpur─½to Janguru): All of creation skill.[147]


Missile To Pause (Þ║½ÒüÿÒéìÒüÄÒü▓Òü¿Òüñ, Misuru Tu Pōzu): Stopping movement skill.[110]


Archery Picking (Õ╝ôþƒóÒü½Úü©Òü░ÒéîÒüùþÁîÚ¿ôÞÇàÚüö, ─üchar─½ Pikkingu): Steal others' experience points skill.

A Lot Of Hand (ÕñܵëïÕñܵºÿ, A Rotto Obu Hando): Slashing simultaneous omni-directional skill.

Hard Full Count (õ©ëÕ║ªþø«Òü«µÂêÞ笵úä, H─üdo Furu Kaunto): Sealing the opponent's skills after three hits skill.[105]

Critical Kit (µé¬ÕîûÕéÀ, Kuritikaru Kitto): Transforming scrapes to fatal wounds skill.[105]

One's Necro (õ©ÇÕêÇÚ¬©, Wanzu Nekuro): Removing openings skill.[105]

Critical Five (õ║öµäƒµÇº, Kuritikaru Faibu): Stealing the opponent's senses skill.[110]

Ad-Balloon Attack (õ©Çµû╣þÜäÒü¬õ©ÇµÆâ, Ado Barün Atakku): Impossible to counterattack skill.[110]

Noble (µ¡»µôªþäíÒüù, Nōburu): Impossible to miss skill.[110]

Illegal (þªüÒüÿµëï, Ir─½garu): Technique sealing skill.[110]

Route Selection (ÞÂ│ÒüùÒüÆÒüÅÚÇÜÒüå, Rüto Serekushon): Instant movement skill.[110]

I Can Cancel (þºüÒüáÒüæÒü»Õ¥àÒüúÒüƒÒüéÒéè, Ai Kyan Kyanseru): Cancel an attack that has happened before skill.[110] This skill is noted to be particularly unfair.[120]

Strong Story (Õ╝ÀÒüäÞ¬×Òéèµëï, Sutorongu Sutōr─½): Strength governing skill.[122]

My Speed (Þ笵êæÚǃÕ║ª, Mai Supido): Speed governing skill.[122]

Boneless Farm (Õïòþë®Òü«ÒüäÒü¬ÒüäÞ¥▓Õá┤, Bonresu F─ümu): Remove bones skill.

Pray Have Hope (þÁµ£øÒüïÒéëÞç│Òéïþùà, Pure Habu Hōpu): Despair skill.

Friendly Neighbor Green (ÚÜúÒü«ÞèØÒü¬ÒüìÒüúÒüªµ£¼Õ¢ôÒü½ÚØÆÒüä, Furendor─½ Neib─ü Gur─½n): Jealousy skill.

Seven Doubt (õ©âÕ║ªÕ░ïÒü¡Òüªõ║║ÒéÆõ┐íÒüÿÒéì, Sebun Dauto): Doubt skill.

Triple Terrible (µüÉÒéïÒü╣ÒüìÕñºõ║║Úüö, Toripuru Teriburu): Fear skill.[128]

Past Promise (µÇØÒüäÚüòÒüä, Pasuto Puromisu): Fabricate a memory skill.

Very Hungry (Þà╣õ©ÇÕîü, Ber─½ Hangur─½): Feeling of hunger skill.[128]

Crystal Edge (Õ½îÕë▓ÞÇà, Kurisutaru Ejji): Become hated by everyone skill.

Own Goal (Þ笵«║Õà©, Oun Gōru): Instigate suicide skill.[128]

Old Cold Whip (ÞÇüõ¢ôÒü½þäíþƒÑµëôÒüñ, ōrudo Kōrudo Wippu): Deprive of knowledge skill.[128]

Qualia Quality (µâ│õ¢£Òü«Þ│¬, Kuoria Kuoriti): Make consciousness nonexistent skill.[128]

Humachine Error (µÇØÞÇâÕü£µ¡óµÇºÕòÅÚíî, Hyümashin Er─ü): Unable to think skill.

Dislike (µäøÚÇåÞ╗ó, Disuraiku): Hate what you like skill.[128] This skill is noted to be "too much of a demon", likely because of its cruel nature.[132]

Lonely Wedding Party (µ¡╗Òü¼Òü¿ÒüìÒü»õ©Çõ║║, þöƒÒüìÒéïÒü¿ÒüìÒééõ©Çõ║║, Ronr─½ Uedingu P─üt─½): Loneliness skill.[128]

Custom Nine (µé¬þÖûõ╣ØÕ╣┤, Kasutamu Nain): Grant a bad habit skill.[128]

Out Of Simulation (µâ│Õ«ÜÒü«ÞÂúÕæ│, Auto Obu Shumirēshon): Grant bad taste skill.[128]

Shining Shining (þÖ¢µùÑÒü«õ©ïÒü½Õæ¿þƒÑÒü«õ║ïÕ«ƒ, Shainingu Shainingu): Everything is embarrassing skill.[128]

Transport Plan (Õæ¢õ╗ñÚàìÚüöõ║║, Toransupōto Puran): Control fate skill.[147]

Portable Soul (ÕÉ©Ú¡éµñìþë®, Pōtaburu Souru): Absorb souls skill.[147]

Professional Hibit (þü½ÕÖ¿ÕÄ│þªü, Purofesshonaru Hibitto): Bullet nullifier skill.[155]

Most Love (µäøÒü«ÕñºµÄî, Mosuto Rabu): Transferring damage to one's loved ones skill.[105]

Door To Door (ÕÅúÕî║Úûô, Doa To Doa): An ability which allows Ajimu to "travel through time" by bringing herself and others into the dream world where they appear at different stages in their lives.

Parasite Seeing (µ¼▓ÞªûÕèø, Parasaito Sh─½ingu): Ajimu had an enhanced vision that granted her the ability to see what others saw through their own eyes. This also allowed her to see how others view the world and understand how they think.


Exhibition Match (ÚûôÚüòÒüäÒü¬Òüŵö¥þü½, Ekishibijon Macchi): Fire governing skill.[122]

Water Body Slam (µ░┤Þéóõ¢ô, Wōt─ü Bodi Suramu): Water governing skill.[122]

Bolt Leg (ÕìâÞäÜõ©çÚøÀ, Boruto Reggu): Lightning governing skill.[122]

Window Shocking (Úó¿Òü«ÕÉ╣ÒüÅÒü¥Òü¥, Uindou Shokkingu): Wind governing skill.[122]

Heaven Is Not Heaven (µÑ¡Þ蝹ѢµâàÕ£ƒ, Hevun Izu Notto Hevun): Earth governing skill.[122]

Flower Bad (õ║║þöƒÞè▒ÚÇåþÉå, Furaw─ü Baddo): Flower governing skill.[122]

Dark Elbow (ÚùçÕñ£Òü½ÞéÿÚëäþá▓, D─üku Erubō): Darkness governing skill.[122]

Sabotage Beam (µÇáÒéïÒü«Õàë, Sabot─üju B─½mu): Light governing skill.[122]

Spring Grocery (µÿÑÒü«Úúƒþ¢¬, Supuringu Gurossar─½): Spring governing skill.[122]

Noisy Summer Beetle (ÕñÅÒü«ÞÖ½µ░ÀÒéÆþ¼æÒüå, Noij─½ Sam─ü B─½toru): Summer governing skill.[122]

Lonely Autumn (þºïÒü«þï¼Õûä, Ronr─½ ōtamu): Autumn governing skill.[122]

Winter Generalist (Õå¼Òü«Þä│µ╝┐Þ╗ì, Uint─ü Jenerarisuto): Winter governing skill.[122]

Time Out (µÖéÚûôõ¢ô, Taimu Auto) : Night governing skill.[122]

Hospital Genome (þû¥µéúÞ¡À, Hosupitaru Genomu): Illness governing skill.[122]

Ground Sound (ÕûëÚƒ┐µø▓õ©ìÕ╣©ÕÆîÚƒ│, Guraundo Saundo): Sound governing skill.[122]

Nitrogen Breath (þ¬Æµü»µ¡╗, Nitorogen Buresu): Nitrogen governing skill.[122]

Sensational Hair (þá┤Õñ®ÞìÆÒü¬Ú½«Õ×ï, Sensēshonaru Hea): Weather governing skill.[122]

Hard Luck Store (Úá¡Þû¼þë®, H─üdo Rakku Sutoa): Poison governing skill.[122]

Dry Sauna (µ©®µ╣┐ÕÅúÞè▒, Dorai Sauna): Humidity governing skill.[122]

Gravito (Þ║»ÚçìÕèø, Gurabito): Gravity governing skill.[122]

Grip Chaos (Õñºµèèõ╣▒, Gurippu Kaosu): Wave governing skill.[122]

Maniac Curtain (õ║║ÚûôÒü«þ¥¢Þíú, Maniakku K─ütan): Cloth governing skill.[122]

Emotional Turning (Õ▒êµèÿÒüùÒüƒµäøµâà, Emōshonaru T─üningu): Reflection governing skill.[122]

Shadow Step (Õ¢▒Þ©ÅÒü┐, Shadou Suteppu): Shadow governing skill.[122]

Cinderella Syndrome (Úàìõ©ïµî»ÒéèÒü«Õ¿ÿ, Shinderera Shindorōmu): Ash governing skill.[122]

Mist Sister (Ú£ºÚ£ºÕª╣ or Ú£ºÒÇàÕª╣, Misuto Shisut─ü): Fog governing skill.[122]

Painter Contest (Þè©ÞíôÕ«ÂÒü«Õ»®þ¥Äþ£╝, Peint─ü Kontesuto): Picture governing skill.[122]

Wallpaper (þ┤░Þâ×Õúü, Wōrupēp─ü): Barrier governing skill.[122]

Alcohol Sand (õ©ëÒÇàÚºåÕïò, Arukōru Sando): Sand governing skill.[122]

Free For Hole (ÞÉ¢Ú¢óþ®┤, Fur─½ Fōru Hōru): Hole governing skill.[122]

Monster Red (Þíǵ£¬Ú¡ìÚ¡Ä, Monsut─ü Reddo): Blood governing skill.[122]

Muscle Collection (Õà¼Õïƒþ¡ï, Massuru Korekushon): Germ governing skill.[122]

Magnet Streamer (ÕÅûÒüúµëïÒüèÒüìÒü«þÂ▓, Magunetto Sutor─½m─ü): Magnet governing skill.[122]

Golden Cloud (Úø▓Òü«õ©èÒü«µÁ«ÚüèÕ▒ñ, Gōruden Kuraudo): Gold governing skill.[122]

Silver Opinion (õ║îþò¬µëïÒéÆÕɃÒüÿÒéï, Shirub─ü Opinion): Silver governing skill.[122]

Emergence Copper (ÕÖ¿Òü«õ©¡Òü«Þâ┤õ¢ôþØÇÚÖ©, Em─üjensu Kopp─ü): Copper governing skill.[122]

Death To Sky (þá┤ÕúèÞ║½þ®║, Desu to Sukai): Sky governing skill.[122]

Sky True (þ£ƒþ®║þÖç, Sukai Turu): Vacuum governing skill.[122]

Sun Sloshing (µîçÕñûþÀÜ, San Surosshingu): Sun governing skill.[122]

Polardigm Shift (þø«Õì░ÒüÜÒéëÒüù, Poradaimu Shifuto): Polaris governing skill.[122]

Mother Mars Ship (Õ«çÕ«Öµêªþü½µÿƒÕÅÀ, Maz─üzu M─üzu Shippu): Mars governing skill.[122]

Nine Pluto (þÄïÕ║ºÕѬÚéä, Nain Purüto): Pluto governing skill.[122]

Meteor Neck (ÚÜòÕÆ│ÞÉ¢õ©ï, Meteo Nekku): Meteor governing skill.[122]

My Sea Chip (ÕñºµÁÀÒéÆþëçµëïÒüºÕí×ÒüÉ, Mai Sh─½ Chippu): Sea governing skill.[122]

Swamp Girl (µ▓╝ÕÑ│, Suwanpu G─üru): Swamp governing skill.[122]

Riverse (Þ║½ÕÀص¡╗, Rib─üsu): River governing skill.[122]

Emperor Stone (þƒ│ÞíÇÕ©Ø, Enpar─ü Sutōn): Stone governing skill.[122]

Hang Up Jewel (µè▒þƒ│þ«▒, Hangu Appu Jueru): Gem governing skill.[122] It is noted that this skill has a more limited application than the stone governing skill.[123]

Ouroboros Connect (µäÅÕñûÒü¬ÚÇúÚÄû, Uroborosu Konekuto): Calamity governing skill.[122]

Angle Of Opera (ÚøÂÞÀØÚøóÞªûÕ░äÕèç, Anguru Obu Opera): Angle governing skill.[122] It is noted that if an attack is delivered at point-blank range, the angle will be zero degrees.[124]

Acht Acht Dessin (þÖ║þá┤Õà¡Úç쵡╗, Ahato Ahato Dessan): Explosion governing skill.[122]

Skin Forest (õ║║ÞéîÒü«µ©®ÒééÒéè, Sukin Fōresuto): Forest governing skill.[122]

Average Crying Night (Õà½ÕìüÕà½Õñ£Òü«µ│úÒüìÒü½ÒüùÒééÒüéÒéëÒüÜ, Aberēji Kuraingu Naito): Constellation governing skill.[122]

Treasure Tasting (Õæ│þÖ║ÞªïÒü«Þ▓íÕ«Ø, Torej─ü Teisutingu): Flavor governing skill.[122]

Key World (õ©ûþòîÒü«ÚìÁ, K─½ W─ürudo): Key governing skill.[122]

Hyper String Theory (ÞÂàÞêîÕ╝ªþÉåÞ½û, Haip─ü Sutoringu Seor─½): Thread governing skill.[122]

North Breath (ÕîùÚó¿Òü«ÕÉ╣Òüìµø┐Òüê, Nōsu Buresu): Voice governing skill.[122]

Drink Range (ÕÜÑÞÀØÚøóµüïµäø, Dorinku Renji): Distance governing skill.[122]

Overreaction (µïÆþÁÂþè»Þä│, ōb─üriakushon): Chemical reaction governing skill.[122]

Battle Smell (Þè│ÒüùÒüäõ©íµï│, Batoru Sumeru): Scent governing skill.[122]

Deep Sink (µÀ▒µÀÁÒüºµ░┤µ││Õñºõ╝Ü, D─½pu Shinku): Depth governing skill.[122]

Nutrino Compliance (Õæ│ÞªÜÞ¬ìþë®õ¢ô, Nyütorino Konpuraiansu): Nutrition governing skill.[122]

Stereogram (õ║îÚçìÞªûþé╣, Sutereoguramu): Roughness governing skill.[122]

Deathtrian Deck (µ¡╗Òü«µ¡®Úüôµ®ï, Desutorian Dekki): Path governing skill.[122]

Reading Magic (õ╗ûµäøÒü¬ÒüäÞ¬¡Òü┐Þü×ÒüïÒüø, R─½dingu Majikku): Incantation governing skill.[122]

Animal User (þø▓Õ¥ôõ¢┐Òüä, Animaru Yüz─ü): Animal governing skill.[122]

Mirror Effect (Ú¡öµëïÚÅí, Mir─ü Efekuto): Mirror governing skill.[122]

Strong Story (Õ╝ÀÒüäÞ¬×Òéèµëï, Sutorongu Sutōr─½): Strength governing skill.[122]

Delicate Delete (Õ╝▒Òü䵫║Òüùµëï, Derikēto Der─½to): Weakness governing skill.[122]

My Speed (Þ笵êæÚǃÕ║ª, Mai Supido): Speed governing skill.[122]

Active Talk (µ┤╗ÞêîµÇº, Akutibu Tōku): Activity governing skill.[122]

Readability (Þ¬¡Þêî, R─½dabiriti): Letter governing skill.[122]

Most Impact (Õ┐âÞ¿╝Þå¿Õñº, Mosuto Inpakuto): Size governing skill.[122]

Tektite (þíØÕ¡Éõ¢ô, Tekutaito): Glass governing skill.[122]

Nearby See-Through (ÞªïÒüêÒü¬ÒüÅÒüªÒééÒüØÒü░Òü½ÒüäÒéï, Niabai Sh─½surü): Spirit governing skill.[122]

Pendulum Heart (µÅ║ÒéîÕïòÒüÅÕ┐â, Penjuramu H─üto): Vibration governing skill.[122]

Easy Chorus (Õì│ÞêêÕÉêÕö▒, ─½j─½ Kōrasu): Song governing skill.[122]

Rainbow Lamp (þçêÞÖ╣Õ¢®, Reinbō Ranpu): Color governing skill.[122]

Play Smoke (ÚüèþàÖ, Purei Sumōku): Smoke governing skill.[122]

Number Foot (Õ┐âÒü«ÞÂ│Òüùþ«ù, Nanb─ü Futto): Number governing skill.[122]

Death Voice Navigation (ÕÆåÕô«Úƒ│þù┤, Desu Boisu Nabigēshon): Direction governing skill.[122]

Selfish Requester (Õø░ÒüúÒüªÒü¬ÒüÅÒüªÒééþÑ×Úá╝Òü┐, Serufisshu Rikuesut─ü): Prayer governing skill.[122]

Fantasy Illusion (Õ╣╗Òü«Õ╣╗ÞªÜ, Fantaj─½ Iryüjon): Illusion governing skill.[122]

Wise Man Collection (Õô▓Õ¡ªÞÇàÒü«ÞÆÉÚøåþÖû, Waizu Man Korekushon): Knowledge governing skill.[122]

Magma Stone (þü½Õ▒▒Òü«µäÅÕ┐ù, Maguma Sutōn): Pyroclastic flow governing skill.[122] It is speculated that this skill is particularly flashy.[125]

Vinyl House Survival (Õ«Âõ©¡Òü«µé▓Õâì, Bin─½ru Hausu Sabaibaru): House governing skill.[122]

Big Name Dreamer (Õñóõ║║, Biggu Nēmu Dor─½m─ü): Dream governing skill.[122]

Choke Board (µü»µ¡óÒü¥Òéè, Chōku Bōdo): Wall governing skill.[122]

Secret Research (µâàÕá▒µô쵃╗, Sh─½kuretto Ris─üchi): Information governing skill.[122]

Window Gaze (þá┤þø«µ«║ÒüùÒü«þ¬ô, Uindou Geizu): Window governing skill.[122]

Blood Bus Stop (ÞíÇþ«íµê©Õ¢ôÒüª, Buraddo Basu Sutoppu): Entrance/Exit governing skill.[122]

Turning Point (þé╣þü½ÕÉ╣Úø¬, T─üningu Pointo): Point governing skill.[122]

Slow Line (µèòÚÖìþÀÜ, Surō Rain): Line governing skill.[122]

Neck Ring Hold (ÚªûÞ╝¬ÒéÆÒééÒüúÒüªÞ▓┤ÒüùÒü¿Òü¬ÒüÖ, Nekku Ringu Hōrudo): Ring governing skill.[122] It is noted that this skill has a cruel name.[126]

Gemini Impression (õ©ÇÕì░µÇºÕÅîþöƒÕàÉ, Jeminainpuresshon): Stamp governing skill.[122]

Unfixed Future (µ£¬µØÑÒü¬µüïÒüêÒéëÒéîÒéï, Anfikkusudo Fyüch─ü): Future governing skill.[122]

Magical Life (ÒüéÒéïÚ¡öµ│òÒü«õ©Çþöƒ, Majikaru Raifu): Magic governing skill.[122] The presence of this skill makes the necessity of the other magic skills questionable.[127]
 
Your first mistake was thinking that existing in a void is 5-D

Your second mistake was thinking listing all of Ajimu's known skills would achieve anything.

Your third mistake was expecting anyone to read them.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Your first mistake was thinking that existing in a void is 5-D
Your second mistake was thinking listing all of Ajimu's known skills would achieve anything.

Your third mistake was expecting anyone to read them.
I agree that existing above the concept of time and space and existing 3 trillion years before anything else is only a star level feat


ajimu was left unknown and some other characters were powerscaled to ajimu/medaka when medaka was confirmed multiversal or went to another universe


I do not understand where the issue is with these changes? you would have to be very biased to disagree
 
I kind of disagree with something from Part 4; more precisely with Kumagawa being able to spawn screws inside of people.

Even without pseudo time erase he is able move too fast for a human eye (his speed is maximum comparable with Medaka). With Jakugou he just threw screw at her without lookng at her with too fast enough speed (most likely via All-fiction) for her to notice that. She is a normal human after all even with her superability to manipulate the air.
 
Wuta420 said:
I agree that existing above the concept of time and space and existing 3 trillion years before anything else is only a star level feat
Technically speaking, nothing in there is an AP feat at all.

And you didn't specify "above the concept of time and space" in the comment I was responding to. You said "exist in a void of nothing waiting for something else to exist besides her". Which is not a 5-D feat.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, I think that Kumagawa was not the one who stated that All-Fiction can reduce all of reality to nothingness, and he did erase the actual concept of colour, so that seemed to back it up, but I suppose that you have a point.
Erasing the concept of colour also basically made everything colourless meaningless, according to the scans provided. The statement has the range to affect all of existence. It's primary usage is erasing. There was a statement regarding it being able to erase all of existence. I don't see a problem here. The only thing I question is whether or not All-Fiction is the same for everyone. Nonetheless, I really don't think that the manga being a parody should affect the legitimacy of a statement that has basis and is relevant.
 
I agree with Matthew. Also even if we take the fact that it was declared that it can destroy the "world", That makes us think that he is referring to the entire reality? It could also be just the planet Earth.

There are hundreds characters in the wiki that claim to be able to destroy the WORLD and not classifies them as universe level or multi-universe level, only planet level, and only happens if the declaration is shown to be consistent and not be hyperbole. The context of the statement is rather vague since there is nothing to indicate that it referred to the entire reality in that scene.


Also Kumagawa erase color even appears in the manga? I don't remember it. If it is that my memory is failing me someone would be so kind to pass a scan. If it is not appearing in the manga how do we know that the anime is canon?

Pd: Sorry for my bad english
 
I think I can give some input here:

the thing I could agree with is "at most Low 2-C" for All fiction users and that's supposing that All fiction's feat of erasing the concept of color is universal.

Why Low 2-C?

1) All fiction has been shown to erase time. It affects space-time.

2) If we assume that feat to be legit universal scale, we have universal range.

3) Universal range + Space-Time erasure = Low 2-C in my book.

As you see Im not using any statements.
 
Well, I am neutral regarding this, but if we return Najimi, Medaka, Kumagawa, and Hanten to unknown ratings, somebody still has to carry out the changes.
 
I think "Unknown, at most Low 2-C" is somewhat agreeable. And this is only for All Fiction.
 
I think "at most" is a stretch, considering Ajimu Najimi is heavily implied to be stronger than that. And Pachi, All-Fiction had 2-C range, not just Low 2-C range. That's why the profiles are currently 2-C.
 
I dont remember Kumagawa ever affecting 2 space continuums in their totality. Like, at all.

FEATS > STATEMENTS.
 
A few things:

1) Multi-Universal Range =/= 2-C power. If not every 40K Psyker would be 2-C.

2) Citation on All-Fiction erasing the concept of time?

3) Scans for All-Fiction erasing the concept of color?
 
So you are basing everything on that one statement? Noice.

Feats > Statements.

Kumagawa has only shown universal range at most.
 
Kumagawa erased the concept of colour in the anime series.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
A few things:
1) Multi-Universal Range =/= 2-C power. If not every 40K Psyker would be 2-C.

2) Citation on All-Fiction erasing the concept of time?

3) Scans for All-Fiction erasing the concept of color?
1) When it applies to a causality erasing power, it pretty much is.

2) I need to look for it, but iirc its done by Kumagawa during his first appearence.

3) go to 4:30
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
I thought we only accepted the manga as canon.
Iirc the events on that ova are referenced in the manga and it fits the continuity/is not contradicted by any future event.
 
But that occured in the anime series which is an adaptation of the manga.

Also, I've found the scene:

https://youtu.be/4pEavNhRd70?t=275

It is impressive, but I don't think it is Universal per say, or else every Concept Hax would be ranked as universal. It is not like Madoka where undoing or creating a concept rewrites the entire multiverse by consequence.
 
@Matt

As I said before, the "At most Low 2-C" would be only if we assume that he affected the whole universe with his ability given that he can also erase time with that same skill.

I don't agree with giving them 2-C rating based on "If I lose control of my ability, all of existence will be turned to nothing". If Kumagawa had any feat affecting 2 or more universes, then we'd be talking. As it stands know, there is no enough proof for 2-C.
 
Super Saiyan God Julian said:
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Not sure if this is the one @PaChi2.
That should do, I think.

The attack was instantaneous, he stated that he had used All Fiction.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
That just seems like minor Time Manipulation, localized Time Nullification and stuff.
Kumagawa erases things. He doesnt manipulate things. He erases.

Something like that guy in JoJo.
 
Well, I think that just placing Kumagawa, Najimi, Hanten, and Medaka at unknown again makes sense then.
 
Powerlisting is wanked.

Kumagawa never erased a concept. EE based on causality =/= EE based on concepts. He erased the electromagnetic spectrum at most. Theres no statement about concept stuff except for Medaka being able to help the combat between the concepts of Evil and Good
 
SchroKatze said:
Powerlisting is wanked.
Kumagawa never erased a concept. EE based on causality =/= EE based on concepts. He erased the electromagnetic spectrum at most. Theres no statement about concept stuff except for Medaka being able to help the combat between the concepts of Evil and Good
Neven erased a concept? So we are going to ignore the fact that he erased colors in OVA and Zenkichi's existence in the manga?
 
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